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Drivers of White Vans are being treated as criminals
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Posted on 10/20/2002 7:48:19 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Are you suggesting that you are more of a gentleman than I? Thats just plain mean. I think Im going to cry. My finger is on the Abuse buttonplease, oh please, wont some other Freeper talk me down from this. I
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Waaaaa! Meowaaaaaaaa! Thats it, now Im crying, you cyber-bully.
To: CyberAnt
It sure does. I've seen law enforcement in (in)action. It's not a pretty sight and it sure doesn't give me the "warm fuzzys".
"WHAT?!!! Someone's shooting people??? Set up more speed traps and write some tickets!!!"
To: Liberty Teeth
hysterical Americans Make that: "hysterical female Americans"!
Men know enough to stand up for freedom, and let ploice know politely but firmly that this is a chinese-fire-drill abuse of police discretion.
(PS. BY "female", I mean female in archtype characteristic, as opposed to actual sex. The female archtype has many characteristics, some good, some bad. "Female hysteria" is one oldie but goodie. The male archtype has a different set of yet equal number of negative characteristics.
And by "Men who stand up" I include both men and women who stand up for their self-respect, rights and God-granted freedoms.)
1,043
posted on
10/21/2002 5:09:53 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: Texasforever
"Essential" also implies that freedom and liberty are a grant to each individual from the Creator and not to be allowed to be taken away lightly -- to do so can in circimstances amount to a dimunation of appreciation for God.
1,044
posted on
10/21/2002 5:15:32 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: Texasforever
"
The one on the left defiantly has a ladder rack"
While I belive you meant definite, it's more true this way! Today a citizen is defiant for driving a whote van with a ladder rack. What will it be tomorrow?
1,045
posted on
10/21/2002 5:25:35 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: Texasforever
"The militia is all able bodied men 18 to 40 something that are activated by Congress or by the individual state governors whose sole purpose is to quell civil insurrection."LOL!!!!....you took that one out of the Democrat's version...didn't ya.
redrock
To: straightbend
There is always some temporary crisis.
1,047
posted on
10/21/2002 5:32:26 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: HairOfTheDog
It was an illustration. You know, illustrating absurdity by being absurd. It was merely to make my central point, which really should not be controversial: that felony stop procedures do, in fact, endanger the lives and safety of innocent vehicle occupants moreso than other types of contact.
That's all I'm trying to say. Well, that, and that for that reason, it should be used sparingly. Yes, it does enhance the safety of police officers, but as important as that is, the safety of the public is paramount, and too broad an application of felony stop procedures would compromise the latter goal, in favor of the former.
Now, as it turns out, the white van thing might be irrelevant after all, as it seems the sniper may be bicycling to his getaway vehicle.
To: Cultural Jihad
LOL!
To: Mo1
Yes, it would!
To: SamAdams76
Let's say there was a bank robbery and a witness says that the robber was wearing a blue shirt. Does this mean that the police should go house to house, dragging out at gunpoint any occupant who happens to be wearing a blue shirt that day? I remember reading about a case in Australia, where police were asking all men in one part of town to voluntarily provide a dna sample, to help police solve a murder.
In other words, "would you like to prove yourself innocent?"
To: SamAdams76
But I cannot see the point of innocent people dragged out of their vehicles at gunpoint with no pretext other than the fact that they happen to be driving a white van. I think you ignore the fact that the sniper suspect(s) are alledged to be driving a white van. So the statement "with no pretext other than the fact that they happen to be driving a white van" is not right.
To: nunya bidness; Texasforever
Gee, nunya, I agree with you.
I think the law enforcement agencies should stand along the side of the road with a sign that reads
IF YOU ARE THE SNIPER, PLEASE PULL OVER HERE ---->
I think that will work much better. Along with Moose asking them to call back, this place will be safe again in no time! Nice conclusion, nunya.
To: Texasforever
These are people who are just rebellious to any authority. Don't let it bother you ;o)
To: SamAdams76
I used to drive a white Dodge Ram 3500, and I felt like the dealer who sold it to me was the real criminal. I think this kind of thing should be done to whoever sells anyone a white Chrysler product. Maybe Chevys too, but not Fords.
To: Howlin
BTW .. Fox News is reporting a Swat Team is surrounding a phone both in VA
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posted on
10/21/2002 6:44:47 AM PDT
by
Mo1
To: SamAdams76
Imagine if they had gun fingerprinting.....ALL legal gunowners would be treated as criminals.
To: SamAdams76
Man in *white van* arrested. Let's hope they got the guy!
To: Velveeta
Let's hope this is one of them. If so, it will be great news. I will also be surprised if this only turns out to be one guy. I hope nobody lets their guard down for a while because there may still be more out there.
To: luvtheconstitution
Thanks. I agree. Certainly these folks have the right to have an opinion, but I would feel much better if some of these opinions were informed. The problem, of course, is that some of these folks simply don't have the cognitive ability to peel back issues and truly analyze them. The are the consumers of sound byte hysteria TV. They believe themselves to be informed, which makes it that much more facinating.
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