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A second firm hired by Trump campaign found no evidence of election fraud
WaPo ^ | 04/27/2023 | Josh Dawsey

Posted on 04/27/2023 1:31:45 PM PDT by semimojo

Former president Trump’s campaign quietly commissioned a second firm to study election fraud claims in the weeks after the 2020 election, and the founder of the firm was recently questioned by the Justice Department about his work disproving the claims.

Ken Block, founder of the firm Simpatico Software Systems, studied more than a dozen voter fraud theories and allegations for Trump’s campaign in late 2020 and found they were “all false,” he said in an interview with The Washington Post.

“No substantive voter fraud was uncovered in my investigations looking for it, nor was I able to confirm any of the outside claims of voter fraud that I was asked to look at,” he said. “Every fraud claim I was asked to investigate was false.”

Block said he recently received a subpoena from special counsel Jack Smith’s office and met with federal prosecutors in Washington, but he declined to discuss his interactions with them. Block said he contemporaneously sent his findings disputing fraud claims in writing to the Trump campaign in late 2020...

Prosecutors are trying to show that Trump and his advisers definitively knew — or had good reason to believe — that their myriad fraud claims were false as they continued to spread and fundraise off the claims. The claims ultimately convinced many voters the election was stolen and inspired rioters to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. The falsehoods also brought in more than $250 million to Trump and his allies.

Key to building such a case, experts say, is proving that Trump and other advisers making the claims publicly did not believe them or had evidence to know they were false.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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To: thefactor
That is ridiculous. They are not eligible unless they are registered to vote.
141 posted on 04/27/2023 8:08:39 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: thefactor
Trumpers have no proof of widespread election fraud.

https://hereistheevidence.com/

142 posted on 04/27/2023 8:10:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: thefactor
Here we have a firm hired by Trump confirming what we've already known,

OMGQ! We didn't know *ANYTHING* in 2020, and neither did this firm. It took us over a year to figure out much of the fraud, and anyone who says they looked at it all in 2020 is either a liar or an f***ing idiot!

This is one of the things that pissed me off a lot at the time. People were arriving at a decision of "no fraud" without even looking at the evidence of fraud, and a lot of the evidence hadn't even come out yet!

143 posted on 04/27/2023 8:14:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: thefactor
Yes, of course. You saw something in grainy video from behind a gymnasium somewhere in Arizona that hundreds of high-priced lawyers and Republican election observers and officials and judges missed.

You didn't see the video of Ruby Freeman (Georgia) running the EXACT SAME STACK OF BALLOTS through the counting machine over and over and over again?

You are starting to sound like either an ignorant fool, or a deliberate liar.

144 posted on 04/27/2023 8:17:00 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well no court or judge would touch the evidence with a 10 foot pole. FR posters are not the PTB. Without a court adjucating the evidence it has no value.


145 posted on 04/27/2023 8:23:13 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: semimojo

This is timed as they are going after Trump for the insurrection. Jean Carroll. Somehow inflating his property values when they are assessed by the cities and appraised by lenders. Document storage.

They need him off the ballot. He slows the eventual WEF robot land of death.


146 posted on 04/27/2023 8:35:55 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....l)
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To: fwdude

Whatever the system they are using, it is very sophisticated. Because you know Biden did not get more votes than Obama, Hillary, and Trump.

And yet their system can somehow, in real time, take the real votes, the workers rescanning stacks of Biden votes over and over, maybe computer hacking of the voting machines, maybe reams of fake ballots, maybe workers altering machine totals, maybe foreign hacking of the machines by China, and mash them all into a total where Biden wins, and then, when there is a recount, somehow they have swapped out the paper ballots to produce a matching result on the recount in the paper hard copies.

It is not surprising. Whatever is given this responsibility by the conspiracy has to be CIA-tier, if not actually CIA. They have wargamed their system to make sure it cannot be uncovered.

But that should not mean we cannot figure it out.


