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Maui residents who disobeyed barricade survived fires: AP
ap ^ | August 23, 2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 08/23/2023 11:26:01 AM PDT by george76

Those who disobeyed the barricaded road closures during the Maui fires survived the disaster, while many of those who heeded orders to turn around perished in their cars and homes with no way out...

At least 114 people were killed in the fires earlier this month, and the FBI is estimating that up to 1,100 more are unaccounted for. Officials are facing increased scrutiny for the emergency response, including why the emergency sirens were not set off and whether closing the roads prevented people from getting to safety.

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Officials closed Lahaina Bypass Road due to the fires, blocking the only way out of Lahaina to the southern part of the island.

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One family swerved around the barricade set up to escape the flames, while another resident took a dirt road uphill to climb above the fire... However, many others who stayed in the cars on that road were stuck in a gridlock, with fires surrounding them on most sides

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Nate Baird and Courtney Stapleton recounted their experience to the outlet, saying they loaded the car up with their two sons, Baird’s mother and one dog to escape the flames. When they turned south to escape Lahaina, they were met with cones and were told to turn around to Lahaina, which was already burning.

Instead of turning around, they swerved past the cones and escaped to a neighboring town.

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we literally had minutes and one wrong turn. We would all be dead right now.”

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they had 10 more minutes, they could have saved children who were left home alone in their neighborhood during the fires.

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Kim Cuevas-Reyes said that she survived with her two sons by ignoring orders

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 0prah; barricade; burning; donutwatch; fire; fires; followingorders; hawaii; ignoring; ignoringorders; lahaina; lahainaburning; maui; mauifire; mauifires; mauiwildfires; oprahwinfrey; orders; respectmyauthority; roadclosed
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To: Ann Archy

“Hawaiians must have the IQ s of MORONS !” As a MORON yourself, put down that broad brush.

Nothing will happen to the officials who were in charge before and during this tragedy because they are all DEMOCRATS.


61 posted on 08/23/2023 12:16:57 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Exactly !

My thought as well.


62 posted on 08/23/2023 12:17:49 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: dfwgator

Bump


63 posted on 08/23/2023 12:19:49 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: george76

Did anyone cry out..”I can’t breath?”


64 posted on 08/23/2023 12:20:32 PM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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To: Ann Archy

I think it is country wide.......


65 posted on 08/23/2023 12:21:13 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Kahuna

I heard he was reassigned to a non emergency part of the government. Any word where he was assigned?


66 posted on 08/23/2023 12:23:48 PM PDT by mware
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To: Organic Panic

From Wikipedia:

“Mazie Keiko Hirono: The first elected female senator from Hawaii, the first Asian-American woman elected to the Senate, the first U.S. senator born in Japan, and the nation’s first Buddhist senator. She considers herself a non-practicing Buddhist[1][2] and is often cited with Hank Johnson as the first Buddhist to serve in the United States Congress.[3] She is also the third woman to be elected to Congress from Hawaii (after Patsy Mink and Pat Saiki).

This is pure identity politics, the bedrock of Marxism.


67 posted on 08/23/2023 12:24:39 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Ann Archy

Surprising since Asians have high IQs but are also subservient to authority.


68 posted on 08/23/2023 12:28:09 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: george76

When government senses that things are spinning out of control, its instinct is to clamp down, asserting control in ways that make no sense or are actively harmful — all to maintain the narrative that We Are In Control. There was a lot of this after Katrina.

Loss of life is a misfortune to these people, but loss of control is the whole world. It’s why they exist.


69 posted on 08/23/2023 12:28:44 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Kahuna

bkmk


70 posted on 08/23/2023 12:29:01 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: george76

https://www.lahainanews.com/


71 posted on 08/23/2023 12:30:44 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: DeplorablePaul

We have forest fires quite often here in the pine barrens, often with only one road in and out of towns. I would think if Maui fire departments would have focuses on keeping the road open so people could escape, but then then again they didn’t have water to do even that.


72 posted on 08/23/2023 12:30:58 PM PDT by mware
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To: george76

73 posted on 08/23/2023 12:31:44 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Disobeying barricades?

It’s an insurrection!”

Exactly, and the FBI will get right on it.


74 posted on 08/23/2023 12:32:15 PM PDT by Parley Baer (o)
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To: george76
I saw a couple videos about this. Only 2 roads out (?) and cops were blocking the main one and directing people back into the fire zone.

This needs to be front and center.

75 posted on 08/23/2023 12:35:56 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: george76

Again no plan for evacuation and incompetent leadership


76 posted on 08/23/2023 12:52:54 PM PDT by The Great RJ ( )
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To: sphinx

Did they?

Guess what Hawaii uses to count the votes...


77 posted on 08/23/2023 12:56:46 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

Please, do tell.


78 posted on 08/23/2023 1:01:16 PM PDT by everlast
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To: george76

I learned a long long time ago to not be like sheep.


79 posted on 08/23/2023 1:02:29 PM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; george76; Organic Panic; jonrick46; Kahuna
EXCERPTS from link at reply 6

Specifically, according to accounts of four people with knowledge of the situation, M. Kaleo Manuel, a Native Hawaiian cultural practitioner and DLNR’s deputy director for water resource management, initially balked at West Maui Land Co.’s requests for additional water to help prevent the fire from spreading to properties managed by the company.

According to the sources, Manuel wanted West Maui Land to get permission from a taro, or kalo, farm located downstream from the company’s property. Manuel eventually released water but not until after the fire had spread.

Gov. Josh Green spoke candidly Monday during a press briefing about conflicts over water on Maui – although not the DLNR-West Maui Land Co. incident directly – and encouraged news media to explore the issue. The conflicts are rooted in the diversion of water by large plantations, which starved downstream users from a resource essential for Native Hawaiian agriculture, particularly the traditional practice of growing taro or kalo.


80 posted on 08/23/2023 1:04:01 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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