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NTSB Chief: Crash Probably Accident
Associated Press ^ | November 12, 2001 | By RON FOURNIER, AP White House Correspondent

Posted on 11/12/2001 11:30:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

Monday November 12 2:24 PM ET

NTSB Chief: Crash Probably Accident

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By RON FOURNIER, AP White House Correspondent

WASHINGTON (AP) - White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) said there were no unusual communications from the cockpit of an American Airlines plane that crashed Monday in New York. The head of the U.S. safety board said current information indicates the crash was an accident.

Fleischer said President Bush (news - web sites) was informed of the crash within minutes of its occurrence in a residential section of Queens, and that Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge hastened to the White House Situation Room to confer with other senior officials on a conference call.

At a White House briefing, Fleischer said the National Transportation Safety Board (news - web sites) had been named the lead investigative agency into the crash, in which an Airbus crashed shortly after takeoff from John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York. Marion Blakey, chairwoman of the NTSB (news - web sites), said, ``All information we have currently is that this is an accident.''

The crash triggered moments of intense concern inside the administration, struggling to cope with the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks and the anthrax outbreak that followed a few weeks later.

But initial information seemed to allay concern that the American Airlines crash was another bout of terrorism. Several administration officials, including some at the White House, said that based on preliminary information the incident did not appear to be a terrorist attack.

Blakey said the flight data recorder had been recovered and would be analyzed by federal safety experts. Fleischer said there had been no credible threats against airplanes in advance of the crash.

The White House spokesman declined to rule terrorism in or out as a possible cause of the crash but said he would not dispute the assessment of U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, who said there was no preliminary evidence of terrorism.

The airlines have taken a financial beating since the suicide hijackings of Sept. 11, and officials have worked to rebuild public confidence in the industry. ``The president continues to believe that people need to travel,'' said Fleischer.

An administration source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said preliminary reports led the FBI (news - web sites) to believe there was an explosion aboard the plane, and was investigating whether it was an accident, mechanical failure or an act of sabotage. Fleischer said he could not confirm the report.

``There have been, according to eyewitnesses, information that an engine was seen being detached from the plane and that it landed separately from the main body of the airplane,'' he said.

With the nation on high alert, a result of the Sept. 11 attacks, Fleischer said Bush was in the Situation Room, convening a national security meeting, when he was handed a note shortly before 9:30 a.m. that a plane had gone down.

Bush spoke with New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (news - web sites) and Gov. George Pataki and ``expressed to both of them his deepest sympathy for the people of New York to be enduring any other trauma,'' Fleischer said.

The spokesman stepped to the microphones in the White House briefing room less than three hours after the plane crashed with 255 passengers and crew members aboard. Several eyewitnesses reported hearing explosions aboard the plane, and a piece of an engine came to rest outside a gas station in the Queens section of New York.

``There were no unusual communications with the cockpit,'' Fleischer said. He said investigators had not yet found the ``black box'' that records important in-flight information.

He also said Bush had dispatched federal investigators and search-and-rescue personnel to the scene.

New York area airports were closed in the wake of the crash, and federal officials briefly considered a nationwide shutdown. But Fleischer said officials did not intend to do that, and indicated the New York airports wouldn't be closed for long.

Bush postponed a scheduled interview with Russian and American reporters so he could monitor the investigation into the crash of Flight 587, which had just taken off from John F. Kennedy International Airport en route to the Dominican Republic. He meets Tuesday with Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites), opening three days of talks in Washington and Texas.

Intelligence agencies, the FBI and the Federal Aviation Administration (news - web sites) were reviewing all recent intelligence for any signs that terrorism was involved but an hour after the crash there was no evidence pointing to an attack, said a U.S. official speaking only on condition of anonymity.

``They are comparing information to see if it provides any insight into what transpired. At this point, there's no indication of a terrorist attack, but it certainly can't be ruled out in current environment,'' the official said.

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White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer briefs reporters, Monday, Nov. 12, 2001, after an American Airlines jetliner, on its way to the Dominican Republic with 255 people aboard when it crashed moments after takeoff in New York City. Bush administration officials said the FBI believed there was an explosion aboard the plane, and was investigating whether it was the result of a mechanical failure or sabotage. (AP Photo/Doug Mills)


An FBI agent (L) holds one of the battered and dented "black box" flight recorders from American Airlines flight 587 in his lap as he removes it from the scene of the crash in a New York City police car November 12, 2001 in Queens, New York. An American Airlines Airbus A-300 passenger jet crashed while taking off from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport. REUTERS/Jim Bourg


One of the battered and dented 'black box' flight recorders from American Airlines flight 587 lies on the ground beside a New York City police car as it is taken from the scene of the crash by an FBI agent November 12, 2001 in Queens, New York. Investigators quickly recovered the flight data recorder from the doomed jetliner and are transporting it to Washington for analysis. (Jim Bourg/Reuters)


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To: mewzilla
Practice? Not buying that one, these guys do things for maximum effect.

My understanding is these engines are replaceg at 10,000 hours, this engine was at 9800 hours.

41 posted on 11/12/2001 12:54:14 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Old Hickory
I just saw the Rudder(tail)section being pulled out of Jamaica Bay. It looked in great shape,no dents or signs of impact,as far as I could see.I guess the shear wind force tore the darn thing right off.
42 posted on 11/12/2001 12:55:38 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: MeeknMing
Alright folks, lets move along, nothing to see here.
43 posted on 11/12/2001 12:56:17 PM PST by Patriotic Rich
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To: MeeknMing
Tell you what it sounds like to me...terrorists. The engine fell off and the tail was found 9 blocks up. Sounds like something blew up. Probably was supposed to go off yesterday but it didnt. The plane was just serviced yesterday, not a complete physical but it was checked. If something was put on it, was then.
44 posted on 11/12/2001 12:57:08 PM PST by Lady GOP
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To: sinkspur
You're a hysterical idiot.