147 posted on 04/27/2023 8:39:55 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information - http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/surveillance)
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To: PIF

Can you name one such precinct? Or give a link to someone who does name one? Registration by precinct and returns by precinct are available on line, so it should be easy to name one. I haven’t been able to find one.


148 posted on 04/27/2023 9:44:26 PM PDT by BohDaThone ( )
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To: Skeptical constituent
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/registered-voters-by-state

The above source, which gives state-by-state totals and citations to Sec State sites, shows 214 Million. It is true that some general sources say 168, but that seems to be an error, unless you can provide a state by state table that differs from the 214.

And your figure of 55-62% turnout being usual is a figure for turnout as a percentage of ALL eligible or voting-age adults, many of whom are not registered. For a presidential election, turnout can run well over 80% for educated areas with voter rolls that are well-maintained -- on down into the 60-70% range for less educated or lazy (stuffed?) voter roll areas.

149 posted on 04/27/2023 9:55:43 PM PDT by BohDaThone ( )
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To: CodeToad

The vote count was 155 million and you say that was 20 million over the registered total. Nobody is saying there are only 135 million registered, unless you can give me a source?


150 posted on 04/27/2023 9:59:14 PM PDT by BohDaThone ( )
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To: thefactor; Sarcazmo
I have a decided lack of interest in what your IPhone told you to think, thefactor.   
151 posted on 04/27/2023 10:36:50 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BohDaThone

Milwaukee’s 3rd ward for one

Also 2nd 4th 6th 9th 10th
I don’t know the ones in Dane county

Election was like 20,000 more votes for Biden than Trump; Milwaukee and Dane counties accounted for all the overage. That is, if you were to throw out all of the votes from certain wards and precincts in those two counties, DJT would have won WI in a landslide.


152 posted on 04/28/2023 3:30:35 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DiogenesLamp

My only point is that you have to measure election turnout consistently. They have chosen to measure eligible voters rather than registered voters. The attempts to make the turnout 92% rather than 67% should tell you everything you need to know about the fraud election crybabies around here. They are dishonest.


153 posted on 04/28/2023 3:58:29 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: DiogenesLamp

We are all surrounded by the same data and liberals. Some of us just are not so feeble minded as to believe their BS and repeat it.


154 posted on 04/28/2023 5:51:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: BohDaThone

Only an idiot would repeat the ballot stuffing numbers as truth.


155 posted on 04/28/2023 5:52:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Vote for the idiots that destroy your retirement, this nation, and everything in the future. Moron. Why are you on FR if you desire the destruction of this nation?


156 posted on 04/28/2023 5:54:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Vermont Lt

You retired on the government dole, not by your own wealth. Socialism.


157 posted on 04/28/2023 5:58:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: thefactor
My only point is that you have to measure election turnout consistently. They have chosen to measure eligible voters rather than registered voters. The attempts to make the turnout 92% rather than 67% should tell you everything you need to know about the fraud election crybabies around here. They are dishonest.

I don't see it. Being a person that never kept up with how "turnout" was measured in the past, upon looking at the issue it seems obvious to me that the correct methodology for measuring "turnout" is to see what percentage of registered voters showed up at the polls.

The idea of using people who never bothered to register as part of the equation would never have occurred to me.

But let us say for a moment that your argument is correct. What is the normal "turnout" for a presidential election measured the way you say it has always been measured?

158 posted on 04/28/2023 7:44:59 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: CodeToad
We are all surrounded by the same data and liberals. Some of us just are not so feeble minded as to believe their BS and repeat it.

The data is available, but that doesn't mean everyone else has seen it. They ought to have seen it, but some people don't devote the same degree of effort to keeping up with what is happening as do others of us.

I and others have been looking at the fraud evidence. A lot of freepers clearly have not been.

I think many people make up their minds what they want to believe, then only read articles that conform to their already made up mind.

159 posted on 04/28/2023 7:47:38 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: semimojo

LOL, right.


160 posted on 04/28/2023 7:48:24 AM PDT by riri (What’re y’all talking bout? I just got a new set of Michelins for the house!)
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