Posted on 03/26/2017 9:20:51 AM PDT by Resettozero
Are you concerned about the Democrats saying “no”? I guess not. This “NO” was to leftist everywhere and thank God for it. It gets worse if Trump doesn’t wake up. We put him in office — Not RINOS!! We need to give him a chance but following Paul Rino down the cliff is not smart.
You miss the point. It was an easy vote and they all voted for it, because it's what their constituents want.
Good post.
Everyone’s gone goofy.
Folks are still in Obamacare with faux insurance that isn’t insurance. Deductibles through the roof, premiums rising higher than a 45 degree angle. Planned Parenthood is still out spending our hard earned dollars. The regulations and taxes aren’t going to be repealed. Men will continue to pay for Ob/Gyn coverage. Trump’s power has been foolishly wasted and deflated. Brat, Meadows, Gohmert and Jordan are walking around pretending they did the right thing. They didn’t.
They could have made people’s lives better - near term. They could have enhanced Trump’s position not knee capped him. They could have relegated PP to the dustbin of history.They could have demonstrated they could govern instead of bloviate. Obamacare is an abomination that should never have passed. Rolling it back incrementally is better than leaving it in place to hack away at society.
Real people’s lives are what matters. A pretend debate on the philosophy of conservativism, as if DC is Free Republic, is an absurd position to take if we want a long term change. If the GOP can’t govern, they’re not going to be back. There will never be a President like this again. Obviously Trump felt the adjustments to Ocare to get to the deregulation round and the drug/interstate commerce round were better than leaving it in place lock, stck and barrel. Friday’s pulled vote over HFC defections was the height of foolishness.
I was a strong Trump supporter but I follow no one blindly.
I have criticized his failure to end DACA and his tweet this morning was stupid.
Obamacare II was a bad bill that would not have been made it through the Senate. If it did it would have come back worse.
Ryan wanted to rearrange Obamacare and hang it around Trump’s neck.
I worked my tail off to get Eric Cantor out of office and am extremely proud of Dave Brat and will work hard to make sure we keep him.
If Trump wants to become best buds with the RINOs and piss off conservatives, he’ll be a one term wonder.
No one voted, they pulled the bill, they were losing as many RINOs as conservatives.
Obamacare II sucked.
I've seen zero evidence that that's the case. This bill would have been dubbed "Trumpcare" and hung around the President's neck for him to get blamed when premiums didn't go down "near term". This bill was "Obamacare lite", plain and simple.
Furthermore, it would have put Paul Ryan totally in control of the theoretical "Phase 3" that needed to happen later. President Trump would have been totally at the mercy of a GOPe titan who wants him to fail.
This debacle hurts Paul Ryan more than anyone, because this bill was Ryan's baby, written by the insurance industry (not patients) behind closed doors, with no attempt at achieving consensus with the interests that were supposed to support it, and then depending on some whimsical "Phase 3" that would magically occur after HHS Secretary Price did "Phase 2" with his rule-writing (and rescinding) power.
What part of "Ryan doesn't want Trump to succeed" do you not understand?
RINO Paul Ryan needs to be replaced as Speaker. I believe that more than ever. What happened to the "good" legislation that made it to Obama's desk a half dozen times in the last 6 years, passed by essentially the same Congress?
I hope the President learned a lesson that you can't let the biggest gators in the swamp produce the legislation that is supposed to drain the swamp. The reforms President Trump signs should be offered by patriotic Congressmen and Senators such as Cruz, Paul, Lee, and equivalent elements in the House.
If there was any compelling evidence that this law would have brought premiums down before the 2018 midterms, I haven't seen it, or heard it cited by anyone, so that claim is questionable, to say the least.
Combine that with a complete lack of the supposed patient-centric "free market" reforms that are supposed to be the centerpiece of this "repeal & replace" effort, and what you had was a piece of legislation which would have sabotaged the President, hung around his neck as "Trumpcare", and very likely would have assured that he only served one term.
I’ll try to help.
First, elimination of all Zerocare taxes
That was done. Then they wanted more.
Second, a rewrite so it was only a repeal only, and then a replacement plan sometime in the future, approved by the FC
More. Third, eliminate ‘essential health care services’
More. Fourth, revoke Title 1 (kick off pre-existing and kick the kids off the parents’ policies) Trump puts his foot down on this. NO.
More. Fifth, Promise from Trump to repeal administratively as many Zerocare regs as he could.
More. Sixth - sweetheart concessions to the reps’ states
More. Seventh - we changed our minds, back to complete repeal - which brought the Trump ultimatum.
We’re voting no.
Cheerleaders behind the scenes: Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Koch Bros (promised 400million but only for those who voted against the bill)
I could accept that as a valid reason to support the Ryan bill, but I saw nothing in the bill that made anyone's lives better -- short or long term.
In fact, my biggest fear was that the bill was so ineffective at dealing with the biggest problem with Obamacare in the eyes of most Americans who hate it -- namely, the ridiculous escalation of insurance premiums year after year -- that the GOP would have been thrown out of office on their asses in 2018.
The problem is that the power people (both Dems and RINOs) wanted to transfer the costs of healthcare from the corporations to the taxpayers and Democrats did that and turned it into an entitlement for the "poor" through subsidized tax policy.
They don't really want it any different and all of the drama has been nothing more than theatrics from Congress.
Where in the Constitution is the requirement that citizens must purchase health insurance from the federal government?
No, its the people who have his back, you should be giving Trump the benefit of the doubt.
The first lesson in leadership is learning how to follow.
Stabbing the man in the back while he his fighting for us.
Shame on all of you.
Yeah, passed when Obama was President and the FC knew full well he wouldn’t sign it. That took real courage by the FC, lol!
It is extremely likely that the Freedom Caucus just gave us single payer healthcare. Anyone who thinks Obamacare is going to go bankrupt and then magically it will just be 2007 again, lives in a political fantasyland .
Yeah, passed when Obama was President and the FC knew full well he wouldn’t sign it. That took real courage by the FC, lol!
Of course it didn't take courage then. They voted the way their constituents wanted them to vote.
Imagine that.
LOL.
Hey, no one stabbed Trump in the back. We are questioning his tweets, his lack of support for conservatives.
The man’s not exactly incapable of reaching out to his base when he knows we’re all troubled by recent events. No one’s turned on him but I personally have questions I’d love for him to answer about where he stand with conservatives.
We’ve fought the establishment tooth and nail to elect him. We deserve an encouraging word in times of trouble.
There is no perfect plan, nor does Jim Jordan’s submission even purport to be a “perfect” plan.
Perfect is the sworn enemy of the good and workable. Because by the time the last polish is put on it (were that possible) it shall have become totally obsolete.
A good plan now beats a “perfect” plan that may never be introduced.
Perhaps the best strategy now would be not to make a different plan, but work with what we have. The structure of Obamacare is in place, and it carries its own set of unintended consequences, that may be used to invalidate and neuter it completely. Time after time, a phrase appears in the text of the bill, “as the Secretary (of HHS) may direct”.
Well, it is OUR Department of HHS now, and the Secretary Thomas Price, a medical doctor, is a sworn enemy of Obamacare. Almost every edict that was passed down by Kathleen Sebelius and Sylvia Burwell can and perhaps should be reversed, and Tom Price can point at the phrase “as the Secretary may direct”, and be entirely within the law. Even the most ardent of partisan judges would have a hard time shrugging that off.
Now is not the time to go all wobbly.
Why should any conservative support a bill that provides taxpayer funded healthcare for illegals? This was a terrible bill that no conservative should support.
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