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'Most muggers are black'
The Evening Standard (London) ^ | 11 October 2002 | Tim Rider

Posted on 10/11/2002 6:37:12 AM PDT by UKCajun

The deputy head of the Metropolitan Police has launched an attack on political correctness, saying that society cannot ignore the evidence that most muggers are black.

...Mr Blair pointed to the American example set by the Reverend Jesse Jackson, the former US presidential candidate. "We need a Jesse Jackson," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thisislondon.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: crime; gangs; jessejackson; pc; police; race
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To: pabianice
I was surprised (mildly shocked) to see the article. Racism is blamed for just about everything in the UK. It's just a matter of time when the statistics will be too.
41 posted on 10/11/2002 8:15:34 AM PDT by UKCajun
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To: andy_card
neighborhoods tend to have more crime than rich white (etc.) neighborhoods.

You have it backwards. Rich neighborhoods are created by people that are honest and hard working; people that would not mug someone simply because they themselves are failures.

The Blacks that live in my neighborhood are not muggers and would be appalled by your statement.


Stay safe; stay armed.


42 posted on 10/11/2002 8:21:45 AM PDT by Eaker
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To: Eaker
You have it backwards. Rich neighborhoods are created by people that are honest and hard working; people that would not mug someone simply because they themselves are failures.

There are delinquents in every neighborhood. Many of the kids in my neighborhood (median home price = $1.8 million) are as dishonest and lazy as those you'll find in the poorest slums. But their parents are rich, so they don't go around robbing folks for $20. I agree that culture is very important. But so is poverty.

43 posted on 10/11/2002 8:25:41 AM PDT by andy_card
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44 posted on 10/11/2002 8:30:15 AM PDT by mhking
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To: andy_card
My grandmother used to tell me, "Being poor is not an excuse for being a criminal". She's right!
45 posted on 10/11/2002 8:33:19 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: andy_card
My grandmother once told me, "Being poor is not an excuse for being a criminal". I think she's right!
46 posted on 10/11/2002 8:34:12 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: andy_card
My grandmother once told me, "Being poor is not an excuse for being a criminal". I think she's right!
47 posted on 10/11/2002 8:34:15 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: andy_card
"There are facts not worth knowing"....

Speak for yourself, please. There are quite a few who'd rather withold those kind of statistics, I'm quite certain. Here's another fact you probably don't want to know -- Hispanics are "white" when they commit a crime -- but Hispanic when they are a victim of crime. Neat, huh? If anything, obfuscation of the reality of crime causes discord -- there's a profound disconnect with what is reported in the media -- and taught in schools -- compared with the truth.

48 posted on 10/11/2002 8:44:55 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Dark Wing
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49 posted on 10/11/2002 8:46:21 AM PDT by Thud
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To: Rufus B. Washington
Personally, a stronger argument could be made that crime causes poverty. Once criminal activity reaches a critical mass of sorts, then legitimate businesses leave, since they cannot afford to be robbed on a regular basis, insurance premiums become prohibitive if not outright unobtainable. Decent families and citizens with the means to do so leave at the earliest opportunity.
50 posted on 10/11/2002 8:48:19 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US; andy_card
To paraphrase none other than Thomas Jefferson, there is not a single fact in the history of the world that would frighten me, or that is not worth knowing.

But, assuming Mr. Card's perspective, could we also apply that to the history of lynchings and Jim Crow? wouldn't these also be facts not worth knowing?

51 posted on 10/11/2002 8:49:42 AM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: UKCajun
"We need a Jesse Jackson,"

On behalf of the American people, take him.

52 posted on 10/11/2002 8:52:18 AM PDT by ChadGore
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To: andy_card
" I disagree. There are facts not worth knowing, facts that don't solve or enlighten any problems, the dissemination of which does nothing but enhance discord between peoples. Knowledge is a means, not an end.

Congratulations, Andy! You have won two (2) awards today!

1. Ostrich of the Year (just keep your head buried in the sand and you won't see the obvious).

2. Joseph Goebbels Censorship Award (Don't let the people know what is really going on). They can't handle it)!

53 posted on 10/11/2002 8:54:36 AM PDT by albee
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To: JesusIsLord
My grandmother once told me, "Being poor is not an excuse for being a criminal". I think she's right!

I think so too!

54 posted on 10/11/2002 8:55:12 AM PDT by andy_card
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To: Phillip Augustus
To paraphrase none other than Thomas Jefferson, there is not a single fact in the history of the world that would frighten me, or that is not worth knowing.

Guess what? I disagree with Thomas Jefferson.

But, assuming Mr. Card's perspective, could we also apply that to the history of lynchings and Jim Crow? wouldn't these also be facts not worth knowing?

No, they're facts worth knowing, but they're not facts worth dwelling upon.

55 posted on 10/11/2002 8:58:43 AM PDT by andy_card
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To: albee
just keep your head buried in the sand and you won't see the obvious

Ok, I don't see the obvious. Please explain it to me.

56 posted on 10/11/2002 9:00:03 AM PDT by andy_card
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To: Freedom4US
Personally, a stronger argument could be made that crime causes poverty.

I believe that to be the case as well. Larry Elder has written about this.

57 posted on 10/11/2002 9:04:20 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: UKCajun
As I have noted over the years, the only muggers that are black are black muggers. I never have had a problem with blacks, but I've had a few "social encounters" with white boys like me both in the miltary and out in the "real world."

And I spent 5 years as a grad student at the U. of Chicago visiting black friends (technicians, animal caretakers, and students in my professor's lab)in their homes and occasionally returning by myself to some very good black- and Chinese-owned eateries that they put me onto........

58 posted on 10/11/2002 9:04:39 AM PDT by tracer
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To: Rye
And I also wouldn't doubt that most serial killers are white.

Muggers are a lot more common than serial killers.

59 posted on 10/11/2002 9:07:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: andy_card
If you pull up statistics showing black vs. white crime rates as a way of demonstrating how the relative poverty...BLAH BLAH BLAH

TYPICAL LIBERAL "IMA VICTIM, YOUA VICTIM, WEBE VICTIMS" DRIVEL.

(1) I believe the poster was just pointing out the irony of the Deputy Police Head's decidedly un-PC statement followed by his calling for the King of PC, Jesse Jackson.

(2) Your reaction to this post is a typical liberal response to the true facts about crime in America, i.e. IGNORE THE FACTS, GO FOR EMOTIONS.
Make excuses for the perps.
Forgive the perps.
It's not their fault that they CHOSE a life of crime.
It's not their fault that the CHOSE to pull the trigger.
THEY'RE VICTIMS after all.
If you were the real Andy Card, your attitude wouldn't suprise me, comming from the most PC of PC states, Massachusetts.

(3) You DESERVE to live a few doors down from that Fat Commie Bastard Kennedy. Birds of a feather....

60 posted on 10/11/2002 9:17:22 AM PDT by JohnLoyRocker
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