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The voter rebellion is on! Who should lead: Cruz or Trump? Both?
February 3, 2016 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/03/2016 1:57:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Q: Why are the voters rebelling?

A: The leftist progressives have been treading on our constitution and our liberty for at least the last 100 years and consequently we've suffered a long train of abuses and usurpations: The income tax (16th amendment), ending state sovereignty/concentrating power at the federal level (the 17th amendment), the Fed, heavy-handed/unconstitutional regulations, socialized retirement, socialized health care, restrictions on religious liberty, legalized abortion, federal mandated homosexual marriage with the heavy hand of the federal government enforcing it over the objections of the states and small business operators, the illegal alien invasion, the subversive Muslim invasion, the last 8 years of lawlessness under a Marxist/Islamofascist usurper, and a totally ineffective Republican opposition party that caves in or actually goes along with much of the above.

The tea party rebellion rose up several years ago to try to fight off the most recent Marxist assaults on our liberty and was quite effective at electing Republican majorities in the House and the Senate and in the majority of the states, but all to no avail.

The professional political elites entrenched within the Republican establishment co-opted our newly elected tea party representatives and or otherwise blunted their efforts and continued allowing the Marxist democrats to have their way over us. Even a rebellion against the Speaker of the House did no good. The new Speaker is as weak as the old Speaker.

And so the situation is ripe for rebellion. And we had a great Christian constitutional conservative tea party leader poised to lead it, Ted Cruz. And we were happy to jump on this young lion's bandwagon and push him through to triumph over the Marxist Democrats.

But the entrenched GOP establishment would have none of it and they (the GOPe and related Super PACS and their allies at FOX News and the cheap labor/open borders lobby) lined up behind the malleable open-borders Jeb Bush whom they could control and amassed a vast 100 million dollar plus warchest with promises of millions more to come. With the help of the "free" press, their anointed one was all but nominated. No way would a first term upstart and senate outcast like Ted Cruz overtake their anointed prince.

But then jumped in an older, long-maned alpha lion who's been around the block a couple times, roaring his way to the top of the hill. Trump's hard-nosed, no-nonsense, non-politically-correct, take no prisoners approach quickly grabbed the attention of the masses of fed-up voters. Trump single handedly slew the establishment's Prince Jeb, the media and the establishment itself and completely rewrote the rules of engagement.

His bold pronouncements that he would build a wall, enforce the law and deport them all was the exact right message at the exact right time and immediately vaulted him to front-runner status. And he added to that that he would end sanctuary cities, end anchor babies and even slap a moratorium on Muslim immigration. Again, exactly what the masses wanted to hear.

Now, many of us feel that these twin invasions (illegal aliens and Muslim infiltrators) were and are existential threats to our national sovereignty and were thrilled to have a mighty warrior like Trump who takes no guff from the media or the establishment to lead the charge.

The media, the establishment and even many so-called conservatives immediately objected with "you can't do that." It's unconstitutional and un-American. It's not who we are as Republicans.

That last one was especially telling. "It's not who we are as Republicans."

Ain't that the truth. And that's our entire problem in a nutshell.

Trump's huge rallies attracted thousands and thousands and his polling numbers soared for months. He was leading in most of the national polls and in most states.

But there was a growing counter-insurgency rumbling beneath the rebellion. Trump's history is strewn with contradictory and potentially fatal landmines. Too many of his past pronouncements and activities were on the NY liberal side and some are too much for Christian constitutional conservatives to bear or forgive. He swears that he's now a pro-life, pro-family Christian, but he has also stated that he's never asked for forgiveness. That's mighty hard for Christians to accept, but who are we to judge what's in a man's heart.

So here we are. The rebellion is roaring. The people are massing. Torches and pitchforks at the ready, but we are divided on who should lead it. And not just divided, we're scratching each others eyes out fighting about it. And as we do, the establishment's second choice (Gang of Eight traitor Rubio) is making inroads.

Personally, I'm all in for the Rebellion no matter who leads it. And I've often stated that Cruz is my favorite because of his constitutional conservative stance, but if Trump wins the nomination I'll enthusiastically support him in the general. Why? Because we cannot possibly allow yet another American-hating communist to follow Obama into the White House to complete the job of totally destroying our free Republic. End of that story. It's a no-brainer and my picture is in the dictionary under that term.

I absolutely love Trump's bold stand against illegal aliens and his call for a moratorium on Muslim immigration and believe it's even stronger than Cruz's past positions. I also love Trump's Reagan-like tax plan. Cruz's flat tax proposal is also interesting. I believe they both want to cut regulations, cut spending, cut government, return education to the states, etc, build a powerful military and fight against terrorism and make America great again.

Cruz is stronger on life and marriage and probably on choosing judges, but Trump says he's a pro-life, pro-family Christian but that's always a gamble anyway. Even Reagan and GWB blew a few judicial nominations.

The important thing here (IMHO) is that we save our nation. I'm not ready to rule out either of these candidates. Cruz is off to a great start and is up by one delegate over Trump and together they're double the GOPe's second choice. But it's a long hard grind ahead.

I say we should let the candidates fight it out and not be so eager to trash either one of our leading candidates. Digging up and publishing dirt and rumors on either is not doing our side any good and is potentially destructive in the long run.

And trashing our fellow FReepers is something that should never be done. This is going to be a long fight and we do not want to lose too many of our friends.

Meanwhile, let the rebellion gain strength. We're all in it together to save our nation. Please save your ammunition and your venom for the true enemy on the left.

