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1 posted on 09/02/2016 5:02:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Goldberg should note that the winner of the Iowa Caucuses was the one candidate who opposed ethanol subsidies.


2 posted on 09/02/2016 5:05:45 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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......ethanol is very popular in Iowa and other corn states.....

I call them corn whores.

Either ethanol as a viable substitute or additive is economically feasible, or it is not. There is no middle ground here. We have had ethanol subsides for YEARS and all that crap does to engines is rot seals, hoses and gaskets; corrodes metals in older engines; RUINS O2 sensors and ADDS expense to gasoline we are FORCED to put in our cars and trucks.

Corn Whores.

3 posted on 09/02/2016 5:06:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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just the other day people found stations selling ~50% corngas, blending screwup or something, yeah right...
5 posted on 09/02/2016 5:09:55 AM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING!)
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This is a huge issue, or should be.

On one hand we’re told there’s chronic world hunger, and yet we are compelled to put corn in the gas tank instead of people’s stomach.

Plus is IS stupid for the reasons outlined in the above article.


6 posted on 09/02/2016 5:12:03 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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And while we’re at it, let’s kill this “regionally-formulated gasoline” BS; only a government moron could possible come up with something so friggin’ stupid.


8 posted on 09/02/2016 5:17:38 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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The only legitimate reason I could see for the ethanol subsidies was to create the infrastructure we’ll need when we have the cellulose-based ethanol production working.

Problem is - we still don’t have the cellulose-based ethanol production working.


9 posted on 09/02/2016 5:18:42 AM PDT by jdege
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It is not just about cars:

I have a couple of 60+ year old tractors, various dirt bikes for the kids, a variety of lawn mowers, chain saws, and weed wackers. All of these are being destroyed by the crap that they sell as "gasoline".

My circa 1954 Massey-Harris Pacer was produced in very small numbers. Replacement parts are simply not available. The engine was made by Continental: A company that has been out of business for 40 or 50 years.

Ethanol is costing us our history by destroying vintage cars and machines.

10 posted on 09/02/2016 5:19:40 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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I looked at the headline/title .... “Why Now is the Right Time to Talk About Ethanol” and thought .... what a ridiculous statement. NOW? With all that’s going on in the world NOW, and the election of all elections, just around the corner, NOW is the Right Time to Talk About Ethanol?

Then I saw “Jonah Goldberg” and I understood. That MORON is trying to change the subject since his #NeverTrump status has probably all but ruined his career.

Did I read it? Of course not. WHY would I believe ANYTHING this douchebag has to say?

FUJG


13 posted on 09/02/2016 5:21:22 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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I blame George W. Bush.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005

That and Medicare Part D.


16 posted on 09/02/2016 5:24:34 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This space available)
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Thankfully, we don't have to worry about that for a little while, so let's tell the truth: Ethanol is stupid, wasteful and bad for cars (because it's corrosive and inefficient), the economy and the environment.

Welfare for farmers.

17 posted on 09/02/2016 5:25:48 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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I pay $0.40 more per gallon for unadulterated gasoline.

You shouldn’t have to pay more for unadulterated gasoline.

Anyone who want to purchase adulterated gas should be free to do so. Anyone who doesn’t should be free to do so as well, without paying a penalty.

Let the free market decide between adulterated and unadulterated gasoline.


19 posted on 09/02/2016 5:27:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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If it was economically sound to put corn in the tank, it would happen without government mandates and subsidies.
'nuff said.

21 posted on 09/02/2016 5:30:49 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Clearly we should switch to Brawndo, it’s got what engines crave. It’s got electrolytes.


22 posted on 09/02/2016 5:30:54 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~ur/base/*)
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In Tennessee we make ethanol and age it in charred oak barrels

it is sold as Jack Daniels black label


25 posted on 09/02/2016 5:33:20 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... We Frack for Peace)
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Not this crap again! My position on this has never changed - what people call ethanol subsidies is simply not taxing it as petroleum motor fuels. If not taxing something is a subsidy then I wish wed subsidize everything. This means everyone that pays anything but the top tax rate is subsidized. This logic says that clothes purchases with no sales tax are subsidies. Ad nauseam.

Plus a note to Jonas - how totally irrelevant are you writing about ethanol in the middle of a battle for the soul and sovereignty of the USA? Ivory tower conservatism is as useless as nipples on a bull.


26 posted on 09/02/2016 5:34:03 AM PDT by major-pelham
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Sure, Jonah, with issues such as the poor economy, illegal immigration, terrorism and national security, the voters in the presidential election should turn their thoughts to ethanol.


27 posted on 09/02/2016 5:34:38 AM PDT by Will88
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Not just ethanol, but boutique fuels for every freakin' green state, what we have something like 60 blends?

Enough, one clean blend, make it fungible or did all the wonks mandating this never take Econ 101-102...

31 posted on 09/02/2016 5:42:08 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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Methanol from cellulose (or biomass) is the way to go. It can be mixed with ethanol and used in its pure form or blended with gasoline. Biomass is out of the human food chain, inexpensive (such as wood fiber and corn stover) and with the new technology, the methanol yield per ton of fiber could make America energy independent. Methanol can also be made from coal and natural gas. For a good treatment of the energy challenge to independence, here is what Dr. Robert Zubrin writes:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.energy/EakceSO5TNU


61 posted on 09/02/2016 6:36:41 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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Why Now is the Right Time to Talk About Ethanol

Now? That's because you want to create an enormous distraction to the main issues going on in this country.

By comparison with everything else, ethanol is a nuissance issue. Yes, it's wrapped up in the uniparty/globalist/k-street control of the U.S. Government. But that is the issue, not ethanol.

No one is going to win this presidency taking a strong stand on ethanol, either side of the issue.

81 posted on 09/02/2016 6:59:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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I just tried a tank of no-ethenol unleaded and got +3 MPG over my usual gas.


102 posted on 09/02/2016 7:45:24 AM PDT by Blogatron (...and the train it won't stop going, no way to slow down.)
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