New strategy for "DumpDAVIS" FReeps: multiple "eGray in a garbage can" MOBILE STRIKE FORCE teams

Thanks for the ping! Do you think it would be cool to slap that bumper sticker on a dead New Yorker?

21 posted on 09/08/2002 6:36:09 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl

Hi, HangFire! What does your schedule look like for THESE possible FReep dates?

...some OTHER possible "DumpDAVIS" FReep dates and venues:
Tuesday (9/17) – noon to 2 pm – Simon/Camejo debate at the Beverly Hilton
Saturday (9/21) – 11 am to 1 pm – "Latino Summit" at the Westin Bonaventure (L.A.)
Saturday (9/28) - to be determined - California GOP Convention in Orange County
Monday (9/30) – 10 am to noon – Bill Simon speech at the Nixon Library

Saturday (10/5 or 10/12 - ?) - proposed statewide Sacramento FReep

Costumes are OPTIONAL, of course, but you would make a great "Superman SIMON," at ONE of these events... :o)

22 posted on 09/08/2002 6:53:45 PM PDT by RonDog

That site is wonderful - still chuckling. Thanks for the link.

23 posted on 09/08/2002 7:30:15 PM PDT by Libertina

To: John Jorsett

See also:

California: Davis-Simon debates stall.
Only a pair of meetings scheduled for television.
Sacramento Bee via Oakland Tribune ^ | September 8, 2002
Posted on 09/08/2002 6:16 PM Pacific by John Jorsett
SACRAMENTO -- Chances are dimming that California voters will see much of Gov. Gray Davis and Republican challenger Bill Simon in live televised debates before the Nov. 5 election, at least not in prime time or in English.
The two campaigns have not discussed specific debate terms directly, and the Democratic governor appears ready to agree to only a pair of face-offs, one at noon in early October and another on the Spanish-language network Univision at a time to be determined.
"That's going to be a disservice to just countless numbers of voters in most regions of the state who will never get a chance to see Mr. Simon and Gov. Davis side-by-side, live and in person in their living room," said Stan Statham, president of the California Broadcasters Association, which has helped stage past gubernatorial debates. Four years ago, candidates Davis and Dan Lungren met four times on television between July and October, an unprecedented number of debates for a gubernatorial election.
But the governor's race featured no incumbent that year. This year, Davis has a lead in the polls, millions of dollars of campaign cash for paid television advertisements and presumably less incentive to offer the challenger free shots at him on the tube.
Davis campaign spokesman Roger Salazar said the governor has less time to meet an ambitious debate schedule this year compared to 1998 because of his official duties. Davis must act on nearly 1,000 bills before a Sept. 30 deadline, and then has but five weeks to spend on the campaign trail, Salazar said.
Simon's campaign has suggested up to six televised debates staged throughout the state, with specific, predetermined issues to be discussed at each. It also has called for the inclusion of Green Party candidate Peter Camejo. The Davis campaign has rejected both notions.
California Republican Party adviser Sean Walsh said Davis is ducking debates generally and avoiding a live joint appearance in the early evening, when the most viewers would tune in.
"Davis is not a good debater," Walsh said. "Davis' problem is the more you see him on TV, the less you like him."
Salazar suggested that it is Simon who should duck the debates.
"He wants the exposure, but given how weak his grasp is of the issues, I'm not really sure that when he gets into it that he's going to want more of what we have to deliver," Salazar said.
Including Camejo or any other third-party candidate is "out of the question," Salazar said, noting that none of the minor-party candidates has come close to achieving the 15 percent rating in public polls that serves as a threshold for presidential debates.
"Camejo from our perspective is just a Republican pipe dream," he said.
"They're trying to build him up because they know they can't win on their own."
Statham said it is important that the debates be carried live, and be broadcast in the early evening hours -- not at noon on Oct. 7 (a Monday), as Davis has proposed.
"If you're between 'Days of Our Lives' and 'The Young and the Restless,' two things happen to gubernatorial debates: you don't get as large an audience as you would hope, and the audience you do get is not the audience that goes to the polls and votes," he said.
Candidates would speak English in the proposed Univision debate, but their voices would be largely dubbed over by Spanish translations.
Despite the four debates held in 1998, subsequent analysis showed that they may not have been as helpful to voters as hoped. Only in San Diego and Sacramento did viewers see all four meetings live on broadcast television. No Los Angeles station -- broadcast or cable -- carried the campaign's last two debates in September and October.
A May 1998 poll by the Public Policy Institute of California showed 85 percent of voters believed debates would help them evaluate candidates. But in a follow up survey taken after the third 1998 debate, three out of four voters said the televised match-ups had little or no effect on them...
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24 posted on 09/08/2002 7:39:15 PM PDT by RonDog

