Posted on 11/28/2016 4:29:52 AM PST by Kaslin
Hillary Clinton would have to win a clean sweep of recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in order to overturn the election, and even her team concedes flipping one state is unlikely.
Nevertheless, the Clinton campaign is officially contesting the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. There is no other way to describe joining Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s effort to get recounts in the three states.
After the third presidential debate when Trump indicated he might not accept the outcome, Clinton said, “that is a direct threat to our democracy.” That’s when she thought she would win. Clinton is seemingly a passive participant in the recount effort, but after her attacks on Trump, she couldn’t exactly go all in. That doesn’t mean Stein is a stalking horse for Clinton, but this certainly allows the former secretary of state to challenge the outcome without appearing to threaten democracy.
Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Elias said in a post on Medium, “now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides. If Jill Stein follows through as she has promised and pursues recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan, we will take the same approach in those states as well.”
Or, translated: Not our idea, just along for the ride. But if it makes Hillary president, bonus.
It would have to be all or nothing for Hillary to become the first woman president. If just two states flip to Clinton, Trump still wins. For instance, suppose the two most populous states switch and Hillary wins Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes and Michigan’s 16, that would bring her to just 266 and Trump down to exactly 270.
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New Yorkers had better wake up.
Yeah, in a lawful, fair America, that's probably the reality.
But don't count Hillary out, yet -- she has been awfully 'lucky' through the years. Turning $1k into $100k virtually overnight in the stock market comes to mind. And don't forget those 'lucky' coin flips that helped her during the primary season.
Seems that enormous amounts of dirty money can buy a lot of 'luck', if you're the right person...
Trump MUST appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Clintons.
Trump MUST appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Clintons.
Bull. Let me make a wild prediction: the recounts initiated-by and funded-by anti-Trump forces will, amazingly, change the vote totals to reduce, possibly even eliminate President-elect Trump's margin of victory. Yet I'm sure they'll consider it "fair" ...
With big-government fascist liberals, "fair" has taken on a whole newspeak meaning.
In other words she plans to steal the election.
“This is a Soros-funded & controlled action, with useful idiot Jill Stein as the public face.”
Doesn’t make sense. Without the Stein votes, Hillary would have won Michigan, and maybe others.
An honest recount of the votes will change the totals only slightly—maybe by a few hundred votes in each state. For Hillary to win the electoral votes, massive numbers of ballots have to be suddenly discovered, or ballots properly cast somehow altered. Does Hillary really think the media will convince the public that figures giving her a majority of the popular vote in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are honest numbers?
The best part of this is that it is not going to happen. Looks Like MI and PA will not do it. I expect WI to come up with a loophole today.
Just had another thought. Perhaps, given the loser’snowflakes propensity to riot, a recount that could possibly be spun as showing doubt could be to push the already itchy snowflakes over the edge instigating civil unrest. And by that I don’t mean peaceful protest.
Funny...my autocorrect changes the “s” in “loser’s” to snowflakes. Har! I think I’ll leave it in.
Overturned, no. But dismissed because they would be unable to meet the deadline, effectively discarding that state's EV, is that possible? There'd be a mighty lot of disenfranchised voters.
Any recounts ordered would be done in time for the electors to vote. Hell, it only took one night to count them the first time.
“There is no other way to describe joining Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s effort to get recounts in the three states.”
Yeah there is, two of them. One for Stein to save face as Hilary trying to hide behind her was so stupid absolutely nobody bought it. and two: MONEY! The Green Party doesn’t have that much green money for the effort. Soros does. And he didn’t back her one ioda during the election, so it would have been totally stupid to consider he would back her recount over Hilary now to supply it. Although, this stupidity of really being displayed with the support for a single digit percentage candidate to “demand” a recount and enough people thuinking it to be possible. Or just the dishonesty of the liberals grasping at legal straws to get someone else elected. Brain emparred either way.
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Very well said.
From what I’ve read, it seems the largest vote margin overturned in a state-wide race is around 300:
“When the initial count was completed on November 18, Franken was trailing Coleman by 215 votes. This close margin triggered a mandatory recount. After reviewing ballots that had been challenged during the recount and counting 953 wrongly rejected absentee ballots, the State Canvassing Board officially certified the recount results with Franken holding a 225-vote lead.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Minnesota,_2008
“The initial result, as reported by Secretary of State Sam Reed, showed Rossi with a lead of 261 votes, well within the margin for an automatic machine recount pursuant to Washington state law (less than 0.5% and less than 2,000 votes). After a statewide recount completed on November 24, Rossi again came away with the lead, this time by 42 votes.”
It then got very dirty:
“There was a further search for more ballots, and on December 17, county workers discovered a tray in a warehouse with an additional 162 previously uncounted ballots. All together, 723 uncounted or improperly rejected ballots were discovered in King County during the manual hand recount.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_gubernatorial_election,_2004#Discovered_ballots
I have no doubt the Washington race was stolen by fraud, but we’re still discussing hundreds of ballots - and Trump’s smallest lead is over 10,000.
If Detroit “finds” 20,000 previously uncounted votes, I’d support an armed force taking out Detroit. But it would take a very massive and blatant fraud to change the outcome in any of the three states, let alone all three.
Sam, good point.
Would that be the first woman Mayor of NYC? This sense of entitlement to rule is crazy. I wonder, if she does decide to run, if DJTJr will be enticed to spank her a second time?
“Appointed” means when specific individuals are identified to fill the role of electors.
Should read HILLARY’S LAST GAS.
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