Samantha Smith predicted it - now it's official: 'In Gaia We Trust'

http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/gaia.htm ^ | January 17, 2003 | Thomas Horn

[Cvengr]

In her excellent 1993 book, Goddess Earth, Exposing the Pagan Agenda in the Environmental Movement, Raiders News Update friend Samantha Smith warned that Gaia worship was at the very heart of today's environmental policy. Bluntly she decried, "The Endangered Species Act, the United Nation's Biodiversity Treaty and the Presidents Council on Sustainable Development are all offspring of the Gaia hypothesis of saving "Mother Earth."'

This week, in a National Review commentary, Christopher Horner conferred, saying, "...the environmental movement, now more than ever, does represent the American Left at worship. The green crusade is now crafting a new way for its own troubling religion to pervert traditional faith. Having fought in federal court to deny its religiosity — and thus continue its life-sustaining flow of taxpayer dollars — the Down With People machine is donning religious vestments and teaming up with the Bush administration to tap the president's faith-based initiative.

"CNSNews.com reports that 'EPA is informally seeking 'ideas' regarding how religious groups who promote green causes like climate change and pollution controls, can qualify for the White House's faith-based funds.' The very idea of green evangelizing infecting Bush's faith-based initiative should raise alarm, since the movement has far more in common with pagan themes than with traditional tenets of faith."

What's more worrisome is the goals of "greens" past, present, and future. Gaia-ism points to humanity - especially western civilization - as the world's great evil.

"Western Culture [is perceived as] the root of all evil," Smith observed. "These are some of the teachings of what is little more than the bastardized products of Eastern mysticism. Now called New Age religion, it culminates in deep ecology, eco-feminism and the worship of an ancient Greek God called Gaia - Mother Earth.

"Gaia teaches that man has damaged or destroyed the fragile balance of nature. Disciples of Gaia believe that all living things on earth are interconnected (except man) and to damage or destroy even a tiny insect is to damage whole ecological systems. Such a premise was the basis for Vice President Al Gore's book, "Earth in the Balance."'

So if man is the problem, what should be done about it? Horner reminds us that the faith-based funds-seeking environmental movement (a.k.a. EPA's Gaia worshippers) have a paper trail detailing their answer to the "people are pollution" quandary.

"To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem." Lamont Cole (as quoted by Elizabeth Whelan in her book Toxic Terror)

"This is as good a way to get rid of them as any." Charles Wursta, Chief Scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund, commenting on the likelihood of millions dying from a global ban on DDT (also quoted in Toxic Terror)

"I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds." Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace (quoted in Access to Energy, vol. 10, no. 4, Dec. 1982)

"The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state." Kenneth Boulding, originator of the "Spaceship Earth" concept (quoted by William Tucker in Progress and Privilege, 1982)

"The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species [man] upon the rest of the natural world." John Shuttleworth, Friends of the Earth manual writer

A prime spokesman for these Gaia-centered goals, according to Smith, is Father Thomas Berry, "a dissident Catholic priest and a leader of the Temple of Understanding, located in New York City. Father Berry contends that Christianity promotes 'deep cultural pathology of human greed and addiction.' He advocates that the earth is disintegrating and that Christianity is mostly to blame."

In his own words, "the world is being called to a new post-denominational, even post Christian, belief system that sees the earth as a living being - mythologically, as Gaia, Mother Earth - with mankind as her consciousness."

In an effort to make contact with Gaia's consciousness, a representative of The American Policy Center attended a meeting in Boulder (Colorado), called by Jose Arguelles (leader of PAN and New Age Transformation) where participants were presented with the idea that the earth is a living, spiritual being that can feel pain.

The group was asked to tune in to the crystal matrix frequency (Mother Earth's heartbeat) and to relax. Many went into trance-like states. As people felt they were being filled with the Earth's energy, they became vocal, with sounds rising and falling rhythmically. Some swayed and some fell down on the ground and began writhing. They were then 'brought to silence.'

Arguelles told the audience to concentrate on a cloud floating overhead, just drifting, and then told them to invite the cloud in to fill the empty spirit, the empty soul. He said to invite "PAN" in, accepting him as the leader and guide for their lives.

Jose explained that Pan was the first son of Mother Earth and used to live close to his mother in the primeval forest with his brothers and sisters, who went out and founded the temple-building societies (Aztecs, Egyptians, etc,). When Pan refused to join his siblings in the cities, they called him evil and Satan. They invented their own selfish religion, Christianity, which must be removed because it includes a vision of an Apocalypse.

