Posted on 04/20/2016 11:58:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Congratulations to our presumptive nominee, Donald Trump!
Great job in New York and throughout this campaign. Cruz and Kasich are now mathematically eliminated and just like all the others who were mathematically eliminated should concede and drop out so we can all unite behind our nominee and prepare to defeat the godless America-hating traitor Hillary Clinton in November.
As conservatives and patriots, it's time to put bruised egos behind us, heal our differences and act united in the best interests of our nation. The media and the GOPe will try to keep us divided, of course, but we must not fall for their treasonous tricks.
A divided Republican party will ensure Hillary waltzes into the White House in November.
Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction. Hillary would be a third term for Obama and would complete his mission of completely destroying America.
Do not let freedom expire on our watch!!
I'm praying this forum and our loyal members will now be shifting into high gear to defend our freedom by uniting against the treasonous enemy within.
Let's get Trump over the 1237 mark and finally take the GOPe completely out of the picture!!
Then onward to the presidency in November!!
Sorry to burst your bubble, but none of that is new information for me.
If it is for you, glad you finally understand how things work...to some degree.
Here at Free Republic we are free to comment on anything we like. And if we find something wrong with a political party we can try to get them to see it.
That’s kinda why FR exists...
Trump is the only one that can beat Hillary.
Which is why the eGOP infiltrated the Cruz campaign (and were welcomed with open arms, Jeb, Lindsey Graham etc)
The republicans want Hillary to win and they know they can't sway Trump to their position.
I doubt blackmail would work on him.
Hillary isn't the only one that has compromising files on almost all top level politicians.
You are welcome to your own insane opinion, but every poll taken disagrees with you. And I know, I know, all polls are wrong (except the ones that show Trump winning of course - those are right up there with the 10 Commandments, handed down by God Himself...).
I can’t show you, only Trump can. One can, IMHO, easily surmise his future course from his past one.
Oh, and in order for him to show you, he has to be the nominee - there’s not much point otherwise, is there?
I'm watching and listening.
he has to be the nominee
If he's not the nominee, then I don't care about him.
Genius. If Trump is Establishment why the Frick are they doing everything in their power to stop Trump?? Cruz is your establishment Puppet. Your logic is flawed and laughable.
When faced with the Lyin cheating tactics of Crooze of the Mounties you have to FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE when necessary.
Remember your Canuckistan crapslinger started the dirty tricks against Carson. Trump is 100x the man losing Ted is!!
Such an event, so long as the present rules are maintained and the process remains limited to Trump or Cruz, will not represent a coup against the voters by the Republican establishment but the upwelling of sentiment by conservative grassroots activists. It is perfectly understandable that conservative grassroots activists will turn to the only conservative available, Ted Cruz.
When Ted Cruz contests within the rules for the nomination he is accused of splintering the party. Yet it is Donald Trump who was threatened to bolt the party not Ted Cruz. I ask you, will you support Ted Cruz if he emerges from the convention as the nominee? Why is the refusal of Trump supporters to come to the aid of the party if their man cannot win the delegates legitimate, but the desires of Cruz supporters to advance their own man illegitimate? As you know, I am pledged to support Trump if nominated and I will do so. Will you support Cruz if he is nominated?
It is misleading to extrapolate data from primaries onto the general electorate. For example, Donald Trump won big in New York which advances him toward the nomination but does not advance him 1 mm toward victory in the general election because the Democrats, having swamped Republicans in New York State better than two to one, will carry New York despite the fantasies spun by Donald Trump. Neither Trump, Kasich nor Cruz will carry New York.
As to the swing states, extrapolation is misleading. How did Romney do in the swing states after carrying them in the primaries? Donald Trump has won many of the swing states with bare pluralities. The majority of Republicans voted for other candidates. The job of Ted Cruz will be to consolidate those Republican voters, including Trump supporters who are not sore heads. The model for the Cruz campaign is not Romney but Reagan. In other words, the Cruz campaign will either succeed or fail on his ability to sell a conservative message as did Reagan. Trump is selling Trump and that is palatable to a limited demographic and repugnant to a huge portion of the electorate. As a conservative, I believe a conservative message can prevail.
I believe I have answered your questions responsibly, although no doubt unsatisfactorily. Despite your injunctions, I would like to make this remark about the character of Donald Trump: There is more to choosing a nominee for President of the United States of America than the likelihood of winning, as important as that might be. There is the question of the man's character. You and I have wrangled over the issue of Donald Trump's character for a long time and I respect you are skills in defending your guy. As you know, I am convinced that Trump is unworthy of the office because of his grotesque failings of character as demonstrated by his biography. We are entitled to consider whether a man is morally fit for the office and it is my opinion that Donald Trump is the third worst candidate for that office from the perspective of character.
Here’s the deal neophyte.
The pollsters, media, dems, republicans, eGOP, GOPe...you get the picture...are all working to keep Trump from running
When they get him stopped, Cruz’s friends Jeb and Graham and other mucky mucks from the the rep party will turn on him in a New York minute (nice reference huh) to destroy him and get one of their pretty boys nominated who they can be sure will give the election away.
You know, like McCain and Romney did.
Cruz is like the frog in the Scorpion and the Frog story, only he has TWO scorpions on his back.
Speaking of insanity, aren’t you ready for a checkup?
Dr. Zoo does Psychic liposuction.
If you want a session, I will pay for it.
Neophyte? This is the 10th presidential election I have been involved in as a voter and volunteer, and I was actively following the three before that. There is nothing of a political nature you can teach me.