Thanks for the most gracious compliment RD, I'll make as many of your listed rallies as I can. Keep up the great work!

25 posted on 09/08/2002 7:43:38 PM PDT by HangFire

To: RonDog; HangFire

26 posted on 09/08/2002 7:45:33 PM PDT by LurkerNoMore!

Hey, considering Davis won't agree to meaningful debates with Simon, I think you have another angle for street theater:

Gray Davis is....

27 posted on 09/08/2002 8:18:13 PM PDT by Antoninus

That site is wonderful - still chuckling. Thanks for the link.
You are welcome!

FReepers may have been aware of www.eGray.org for quite some time, but it is only now breaking through into the mainstream media.

Here is a short quip from http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/4029750.htm:

Posted on Sun, Sep. 08, 2002
Simon has a deal for highest bidder on eGray,
Web site parody of Davis
Going once, going twice . . . a little campaign humor. Seeking to liven up a governor's race where both candidates are turning off prospective voters in droves, Republican Bill Simon's camp last week launched eGray, a knockoff of the popular auction Web site eBay. The site (www.e-gray.com) spoofs Gov. Gray Davis as a craven fundraiser, willing to let donors bid on public policy. It lists 10 ``California Laws for Sale'' to the highest bidder.
``EBay and eGray have something in common -- their products go to the highest bidder,'' said Simon campaign spokesman Mark Miner. ``It's a fun way to keep the public informed of the pay-to-play tactics of the administration.''
The Davis camp, which has sent out more than a few faxes spoofing Simon, denies that campaign contributions affect the governor's policy decisions.
Speaking of craven fundraising, eGray isn't above it. The site links to pages where one can donate to the Simon campaign.

IMHO, the lefties in the media cannot HELP themselves: they HAVE to write about this!
The eGray parody website is TOO GOOD to ignore!

They are limited to throwing in such digs as:

Speaking of craven fundraising, eGray isn't above it. The site links to pages where one can donate to the Simon campaign.

The DIFFERENCE, as those bozos certainly know, is that Davis is solicting campaign contributions IN EXCHANGE FOR political favors.

Giving to a politician is not inherently wrong.

Still, they say that ANY press is good press, as long as they spell your name right.
Which they SHOULD do - soon, if enough of us contact to let them know that the PROPER SPELLING of the www.eGray.org url is:
www.egray.com, not
www.e-gray.com, as they have posted.
Internal Affairs is compiled by Mercury News Staff Writers Mike Zapler, Kate Folmar and Rodney Foo.
Send tips to internalaffairs@sjmercury.com, or call Zapler at (408) 275-0140 or Folmar at (408) 286-0264.

28 posted on 09/08/2002 8:34:17 PM PDT by RonDog

Hey, considering Davis won't agree to meaningful debates with Simon, I think you have another angle for street theater...
LOL! "Chicken Davis!"

The more ideas, the merrier.

Still, I want to focus on the PRIMARY weakness of Gray Davis:
He sells political favors for cash.

THIS issue will bring him down, IMHO.

29 posted on 09/08/2002 8:40:14 PM PDT by RonDog

To: HangFire; AnnaZ; DoughtyOne; Bob J; diotima; feinswinesuksass; doug from upland

I'll make as many of your listed rallies as I can.
Excellent!

We need as many FReepers from the Hollywood Resistance Force as possible!

SATURDAY FReeps, anyone?

