An election scam (Thune - Johnson SD Senate Race)

freelancestar.com ^ | Monday, Nov. 11, 2002

[show me state]

Denise Red Horse, who died in a Sept. 3 car crash, somehow managed to apply for an absentee ballot on Sept. 21--in two different counties. Both applications were mailed from Democratic headquarters, where a party worker was found with a history filled with local names. Many of those listed in the book ended up registering to vote, which contributed to this statistical oddity: The number of people on the voting rolls in Dewey and Ziebach counties far exceeded the 2000 Census count of residents over the age of 18.

[truth defector]

The key is that this person died suddenly. Had this not happened, she would have voted twice none the less, probably without even knowing it. The dim got caught by a fluke. Paybacks are hell! God works in mysterious ways.

[sweetliberty]

"I fear that if they can't correct the problem, there will be a moratorium placed on absentee voting which will take the voice away from young men and women in the military."

I don't know if it is the same in other states but in Arkansas the military (at least overseas ones) absentee ballots are easily identifiable from the others and are sorted and counted separately from the rest.

[sweetliberty]

"I still can't believe the Dims were disenfranchising the military in FL in 2000."

Funny too, how with all the Rats' whining about counting every vote, they never were willing to count THOSE votes and they completely dismiss any attempt to address that issue.

[MattinNJ]

I agree with you that we should initiate safeguards like they have in Mexico. Clearly something has to be done. Frist, Racicot, and Rove really seem to know what their doing. Let's hope they do something about this. This even applies at the local level. There's a mess going on in a local election in North Carolina. The winner will decide which party controls the state legislature. If the Republican wins, they may be able to redistrict and we will pick up 2-4 seats in congress

I am willing to give Ashcroft a pass. He was in a difficult spot and seems to be a real gentleman. Thune has no choice-we need this seat. We are only one Arkancide and one Chafee away from being back where we started.

[Uff Da]

Wasn't there some dispute on Daschle's 1986 Senatorial win? Does anyone have the info on that???? I think it took awhile to proclaim him the winner, although he went to Washington and established an office........

[RGSpincich]

The key is that this person died suddenly.

That and the fact that 350 applications came in with mostly the same hand writing, in the same envelope from a Democratic operative on a reservation. LOL Even the county attorney had this one figured.

Dewey County election officials told The Wall Street Journal's John Fund that they had received "a huge envelope of 350 absentee ballot applications postmarked from the Sioux Falls office of the Democratic Party." That county's attorney says that many of the absentee ballot applications were filled out in the same handwriting.

[callisto]

The key is that this person died suddenly. Had this not happened, she would have voted twice none the less, probably without even knowing it.

Denise Red Horse, who died in a Sept. 3 car crash, somehow managed to apply for an absentee ballot on Sept. 21--in two different counties.

She couldn't have registered on the 21st if she had died on the 3rd.

[backhoe]

Vote fraud is cancer that undermines, denegriates and invalidates everybody's vote- right, left, or center. It needs to be uncovered, and rooted out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784452/posts

South Dakota Suspicions
The National Review ^ | 11-07-02 | Byron York

 

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/783850/posts
What happened in Bon Homme Co., S.D.?
CNN ^

 

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/4459206.htm

 

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/783963/posts

Arrest Expected in Voter Fraud Investigation (South Dakota)
South Dakota Attorney General ^ | 11/01/2002 | Mark Barnett
I just found an article that confirms that the Libertarian candidate DID drop out and DID throw his support to Thune. This minor little item barely made it to local papers, if at all.
http://www.argusleader.com/columnists/dkranz/10_20_02.shtml

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784111/posts

So Dak More Registered Voters Than Population??
Myself ^ | 10/6/2002 | Myself

Cross-link here:

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

[LoneGOPinCT]

To vote there requires two forms of picture ID.,you must be registered,submit a thumb print and your signature is closely checked and compared to the one on file. There are also a couple of other requirements. Too bad we are not as smart.

Never happen. That would scare away the black and hispanic voters from the polls. Don't you read the news? ;^)

[alloysteel]

Military absentee ballots were thrown out in Florida in 2000, just one of the sidebars to the election mess there. Throwing out absentee ballots everywhere would probably negatively affect the Republican vote total much more than the Democrat vote total. Which is why so many absentee ballots are "lost" in major Democrat areas, and yet the fact goes largely unremarked.

[SamAdams76]

This is not a "scam." This is a criminal act and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Those found guilty in tampering with this election should be punished by a stiff prison sentence.

Bush and the Republicans have been curiously silent about this matter. I can only assume that there are things going behind the scenes that we do not yet know about. Let's hope this thing is blown wide open and that John Thume gets the senate seat that he evidently earned.