The Boulder audience was told that 'right now Mother Earth is bringing Pan back to save us and lead us into the New Age. We can help by surrendering to him, tuning into the crystal matrix frequencies and carrying out the directions received while tuned in.' Arguelles explained this might include the physical removal of Christians, because they are the biggest obstacle to transformation."

(Pan, cloven-hoofed half man/half beast is one of the infernal names given to Satan in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible.)

The National Review article ends with a word to the wise:

"But the green charade must be fought, for it is intolerable that taxpayers should be asked to fund such objectives under the guise of aiding the poor and disadvantaged. The greens' philosophy has nothing to do with Judeo-Christian — or even simply humanitarian — principles. Their projects have no place in President Bush's Faith Based and Community Initiative."

[CCWoody]

As far as the availability of Speaking in Tongues, usually people ask for that gift. There have been times when it descended upon a person though who didn't ask for it. As far as trying to explain it, how do you explain the taste of a pear? Unless one has experienced something for oneself, understanding may remain elusive. ~ JudyB1938

I see that you have avoided answering the question. I did not ask how one receives the "gift of tongues". I simply asked if this gift was available to anyone?

The usual mantra that I hear goes something like this: "You don't have to speak in tongues, you get to speak in tongues." These pastors must hear this from somewhere and think that this is a terribly spiritual thing to say. The obvious implication is that unless you speak in tongues you are not very spiritual. Your post seems to have that same kind of smug Pentecostal attitude I often encounter.

What Pentecostals never ever stop to try and figure out is where in the Bible does it say that if you are a disciple of Christ then you get to speak in tongues.

Woody.

[Cvengr]

Switch a word here and there and you also have Satanism.

[RnMomof7]

B..that is NOT what that scripture says and you know it...


Is she the Mother of God the Father?

[Corin Stormhands]

Change a word here and there and you have Pentecostalism.

Nope. No snakes. Must have snakes...

[RnMomof7]

and they have to RATTLE...Hi Corin saw rings 2...Loved it

[Corin Stormhands]

;-)

Hi Mom. My son and I have seen The Two Towers 3 (or is it 4?) times...

[EternalVigilance]

"And He said to them, 'Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

And these signs shall follow those who believe; In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."

-Mark 16: 15-18

[EternalVigilance]

What Pentecostals never ever stop to try and figure out is where in the Bible does it say that if you are a disciple of Christ then you get to speak in tongues.

See above for one example.

[SierraWasp]

Hay! I like them snake handlin religuns! Ain't them the one's who has that snake flag that's yella and says... "Don't Tread On Me?"

Hot dang!!! This thread is screweier than a trainload of Holy Rollers just about ta be "raptured!" (or is that ruptured?)

Looks ta me like ya'all just about fergot the seriousness uv the "Born Again Pagans," in yer flamin each other over whose muther is the boss muther!!!

And funnier yet... Yer doin it right out in public on the Whirld Whide Whebb!!!

[Carry_Okie]

Here we go again:

Gaia was supposedly a Minoan earth goddess, adopted by a clearly wealthy, and reputedly earth-worshipping and pacifist civilization on Crete. Unfortu-nately, the popular beliefs about Minoan civilization largely represent the neurotic whimsy of Sir Arthur Evans, the first major excavator at Knossos. Evans was obsessed with proving that Minoan civilization had Aryan origins, and demonstrated a propensity to contort his observations in order to project upon them Druidic beliefs. Current evidence suggests that constantly warring Minoan city-states were overrun by Mycenean Greeks, perhaps after a nearby volcanic eruption. Maybe they had been weakened and their numbers were reduced. They did sometimes eat their children. One thing that we do know: They are no longer with us.

Some Deep Ecologists think that a consequence such as befell the Minoans might not be so bad. Such are adherents to the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (VHMT, pronounced “vehement”) or the Church of Euthanasia (whose central tenets are: Abortion, Sodomy, Cannibalism, and Suicide).

If a belief system has a flawed foundation in logic, a codified structure of beliefs, a hierarchy, icons, a personified supernatural deity, and spiritual rites, then it is equiv-alent to a religion whether it has a 501(c3) or not. If a religious body of belief starts to direct policy, it is equivalent to an establish-ment of religion capable of confounding all civic deliberation. Perhaps the only thing that keeps deep ecologists from being sued successfully is that they don’t have an office or a bank account.

These folks are on the power curve. Consider greed.

Together, environmental activists and agencies of the United States govern-ment have advocated a plan of human withdrawal and ecological inaction over 50% of the continental United States: The Wildlands Project. The plan is to set aside enormous “core reserves” with “connecting corridors” sur-rounded by “buffer zones.” The plan is being enacted over the objections of both landowners and many scientists. The published goal is to institute the plan, as soon as possible, nationwide, based upon the mere assumption that to withdraw human action constitutes preservation of natural resources. The real goal is resource land acquisition. There has been no fractional experiment with published expectations, established methods, or means of measuring relative success. There certainly has not been an experimental trial. The first indications are by no means promising and, because of the preconditions listed above, are subject to interpretation.

