Posted on 03/22/2016 12:22:52 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Donald Trump was the clear favorite in today’s winner-take-all Arizona primary, even before the Brussels terrorist attacks. The immigration issue and the flood of early voters favors him, as does the fact that some of those early voters will have cast ballots for Marco Rubio before he dropped out last Tuesday night. If they had known Rubio would no longer be a candidate, many of those voters might have gone with Cruz.
But polls have been tricky and often erratic this year (think Michigan and the surprise win of Bernie Sanders). For example, the latest poll showing a 14 point Trump lead appears to oversample Phoenix voters (59 percent of state’s population vs. 73 percent of those polled). Trump outperfoms his statewide average in the Phoenix area. The Washington Post reports that “Cruz could definitely score an upset in Arizona.” If that happens or Cruz comes very close here will be the relevant factors, according to the Post.
Cruz has a superior ground game. Neutral observers say his team is a lot more organized than Trump. His state director elected many Republican members of the legislature.
It’s a closed primary, meaning only Republicans can vote. Trump has struggled in closed primaries.
Cruz has scored a bunch of late endorsements: Rep. Matt Salmon announced his support last night.
Cruz is still perceived as strong on border security.
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>> I think the only remedy will be the fruition of their dreams and the inevitable crash back to reality that follows <<
I’m not so sure your “remedy” would work, because even if Mr. Trump suffers a 50-state loss in the General Election, many Trump supporters will continue to complain for years that a “stab in the back” by the GOPe was the sole cause for the Dear Leader’s humiliation.
Probably no amount of common sense, formal logic or hard data will persuade the Trump Brigade. And if Mr. Trump is too old and infirm to run in 2020, it won’t be surprising to see another, younger demagogue arise to woo his ardent followers.
” You fail to see, or you blindly accept the fact that your particular idol Ted Cruz has compromised himself fatally by happily getting into bed with the very establishment GOP vipers that he has railed about throughout his brief Senate career. “
Triple G (and any other ALLEGED conservative with an I.Q above room temp) knows the truth by now.
Without Trump in this thing to destroy the GOPe losers one by one, Cruz would have been 5th or 6th and have had to give up after Super Tuesday. The establishment roadmap would have worked, if only Trump hadn’t blown it up.
Not any more. Read the latest numbers. Cruz has just surpassed Trump in being the one who will lose the worst. Even more so if you go state by state.
Assuming, of course, that these polls mean anything, which they don’t.
That’s cute.. infantile, but cute.
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Yes you are; isn’t it nice to not have to deal with reality?
“..if Mr. Trump suffers a 50-state loss in the General Election, many Trump supporters will continue to complain for years that a “stab in the back” by the GOPe was the sole cause for the Dear Leader’s humiliation.”
Probably no amount of reasonable discourse. formal logic nor hard data will discourage the frothing-at-the-mouth anti-trumpers to do same when their undemocratically appointed candidate does same.
“And Trump can’t win a national election.”
Hate to break this to you, but he’s been winning one since South Carolina.
“Hate to break this to you, but he’s been winning one since South Carolina.”
Yeah? How again is he doing vs. both democrats?
Free Republic has gone down the tubes in recent months.
I’ll remind you of that reality as time goes on. Bet on it.
How is the GOP Primary a national election? If you think the GOP Primary is not a national election you either don’t understand what a NATIONAL primary, or you don’t understand English.
“Now take a deep breath and relax, and don’t quote me the “national polls” that show Cruz beating Clinton, because, AGAIN, they have no bearing whatsoever on “who wins in November.”
I’ve given you the only available statistical data that measures the GOP candidates vs Clinton... you discount it as meaningless, yet you have nothing to support your position. Unless you have something besides your “gut feeling,” your argument is completely without merit.
Who said a primary is a national election? No one said anything of the sort. I referred to the general election in November. Do try to keep up.
No you never said general election.. I quoted your exact quote in my original post. You said Donald Trump can’t win a National Election. I simply pointed out he is already winning a national election.
What’s most important is how he’s likely to do in November, not how the so called polls are saying he will do seven months before the election.
For example, taking your logic, Carter would have had a second term, and John Kerry would have been president.
From what is clear watching all the candidates to date , Trump is likely to beat any rat like a rented mule.
“From what is clear watching all the candidates to date , Trump is likely to beat any rat like a rented mule.”
Well, let’s hope. In the absence of any data that shows he’d do as you claim, hope is all there is.
“No you never said general election.. I quoted your exact quote in my original post. You said Donald Trump can’t win a National Election. I simply pointed out he is already winning a national election.”
Y’know.. if it makes you feel better to imagine that I referred to anything but the general election in November, then go with it. My reference from the start was about defeating the dem in November. You can play your silly little semantic games all you like... but the subject is the election in November.
Got it?
“I’ve given you the only available statistical data that measures the GOP candidates vs Clinton... you discount it as meaningless,”
It’s not the ONLY available stastical data. But it is meaningless.
” yet you have nothing to support your position.”
Lol, RCP data shows Cruz getting trounced by Clinton in FL, OH and PA. Those are must win states for any pubbie.
So He loses. Period.
” Unless you have something besides your “gut feeling,” your argument is completely without merit.”
Your argument is based on a poll of 1000 or so people extrapolated to 100 million voters across 50 states, that has no resemblance whatsoever to the electoral college votes.
My gut feeling is that state by state elections is all that matters, and given that is the method being used to elect the prez, one thing is for sure:
Cruz will lose very badly to Clinton.
And that is why the MSM and GOPe are pushing for him.
Don’t be a GOPE DOPE and fall for it.
Was there any data showing Reagan could win?
No.
Your argument is specious. No poll right now predicting the November election has any meaning at this point. None whatsoever.
Sorry about that.
We’ve been through that Reagan-Carter argument as nauseum. There is absolutely no parallel to Reagan-Carter and Trump-Clinton. And Trumpnis absolutely no Reagan.
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