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The Texas Democrat Massacre and Its Aftermath

Posted on 11/30/2002 1:31:36 PM PST by No dems 2002

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Here's my take on Texas. Would love to hear your comments.
1 posted on 11/30/2002 1:31:36 PM PST by No dems 2002
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To: No dems 2002
This is very strong analysis on your part. I suspect that many TX Anglos simply did not like the Sanchez presented over and over on paid ads. It's like the story of the dog food -- no matter how nutritious, dogs won't eat it, and consumers therefore won't buy it. Voters just did not buy Sanchez.

Other tidbits: Sanchez got 89 percent of the vote in his home county of Webb; Perry, about 67 percent in his home county of Haskell. Nearly 2,000 Webb Co. voters who backed Sanchez switched to David Dewhurst for lieutenant governor. These were Republicans voting for the hometown candidate for governor but not for John Sharp. Moreover, Congressman Ron Paul actually led the Republican ticket in Victoria Co., outpolling favorite son John Sharp by nearly 2,000 raw votes. Apparently statewide relatively few voters supported BOTH Perry and Sharp, which had been an expected ticket-splitting possibility. There were more Sanchez-Dewhurst split tickets than many thought.

2 posted on 11/30/2002 1:44:43 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: No dems 2002
I know of a few well-known liberals who got tired of the landscape and
moved to New Mexico in 1996. Place sure does smell better around these
here parts. Kicking butt ain't just for sport, it's a full-time occupation.
3 posted on 11/30/2002 1:45:47 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: No dems 2002
Excellent analysis. I speak in relative ignorance, but I think the Hispanic vote may be more important than you think. Republicans did better among Hispanics in Florida and Texas than they did in California, even though a Hispanic was running in Texas. That's because they like the compassionate conservative message represented by Jeb Bush and George Bush.

Pete Wilson, on the other hand, was a clumsy fool who represented the worst of all worlds. He was a pro-abort RINO who managed to give the impression that he was against Hispanics because he wanted to conciliate conservative racists but was unwilling to give them anything on abortion. At least that's the way the press successfully painted him, and it has alienated California Hispanics ever since. No real conservatism or compassion was visible anywhere in the Wilson campaign.

The best conservative candidates show genuine warmth and caring, as did Ronald Reagan. Those are the kind of people Hispanics are likely to vote for in place of the Democrats, who claim to be for the underdog but chiefly support abortion and sexual perversion--not attractive issues for most Hispanic or Asian voters.
4 posted on 11/30/2002 2:15:26 PM PST by Cicero
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To: No dems 2002
Excellent analysis! Now, with significant majorities in the state houses will they draw up a new congressional redistricting plan that will more fairly represent the state of Texas? Since the court implemented a plan for the 2002 elections the state legislature has the opportunity to draw the lines such that the republicans could pick up 5+ seats in the US House. Will this happen this year?
5 posted on 11/30/2002 2:17:30 PM PST by double_down
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To: No dems 2002
for one thing, hysteria and racial polarisation has taken over the democratic approach to Southern politics

bump

6 posted on 11/30/2002 2:21:59 PM PST by alrea
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To: No dems 2002
A once in a lifetime chance for tort reform, before the crooked lawyers and judges drive the last homeowner's insurance and last Rio Grande Valley MD out of business.
7 posted on 11/30/2002 2:24:48 PM PST by friendly
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To: No dems 2002
Hispanics are more integrated in Texas than in some other states. Since the hispanic presence in Texas pre-dates the Alamo, you don't see nearly as much racial prejudice here. Hispanics are simply Texans and nobody thinks much about it.

That's why hispanics are not a monolithic voting block in the state. I expect Orlando Sanchez will be the next mayor of Houston, and he's a conservative Republican.

9 posted on 11/30/2002 2:36:52 PM PST by Dog Gone
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Kirk?s appeal ran much deeper than the average black democrat, because he was the former popular mayor of Dallas, a predominantly Republican (and white) electoral base.

That is a myth promoted by the Kirk campaign. Dallas proper is not a conservative city anymore. It's just another urban democrat ghetto. Throw in all the suburbs of the metroplex and yeah, the Dallas area leans conservative republican. But Ron Kirk was NEVER elected mayor of all of that - only the Democrat infested city of Dallas proper.

10 posted on 11/30/2002 4:19:31 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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I expect Orlando Sanchez will be the next mayor of Houston, and he's a conservative Republican.

Let us hope so. Expect the downtown crowd to go for Bill White though, and Brown's thugs to go for Turner. I think it'll be a runoff between Sanchez and Sylvester Turner, in which case the Houston Chronicle will pull out all stops for Turner. They're they official henchmen of the light rail mafia and would never support Sanchez, who opposes rail.

11 posted on 11/30/2002 4:23:28 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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Ken Lay won't be donating the big bucks to Turner, as he did for Brown last time around. That might make a difference.

We can certainly count on the Chronical to oppose Sanchez, though. You're right about that.

12 posted on 11/30/2002 4:31:49 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: KQQL; BlackRazor; Coop; GraniteStateConservative
bumping your way......
13 posted on 11/30/2002 4:34:07 PM PST by deport
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To: basil; TXBubba; TheSarce; The Bat Lady; DrewsDad; austingirl
ping
14 posted on 11/30/2002 5:28:10 PM PST by tarawa
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To: No dems 2002
This is a very professional job.  Well done.

Comment:  " In Alabama, Georgia or South Carolina, their idea for defeating the dominant GOP"
                  needs to be "Georgia and South Caroina..."
15 posted on 11/30/2002 5:51:36 PM PST by gcruse
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To: No dems 2002
bttt for later read. Thanks
16 posted on 11/30/2002 5:57:12 PM PST by MattinNJ
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Sounds good to me. Don't forget Nebraska's one-party tilt. I am happy to say that in the last 15 years we went from almost totally Demoncrats on the national, state, and larger cities to almost totally Republican.

Interestingly, the only thing that changed was that the Republicans decided to quit splitting the Republican ticket wiht partisan bickering. When the primaries are over, the losing Republican pledges support to the winning Republican. Before that, the only reason Demoncrats won was because Republicans all too often continued the fight after the primaries.
17 posted on 11/30/2002 6:01:48 PM PST by jim_trent
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There have been alot of Republicans moving into Texas in the last 20 years and with the Democrats running left more and more, the result is a Republican majority. However, Dems are still in alot of these small town courthouses because of the older voters who still will not vote for a Republican. Though it is better now, more die hards will have to retire from life to increase the chance of a Republican being elected. This is mainly a situation in small counties where the people have lived here forever. That is where I get my name. These Dems would rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican. It really does go back to Reconstruction.
18 posted on 11/30/2002 6:23:35 PM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: GOPcapitalist
Yes indeed, the Dallas that "spat" on Adlai Stevenson in 1963 is no more!!!!!! Dallas elected a Republican to Congress as early as 1954. But it is no longer a conservative city proper. Almost no cities anywhere are conservative in the central areas.
19 posted on 11/30/2002 6:43:18 PM PST by Theodore R.
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Yea, these were the guys in east TX that had Sancez and Kirk yard signs out in force, making us believe that the Democrats were resurging. In the end, even Democrat East TX went Republican.
20 posted on 11/30/2002 6:44:36 PM PST by Theodore R.
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