30 posted on 09/08/2002 8:44:47 PM PDT by RonDog

...Which they SHOULD do - soon, if enough of us contact to let them know that the PROPER SPELLING of the www.eGray.org url is:
www.egray.com, not
www.e-gray.com, as they have posted.

Ooops!

BOTH spellings now seem to work.
Nevermind. :o)

31 posted on 09/08/2002 10:00:20 PM PDT by RonDog

Saturdays sound good.

(I'm going to start handing out eGray cards ;^)

32 posted on 09/08/2002 10:32:39 PM PDT by AnnaZ

To: RonDog; *calgov2002; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Gophack; eureka!; ElkGroveDan; ...

Way to Ron!

calgov2002:

California Laws for Sale

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33 posted on 09/08/2002 11:01:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks!

From ANOTHER liberal media outlet, the San Francisco Examiner, at: http://www.examiner.com/frank_gallagher/default.jsp?story=n.gallagher.0906w

To the highest bidder?
With two months to go, the governor's race is getting vicious.
Republican challenger Bill Simon this week unveiled a Web site -- www.egray.org -- that hits incumbent Gov. Gray Davis where it hurts.
Surfers who pull up the site are greeted with a dead-on parody of Ebay.com, offering undue political influence for sale at auction prices. Clicking on the various links takes viewers to the texts of news articles documenting what Simons says are examples of Davis' pay-to-play style of government.
"This site clearly illustrates the many instances of pay to play," said campaign manager Rob Lapsley.
"Gray Davis is selling the state to the highest bidder, and we thought we'd have a little fun with it."
Ebay.com's senior director of communications said the on-line auction behemoth wasn't exactly enamored of the Simon site, but had little recourse available.
"I think our legal team has looked at it and determined that there's not much we can do," the director said.
The Davis campaign did not return phone calls from the Examiner.
E-mail: fgallagher@sfexaminer.com
Frank Gallagher's political column appears every Monday, Wednesday and Friday in The Examiner.

eGray is vicious?

LOL!

34 posted on 09/08/2002 11:19:08 PM PDT by RonDog

eGray is vicious?

Says something about the Examiner!

35 posted on 09/08/2002 11:31:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

36 posted on 09/09/2002 5:37:46 AM PDT by Gophack

I like the classic and cheap tactic of placing people in trees and on balconies near Davis when he speaks and dumping bags of Monopoly money at him. Even better if you have someone in a Davis costume running around grabbing up all the "money."

I think theater and parody work really well in California. I remember the Senate race in 1986 when Alan Cranston was dead in the water against Ed Zschau, and then ran those hilarious "Wolfman Jack" parody ads poking fun at Zschau's flip-flops on many issues. Those ads were killer. This kind of stuff would be especially good in this race, because Davis is such a stiff and would look even more ridiculous trying to respond in kind.

The "eGray" site is just beyond brilliant. I've emailed it to dozens of people all over America. It may be the best campaign move I have seen in 30 years of politics. It is going to generate reams of positive free media for Simon, while highlighting Davis' pay-for-play administration. It takes off on a California icon in eBay too, but in a respectful way that should actually please the folks at eBay. Great, great work!!

37 posted on 09/09/2002 9:10:05 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

LOL again. Thanks RonDog. Looks like you all are having a pretty good time in this race. And high time our side learned about drama - the media is desperate to not fall asleep and any "theater" almost guarantees coverage. However, the slip on the site URL probably is not accidental. Reproters may want the fun of reporting, but they certainly don't want the public masses "sharing" the joke. (on them :)

38 posted on 09/09/2002 9:50:23 AM PDT by Libertina

To: Dems_R_Losers

"I like the classic and cheap tactic of placing people in trees and on balconies near Davis when he speaks and dumping bags of Monopoly money at him.
Even better if you have someone in a Davis costume running around grabbing up all the "money." - Dems_R_Losers

EXCELLENT idea!!!

Thank you!

39 posted on 09/09/2002 10:00:27 AM PDT by RonDog

Please keep me posted on the Sacramento freep. I'll be there with bells on! For victory & freedom!!!

40 posted on 09/09/2002 12:30:28 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy

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