[MoodyBlu]

Why aren't the Republicans making a bigger deal of this. Are there any suggestions of GOP voting fraud that I haven't seen?

The fact that the GOP does not make a big deal out of the fraud is the reason I will not donate money to the party. I will support individual GOP candidates but until the national party starts doing something about the fraud, fug them!

I am still convinced that PA was stolen for Gore in 2,000 due to the fraud in Philly and Pittsburgh. I worked my butt off in PA for Bush/Cheney and was conviced they would win the state. Upon hearing of near 100% turnout in some Philly precincts and voter manipulation in Pittsburgh, I despair to this day!

MoodyBlu

[Eala]

Are Republicans going to stand up for Thune?

I wouldn't bet on it. The Republican Party (RNC and its ilk) is totally weak, completely spineless. (That's why they don't get a penny from me; my time and money goes directly to candidates and campaigns I've personally vetted.)

[alancarp]

Here's the statisical details for seven South Dakota counties (hope this all fits):

voted DEM REP LIB dem%
bennett 3554 36.3 2264 2369 1435 60.6 1609 0899 694 16 55.9
buffalo 2014 41.3 1182 1123 0849 75.6 0793 0631 153 09 79.6
-corson 4221 36.9 2663 2569 1459 56.8 1579 0983 573 23 62.3
--dewey 6049 38.9 3696 4129 2694 65.2 2299 1678 598 23 73.0
shannon12783 45.3 6992 6990 5556 79.5 3118 2856 248 14 91.6
---todd 9269 44.0 5191 4884 3521 72.1 2508 2027 464 17 80.8
ziebach 2517 40.6 1495 1606 0975 60.7 0978 0648 321 09 66.3

Column 1: county name
Column 2: 2001 population estimate by US Census Bureau
Column 3: % of people under 18
Column 4: estimated eligible voters
Column 5: 2002 Registration rolls (S. Dakota elections website)
Column 6: Registered Democrats (same source)
Column 7: % of Democrats registered in each county
Column 8: Number voting in the US Senate election
Columns 9-11: those voting for each party in Senate race
Column 12: the Democratic percentage of the vote tally

Note that in Bennett, Dewey, Todd counties, the registrations outnumber the eligible population. In Shannon county, it's practically a tie.

Note that in Buffalo, Corson, Dewey, Shannon, Todd, and Ziebach counties, the percentage of Democratic votes easily outpaced the Democratic registration percentage.

TO BE FAIR: the S. Dakota population is 756,600 (est.), of which 61.1% are 18 or over. That's 462,283 eligible voters.... and there are now 475,984 active registrations on the books (not terribly surprising in a state with a declining population).

[bassmaner]

I am still convinced that PA was stolen for Gore in 2,000 due to the fraud in Philly and Pittsburgh. I worked my butt off in PA for Bush/Cheney and was conviced they would win the state. Upon hearing of near 100% turnout in some Philly precincts and voter manipulation in Pittsburgh, I despair to this day!

The vote fraud in Philly is so obvious it's sickening.

The mayoral election in 1999 was the closest election in 50 years with Republican Sam Katz coming within 20,000 votes of 'Rat John Street. The following year, the SoreLosers had over 300K votes, while Bush got only about 90K. That disparity, coupled with 100% turnouts in some districts, stinks to high heaven.

[LoneGOPinCT]

The fact that the GOP does not make a big deal out of the fraud is the reason I will not donate money to the party. I will support individual GOP candidates but until the national party starts doing something about the fraud, fug them!

I have exactly the same feeling. I used to donate a fair amount of money (for me anyway) to the GOP but as their spines began to atrophy over the years I had the same reaction.

[bandleader]

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!This fraud that is practiced so SKILLFULLY by THE RATS must be exposed!!

[TheBattman]

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[Dratlatl]

The military could be exempt from any law prohibiting absentee ballots.

Personally, I'd like to see absentee ballots done away with, except for the military, and allow people to vote early by going to the county registrar's office and leaving their sealed ballot there. It's time to put a stop to passing out ballots like cheap newspaper shopper coupons.

If some poor soul is disenfranchised by such a perverse confluence of events that he is unable to cast a vote, then that's a flaw to live with that's preferable to maintaining a system that almost provides for the theft of elections by those least qualified to hold office. Voter fraud is such a direct attack on our system that I can think of no valid reason why the death penalty should not be applied to those who practice it; God knows I have enough friends who ostensibly died to provide us this right, and to punish those who would try to deprive us of it would be both poetic and just.