Absolute nonsense. Rather, the factual case would be that the GOPe, allied with the Establishment/Left/Media, and the unprincipled Cruz campaign, just barely, was able to blunt Donald Trump's march to the nomination with an unprecedented campaign of character assassination as relentless as it was immoral and slanted. Abraham Lincoln didn't have to contend with anything approaching the 24/7/365 vendetta of slander that has been directed at him.
It's amazing that he's standing at all after such suicidal behavior on the part of the party elites. That will be the only reason for Donald Trump coming up short.
And you'd just like to pretend that didn't even exist. You'd like to think that the demonization was all just part of e legitimate process. For shame.
Also, you utterly failed to explain how the party wouldn't be irreparably splintered. The reason for that is that there is no scenario in which Cruz gets the nomination that doesn't guarantee that fact.
So, in essence, you are rooting for the party to be splintered. This is the type of realization that has caused Cruz's tumble in the polls post-Wisconsin, along with the Colorado fiasco in which Donald Trump turned lemons into lemonade. If Colorado didn't cause Cruz to fade in the polls after Wisconsin, then what, may I ask, did?
As to your notes regarding the swing states, again you're in denial of reality. It should be clear to any objective observer that Ted Cruz is an incredibly weak candidate in such states.
So, so summarize, you cheer for a scenario in which Ted Cruz swipes the nomination from Donald Trump, splinters the party, destroys voter enthusiasm, and goes on to lose in a landslide in November.
Fortunately, I think you will find that the GOPe and the GOP delegate are not as bent on suicide as you suppose. That's why your scnenario (Cruz splintering the party) won't even come to pass.
The far more likely outcome would be to go "off the board" after appropriate shenanigans with the rules, and install a true insider (as opposed to the dupe Ted Cruz) in the place of both the first and second place candidates.
Basically you favor utter chaos, combined with the whimsical belief that (magically, mind you) Ted Cruz, whom the voters have soundly rejected, will somehow unify a party whose elite have done everything in thir power to thwart their own frontrunner.
In this scenario, splintering the party is the best possible outcome. Indeed it's very destruction as a force in national politics is the more likely outcome.
All this is supposed to be for the best of the country and the party.
You speak of Donald Trump's narcissism. I submit to you that Donald Trump, if the situation were reversed, would not attempt such mayhem, and thus, I submit tha tTed Cruz's ego and narcissism make Donald Trump's pale in comparison, with Cruz willing to risk everything on a gambit that, even if successful, will guarantee a Hillary victory November.
Ted Cruz is putting his ambition ahead of both the needs of the party and the country, and he will be remembered for that, should his suicidal efforts succeed.
Fortunately, at this point, it appears that Donald Trump, against all odds, will emerge victorious. He is the only person with a real chance to unite the party, because he will have been tempered by the incredible fire he has had to walk through.
To reiterate, however, you failed to explain how Ted Cruz could possibly unite the party, and your assertion about Trump being "viscerally detested" remains an illegitimate substitute for what the American People have actually witnessed over the last few months: an all out effort by an entrenched, corrupt establishment, to destroy the only man who will shake the DC Uniparty cartel to its very core, without which nothing in Washington will ever begin to change for the better.
Ted Cruz has exhibited his selfishness and lack of character repeatedly throughout his campaign, and you imagine that somehow, with extremely narrow demographic support, horrible performance in swing states, and a huge deficit in both delegates and popular vote, is somehow the candidate to unite the party.
It is to laugh, if it weren't so serious.
Inasmuch as you are not on the ground here in America, I believe that you're completely misjudging the situation, and Donald Trump securing the necessary delegates before the convention, or during it, will bear me out my assertion.
So you're in the "chaos, splintering, and President Hillary guaranteed" column, Got it...
“You are welcome to your own insane opinion, but every poll taken disagrees with you. “
Just about every person in the MSM is out to get Trump.
Republican & Democrat. Who the hell do you think finances these polls. Act for once like you have a bit of common sense.
Hillary would immediately paint Cruz as a whacko bird, and
enough idiots would agree with her.
In case someone here hasn't seen my posts I'll say it again: We only need a double-fence with BP patrols in-between as built in California in certain areas (thank you Rep. Duncan Hunter). The vast desert wastelands along much of the southern border prevents crossing, unless the coyote/smugglers develop military size logistics to support 30 or so illegals. Ain't gonna happen.
I know because I was a Minuteman and did the run from San Diego on I-8 to I-10 and south to Tombstone. Too bad the in-fighting tore all that effort apart. It was actually influential in stopping certain Congressional efforts to appease the Hispanics. Of course now, we have Obama circumventing immigration laws and the USSC reviewing a 21 State lawsuit as I type this.
“Well, since he has allowed Trump supporters to stay on who have vowed to vote for the Dems up and down the ballot if Trump is not nominated,”
YOU LIE !
Are you saying no Trump supporter has threatened to vote for Dems if Trump is not nominated, or that JimRob has kicked off those who did so?
Presumpted nominee?? Cruz got more votes in little Wisconsin than Trump got in Big New York 524.932 trump
531,129 Cruz some body tell JimRob about that!!!!!!!!!
“Are you saying no Trump supporter has threatened to vote for Dems if Trump is not nominated”
No, I’m saying that you are a lying Establishment hack. There might have been one or maybe two out of 10,000. I have never seen even one. Let’s see if others have.
I’ve NOT seen ANY!
Cruz got more votes in Wisconsin than Trump got in NY
Trump 524,932 Cruz 531,129 hee hee look it up!!!!!
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