You got that right. Sheesh.

45 posted on 11/12/2001 12:59:01 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Just a theory, but if this was a bomb placed inside the plane, just suppose it went off to early. Maybe the intended target was the city of NY.
46 posted on 11/12/2001 12:59:57 PM PST by Badfoil
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To: MeeknMing
PLANE'S MOTOR CAME DOWN IN A BOAT AT A GAS STATION - MOTOR HAS A HOLE IN IT ---- NOT THE BOAT'S MOTOR. . .

Your "friend" is misinformed.

That was an engine shroud in the gas station. The engine was elsewhere.

I'M TALKIN JUST A SMALL HAND HELD SAM SHOT FROM ONE'S BACKYARD...

You're talkin' hysterical foolishness.

Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. There are stories of both wings falling off, of an explosion causing one engine to come off, of both engines falling off...

But, then, some people will believe anything as long as it fits their pinhead conspiracy view of the world.

47 posted on 11/12/2001 1:00:07 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: jwalsh07
Why would terrorists blow up a plane full of Haitians when they had their choice of planes loaded with Americans?

Real simple. I flew to Puerto Rico over the weekend and was amazed at how hard it is to tell the difference between some latins and arabs.

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who planted the bomb was on the plane.

He wouldn't have stuck out like a sore thumb.

48 posted on 11/12/2001 1:00:58 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: Lady GOP
CMSGOP saw the tail, no evidence of blast, he said it tore away clean. If true, does that change your mind?
49 posted on 11/12/2001 1:01:08 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SerpentDove
Read the whole post.

I did read it all. I just left off the "(/sarcasm)
;-)
50 posted on 11/12/2001 1:02:06 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: sinkspur
Let's see...what do we know now? Apparently, from multiple eyewitness accounts (and if you have been listening to Hannity today, you've heard some of them) that the plane leveled off at an altitude too low for a routine take-off, we know that the plane made an attempt to return to JFK and it dumped its fuel into Jamaica Bay...you know, the normal things planes do right before bombs go off.

We know that the plane was delayed for one hour before take-off for a mechanical check...obviously, Achmed, on the tarmac with the muffs was placing a bomb in that miraculous place where it could cause an engine separation, but not destroy the engine, not be seen on the body or wings, and not cause the wings to go, either. Nice job.

Then we know that the pilot sent out a transmission that was picked up by at least one other pilot that he had mechanical problems...common by-the-book tactic pilots are supposed to do during terrorist incidents and/or right before bombs go off...are we seeing a pattern here??

51 posted on 11/12/2001 1:02:51 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Badfoil
I'm pretty sure the normal flight path from JFK to Santo Domingo goes nowhere near downtown. JFK is southeast of Manhattan and Santo Domingo is southeast of JFK.
52 posted on 11/12/2001 1:02:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Rome2000
Try telling that to the families of the dead.

The families of the dead are as hysterical as you, about now. They don't know, and you don't know.

If your objective is to totally destroy commercial aviation, keep posting preposterous statements like that one!

Another dopey statement. Another airline related terrorist incident would destroy commercial aviation quicker than a mechanical problem.

But, keep believing your conspiracy fairy tales. Free Republic is crawling with kooks today!

53 posted on 11/12/2001 1:03:03 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
There is NO evidence that a bomb blew up that plane.

Of course! Everyone knows: it was a scud missile! ;-)
54 posted on 11/12/2001 1:04:01 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Careful, you're dangerously close to having your hat taken away.
55 posted on 11/12/2001 1:04:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
I thought that it was the newer engine (800 some odd hours) that experienced the failure? I also thought that the engines were overhauled, not replaced, at 10,000 hours? In any case, I think it's way too soon to rule anything in or out since even a mechanical problem could have a criminal component.

The only thing that the govt can do not to compund this awful event it to be completely truthful about it at all times. If they lie, even once, even about something niggling, Heaven help them.

56 posted on 11/12/2001 1:04:20 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: MeeknMing; jacquej; Rome2000; Gargantua; rickmoe; SerpentDove
Gentlemen,

It seems that you all have certain KNOWLEDGE that this is indeed a terrorist act.

There's only one way you all could have such knowledge, and that is because you are all involved in this outrage.

Therefore, I propose letting the FBI arrest you and engage in what was euphemistically called "hostile interrogation" back in days of yore...

Constitutional rights? You don't NEED no stinkin' rights.

57 posted on 11/12/2001 1:04:41 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Rome2000
New Yorkers can smell a con a mile away.

Please. Have you ever heard of Senator Clinton?

58 posted on 11/12/2001 1:05:22 PM PST by mwl1
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To: sinkspur
There is NO evidence that a bomb blew up that plane.

Actually, there's way more evidence that there was a bomb than not (little things like people hearing an explosion and pieces like the wing and engine falling off and landing away from the main crash site).

If anybody is hysterical it is you, I'm LMAO at your posts!

59 posted on 11/12/2001 1:06:10 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: Rome2000
There is absolutely no evidence of any bomb anywhere on this plane. You miss the point totally. Why would a terrorist board a flight to Santo Domingo, the poorest nation in our hemisphere in order to harm Americans. It makes zero sense.
60 posted on 11/12/2001 1:07:50 PM PST by jwalsh07
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