Oh, I almost forgot. If you haven't already done so, please get your donation in. We're gonna need it to survive this fight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; FReeper Editorial; Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; elections; freepathon; jimrob; neither; rebellion; trump; uniparty; voter; voterrebellion
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To: DoughtyOne; jaydee770; Jim Robertson

Hey DoughtyOne, you have to admit that the pictures were sure scary. /s

IMHO, Glenn Beck, David Barton, and the Pac Master billionaire “David Mercer” with his “Cambridge Analytica”, and controlling stake in Breitbart.com; now that is scary.

Not to forget the mystery why in hell Mercer funded the startup of a Pro-Carly super-Pac.

I still say that we regular, normal humans have no concept of just what it means to be a billionaire. Think about it when musing over just what is going on.

How do you explain “global Warming”, Common Core, complete breakdown of the immigration laws, muslims shoved down our gullets and ........... why bother we are helpless.


301 posted on 02/05/2016 9:33:13 AM PST by UncleSam (Why must someone else always make the final decisions?)
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To: UncleSam

All I know is that some folks are deathly afraid of a guy that has adopted our policies, Has the CEO experience that will be necessary, and has the energy to see that they actually get acted on.


302 posted on 02/05/2016 9:38:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yeah and not to mention, gets up early, has his own plane, a family that has his back, has his own money and can call most anyone on his phone and they answer. He has been there and done that.

Trump has also sinned in ways that most men would welcome and has lived to tell about it and prepared to leave all that behind and use all his talents and resources in ways that benefit you, me and all our friends and families.


303 posted on 02/05/2016 9:55:37 AM PST by UncleSam (Why must someone else always make the final decisions?)
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To: DoughtyOne

“...Another whiff...”

Heh!


304 posted on 02/05/2016 9:59:03 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: UncleSam

I agree with most of that very much.

At the same time I think Trump made some big mistakes along the way.

I don’t see him as the second coming like others see their candidate.

I recognize his blemishes.

Wish others could do the same, and not just Trump’s crewz.


305 posted on 02/05/2016 10:02:37 AM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

bump!


306 posted on 02/05/2016 10:03:29 AM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t believe Trump will get into the weeds of budgets and let Congress pass CR’s. I think Cruz will gut many agencies if not eliminate them.

Someone needs to go after agency budgets where the bulk of the money goes to goverment employees in salary, benefits and “promises” of future defined benefit pensions which should be stopped.


307 posted on 02/05/2016 11:39:08 AM PST by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Eddie01
Donald Trump got cheated in Iowa. Cruz lied about Carson and ran a voter shaming campaign

Total BS. Do you believe everything the lying MSM report?

Are you saying 6,000 voters were stupid enough to swing to Cruz based on this (not) "lie?" Or 25,000 voters changed their minds from Carson?

308 posted on 02/05/2016 11:41:51 AM PST by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Trumpinator
How is it someone can claim to be lifetime conservative but always working for the govt?

I think we can separate men in women in uniform...

I was just trying to point out that a blanket statement like the first one is misleading. We need more true conservatives in government. If a principled conservative dedicates his efforts to getting himself in a position to fix government, we should support him, not berate him.

I'm reminded of the fairy tale where a rich man and a poor man die and arrive at St. Peter's gate at the same time. St. Peter doesn't see the poor man but let's the rich man in and there's a magnificent celebration. Afterwards, St. Peter returns to the gate, sees the poor man, and let's him in. A great celebration is held, but not as great as the one for the rich man. The poor man feels bad that his celebration was not as big and says to St. Peter that he's disappointed that heaven is the same as earth where the best goes to the rich. St. Peter replies that he shouldn't feel bad. They had the big celebration because poor people get into heaven every day, but it's so rare for a rich person.

The poor man is like a conservative soldier. The rich man is like a true conservative politician. We should rejoice at the prospect and not be so close minded as to think there is no such thing.

309 posted on 02/06/2016 1:04:33 PM PST by Family Guy (A society's first line of defense is not the law but customs, traditions and moral values. -Williams)
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To: DoughtyOne

wow. That sign really brings back memories. I was part of the Sore-Loserman protest that went to Joe Lieberman’s house, and in Time’s Square in 2000. I held one of those signs for many hours. . .


310 posted on 02/06/2016 4:05:54 PM PST by NYCslicker
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To: NYCslicker

We didn’t go to someone’s house out here, but we did go to the government building in Westwood, and protest en mass.

We and other groups combined to put about 250 people out there for four weeks running...


311 posted on 02/06/2016 4:08:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Nice!


312 posted on 02/06/2016 4:09:20 PM PST by NYCslicker
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To: NYCslicker

Well, I didn’t vote for Bush, but when it came to Gore vs Bush, Bush was the go to guy.


313 posted on 02/06/2016 4:13:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Family Guy

We need more true conservatives in government.-——Sure. I am not arguing that. We can get true conservatives to serve after they made their bones in the private sector.


314 posted on 02/08/2016 6:14:12 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you for your comments. I had come close to closing my chapter at Free Republic because I felt that you had completely lost control of it. I don’t know if there are trolls that have invaded your forum, but the mood has been nasty and ugly. This used to be a place where people could exchange honest ideas without fear of being flamed. That is no longer the case. An army of self important belligerents have invaded because they have been totally blinded by their ‘need’ to force their candidate on everyone else and damn all that don’t agree with them. I used think that it was some deep need for personal validation with some of these people, but now I believe that this forum has been invaded by some crazies. If that is the case, then it is sad, because they have brought the level of FR down to the level of the Democratic Underground. This would mean that we would be as well respected as the DU. I have no desire, or need to participate in this venue if that is they case. I will continue to read the posts until I decide that it is a complete waste of time.


315 posted on 02/16/2016 5:09:39 PM PST by richardtavor
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