Posted on 02/12/2016 12:57:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind
There have been eligibility cases in other elections. I’m not limiting my view to presidential races, although those have been litigated too.
>>That's why I support him.
What's your definition of Conservatism?
'cause I'm pretty sure that "national populist" thing smells a whole lot like 1933 vintage "national somethingelseism" and the whole...
"oooooh loook at all the cameras and the big crowd -- It's just like the Oscars!"
...sillyness doesn't help change that perception - especially when Mr. Populist seems to have a bit of a problem articulating and supporting the various Conservative ideological foundations this Republic (ie not a populist Democracy) was built upon.
you are responding to the wrong poster apparently.....go redirect.
the point is he’s quick quick quick to sue and always has been. I bet if Cruz was like that Trump would call him a pussy....
Appreciate it.....he uses my stuff right much....never gets old.
He’d be doing Cruz and the party a favor to help get this issue decided and out of the way.
I am not running for President.
How to handle that:
As a non-attorney I can't claim to fully understand "standing" but after eight years of watching virtually every kind of plaintiff conceivable thrown out in suits against Obama I may have learned some things. I gather standing requires either actual or significant potential harm. Trump's claim to standing is being on the same ballot as Cruz. There'd be no harm if no one thought Trump had a chance to win; e.g. Jim Gilmore wouldn't have standing to sue over Cruz being on his ballot. There'd also be no harm if the allegedly ineligible candidate had no chance to defeat Trump, again e.g. if Gilmore's eligibility were in question. So Trump to claim he has standing to sue over Ted's eligibility means Trump is admitting there is a significant chance Cruz can beat him. If my legal logic is correct, that is a response Cruz can make. Trump doesn't want to admit ANYONE can beat him. To be shown admitting that would be like when Cruz showed that by some birther theories Trump himself was ineligible. That did surprise and rattle Trump, although he responded better to Cruz's next punch on 'NY values.' Cruz needs a better second punch this time with some variation of "shut up or put up" being one option.
Lol, trump showing his reading comprehension issues & his own nastiness with this tweet.Cruz is a US citizen therefor eligible to run for US president.
See reading the entire sentence takes away all the drama! There is no period after nbc so read on to see what other requirements are needed to be eligible for US president.
Wow! That's a novel approach to butchering the Constitution, not too dissimilar to something a kook at DailyKAOS might attempt on the Second Amendment. It's more curious because you RginTN, already had the explanation handed to you in another thread 12 days ago, yet here you are spreading this insanity again. What gives? Common Core public education? Once again ...
USA National Archives :: The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The brown part is the NBC clause, the red part is the grandfather clause. Ironically, the "Great Big One" Mark Levin also stumbled over this part, badly screwing up reading this over the air and completely failing to understand the meaning ( yep, some great Constitutional scholar ). I assume you are getting tripped up by the commas that the Founders used, even though their use is consistent throughout the document and Amendments.
The NBC clause is what is operative today, has been since the Founding generation ( and since everybody alive prior to the Constitution going into effect ) passed away. The Grandfather clause was in effect until that time, and the reason for it is well-known and quite simple ... Without it, the Office of the President would have needed to remain vacant until either 1823 or 1824 when the first Natural Born Citizens turned 35 years of age.
NB: It depends upon if you use the birth date of our new Constitutional government as that from ratification by the required ninth state on June 21, 1788, or, if you use March 4, 1789 when the first Congress had its first session and the Articles of Confederation were dissolved. On either of those dates the first Natural Born Citizens were born and would finally become eligible for the Office of President in 1823 or 1824 at 35 years of age, bypassing the Grandfather clause.
Cruz is a US citizen therefor eligible to run for US president.
Just a plain old citizen? Wow! Even a naturalized one? That means almost anyone and it also means that the President has the same requirements as all other offices, not a higher standard. Now please tell us exactly how you, the only person on Earth can possibly believe this?
Sorry everybody, I swapped colors in that 2nd and 3rd paragraph!
NBC clause
Grandfather clause
an opinion was given and rejected cause it was wrong.
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”
Yes Cruz is a citizen of the US.
Read the entire sentence. No period after the first 7 words. Get the word “or”. Read it. “Or”. See the semicolon. “;” is not a “.”
Continue tho to embrace the drama....
And thanke for pinging your buds. Can’t have drama all alone can you...lmaos!!!!
I’ll look at it. Thanks.
Trump is sick and damn tired of “Christian” Cruz lying about his positions. So once more, Trump is not pro-abortion, he’s not for ObamaCare and he doesn’t want to grant amnesty to illegals. Cruz has repeated this silly, childish, easy to refute nonsense nonstop in the last two weeks. He’ll either either knock out or he’s about to get ran completely out of the race.
Trump is sick and damn tired of “Christian†Cruz lying about his positions. So once more, Trump is not pro-abortion, he’s not for ObamaCare and he doesn’t want to grant amnesty to illegals. Cruz has repeated this silly, childish, easy to refute nonsense nonstop in the last two weeks. He’ll either either knock out or he’s about to get ran completely out of the race.
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I disagree. The comment about Obamacare - Yes, he was somewhat for it and even wanted to go to single payer. I remember when he said it. Yes, he has a right to change his mind but he has flip flopped so many times recently and over the years, I lost count. I am old enough to know what his views are over the past 25 years. It might help if you did a little research on your candidate.
an opinion was given and rejected cause it was wrong."No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."
Yes Cruz is a citizen of the US.
Read the entire sentence. No period after the first 7 words. Get the word "or". Read it. "Or". See the semicolon. ";" is not a "."
Ummm, let me get this straight. You are standing on your mistake? Your two mistakes?
Clearly you have no idea of the consequences of this punctuational folly. Not just for the Presidency, but also for subsequent reinterpretations of the First and Second Amendment, and everything else.
Right. Cruz is helping Trump. Cruz is preventing Marco Rubio from having a chance by splitting the Conservative vote.
Well, if Standing doesn’t mean doodley, then you can still bring the suit.
AS long as Trump has spent money campaigning against Cruz, he has been injured by Cruz’ ineligibility, if Cruz is ineligible. Trump is having to spend money to run against a candidate who is potentially ineligible - that makes standing.
I knew you like that one.
“Nominate Trump because he protected Obama”
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