Source References #11 & 15

[B-Chan]

Is [Mary] the Mother of God the Father?

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me; and I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one." [John 10:27-30]

Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, `Show us the Father'? [John 14:9]

"..[H]ow is it that the Mother of the Lord [mater tou kyrios, mater tou Kyrios] comes to me?" (Luke 1:42-43).

Among the Jews the name of God was not spoken, but a substitution was made to preserve respect. By convention when translating Hebrew and its sister language Aramaic into Greek, such as in the Greek Old Testament   (Septuagint) used to evangelize Greek-speaking Jews and gentiles, the word substituted for God's name was Kyrios, Kyrios,, which we translate as "Lord". This was in lieu of I AM, Christ's use of which for Himself would later scandalized the Jews. Elizabeth... call[ed] the fruit of Mary's womb, "the Lord", with all the meaning which the Jews attributed to it and which the Catholic Church continues to understand of the Word-made-flesh in Mary's womb. [Source]

Which of the following statements is untrue, RnMom?

1. Our Lady, the Blessed Virgin Mary is the mother of Jesus.

2. Jesus is 100% God.

If you answered 1 or 2 or both, you are not a Christian. But if you believe that both are true, then you have to admit that Our Lady, the Blessed Virgin Mary is the mother of God. Logically, there's nowhere else to go.

There's just no way out of it. The Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mother of God. And, like any mother, she loves you, RnMom, very much, and wants to help you.

Why not let her?

[RnMomof7]

Does God have a mother or is He eternal? Are you a Mormon?

[PFKEY]

where's my popcorn...

Should be a scream!

[JudyB1938]

Sorry, Woody, I sure didn't appear to come across as smug. Nor did I realize I hadn't specifically answered your question.

The Gift of the Holy Spirit is available to anybody. I've read - but don't have the sources - that it's been known to occur in other Protestant dominations, as well in some Catholic churches.

However, not all people actually receive any particular gift that is listed in the NT, even if they ask. It's the Will of God, not ours. That's why I believe any Pentecostal person who says another person is not saved because they don't "speak in tongues" is in danger of judgement from God. They like to foister hellfire and brimstone on others, but they'd better look to their own souls!

The Bible says we will be punished if we don't use the talent(s) we are given - it does NOT say that we will go to hell because we don't speak in tongues. That talent is whatever ability we have been given to serve God - which might be considered insignificant by others, but considered very important by God. Otherwise, he wouldn't have assigned that niche.

The reason why there is such derision associated with this issue is because some people fail to obey Scripture. We are told, more or less, not to do it in public, but to confine it to our own personal use in private unless there is somebody there to interpret what is being said - otherwise people will look at us and think we're nuts.

I am sorry that I can't answer you better - but I am not a Biblical scholar, nor do I have the ability to express myself the way I wish I could.

It really upset me that I gave you the impression that I am smug. Why? Because I can't stand people like that either! They are hypocrites who WILL answer to God for the ones they kept from the Salvation our Lord Jesus Christ died on the Cross for.

If you are a Christian, you know what I mean. If you are not a Christian, I pray that the Holy Spirit be your constant companion and lead you to the Truth. Amen.

[PFKEY]

How does this jive with God being the alpha and omega?

And are we just playing a word game here?

What would the implications on salvation be in light of Mary being the mother of God? or any point/topic relating to a Christian.

[RnMomof7]

Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

Jer 44:17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. Jer 44:18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. Jer 44:19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?

The Queen of Heaven, if you check in most any commentary, is none other than Ishtar, Ashtoreth, or Astarte the very pagan goddess that Israel worshipped when they fell into apostasy and paganism-

[Robert A Cook PE]

Yep.

But, then again, that's all you have to change from worshiping God to worshipping the devil.

[F16Fighter]

"There's just no way out of it. The Blessed Virgin Mary is the mother of God."

If God always was, how then could Mary be the "Mother of God"?

BTW, with all due respect to Mary, she in fact was the human vessel that birthed the human Son of God in his form as man, Jesus Christ.

[cartoonistx]

Mary sleeps. Only Christ listens from Heaven. Pray only to the Father in His name. To believe anything else is to risk His wrath.

[B-Chan]

Does God have a mother or is He eternal?

Is Jesus God or just a man?

Are you a Mormon?

Are you a Jehovah's Witness?