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What was your favorite quote from the SOTU tonight?
January 28, 2003

Posted on 01/28/2003 9:02:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance

And why. Why do you believe in that particular quote? How does it affect conservatism? How does it affect our war on Terror? How does it affect 8 years of the previous socialist/communist state we were supposed to embrace?


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1 posted on 01/28/2003 9:02:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
We'll make our own decisions. (or something like that)
2 posted on 01/28/2003 9:05:13 PM PST by blam
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To: Indy Pendance
1. "We will not pass along our problems to other Congresses, other Presidents, other Nations." (Great jab at Clintoon...)

2. "If this tax cut is good for Americans, 3, 5, or 7 years from now, it is good for Americans today!"

3. The best way to address the deficit and move toward a balanced budget is to encourage economic growth and to show some spending discipline in Washington, D.C."

4. "Instead of bureaucrats and trial lawayers and HMOs, we must work put doctors and nurses and patients back in charge of American medicine."

5. "No one has ever been healed by a frivolous lawsuit"

6. "... a SECURE Israel and a DEMOCRATIC Palestine..."

7. "One by one, the terrorists are learning the meaning of American justice!"

8. "Free people will set the course of history."

9. "America's purpose is more than to follow a process. It is to achieve a result."

10. "America will not be blackmailed!"

11. "108 UN inspectors were not sent [to Iraq] for scavanger hunt."

12. "For the brave and oppressed people of Iraq, your enemy is not surrounding your country. Your enemy is ruling your country. And the day he and his regime are removed from power will be the day of your liberation."

13. My personal favorite: "The course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of others."

3 posted on 01/28/2003 9:08:19 PM PST by Fraulein
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To: Indy Pendance
Probably off-topic on this thread, but I loved William Bennett's question to Alan Colmes on H&C. Colmes was defending Susan Sarandon's anti-war bleatings, noting that her question "What did Iraq ever do to us?" had not been answered.

Bennett retorted, "Well, what did Hitler ever do to us?"

4 posted on 01/28/2003 9:08:34 PM PST by strela (You could look it up ...)
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To: Indy Pendance

What was your favorite quote from the SOTU tonight?
January 28, 2003

Posted on 01/28/2003 9:02 PM PST by Indy Pendance

And why. Why do you believe in that particular quote? How does it affect conservatism? How does it affect our war on Terror? How does it affect 8 years of the previous socialist/communist state we were supposed to embrace?

All that's missing is your requirement that the answer be at least 1,000 words.

5 posted on 01/28/2003 9:10:03 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: strela
There were so many, but I think one of the most powerful was the statement to the people of Iraq:

"Your enemy isn't surrounding your country. Your enemy is ruling your country."

6 posted on 01/28/2003 9:11:32 PM PST by sweetliberty (Go Al, go!)
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To: everyone
"And tonight I have a message for the brave and oppressed people of Iraq: Your enemy is not surrounding your country - your enemy is ruling your country. And the day he and his regime are removed from power will be the day of your liberation."

"Tonight I also have a message for the men and women who will keep the peace, members of the American Armed Forces: Many of you are assembling in and near the Middle East, and some crucial hours may lie ahead. In those hours, the success of our cause will depend on you. Your training has prepared you. Your honor will guide you. You believe in America, and America believes in you."


HOOAH! Mr. President. Well said.
7 posted on 01/28/2003 9:11:45 PM PST by txradioguy (Doing my part to keep the country free)
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To: strela
HOMERUN Bennett!!! LOL!

MY favorite SOTU quote (Paraphrased as I don't remember it exactly :
"To date we have captured # Al Quida terrorists and many others have, well let's just say they won't be a threat to America anymore"

8 posted on 01/28/2003 9:12:04 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Indy Pendance
"Whatever action is required, whenever action is necessary, I will defend the freedom and security of the American people."

How can ANYONE who is not a brain-damaged RAT doubt this man's leadership?
9 posted on 01/28/2003 9:13:29 PM PST by nhoward14 (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' while you look for a rock.)
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To: commish
OK here is the exact quote

"All told, more than 3,000 suspected terrorists have been arrested in many countries. Many others have met a different fate. Let's put it this way -- they are no longer a problem to the United States and our friends and allies."

10 posted on 01/28/2003 9:13:43 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Indy Pendance
I'll start:

"The first thing we do," said the character in Shakespeare's Henry VI, is "kill all the lawyers."

We need tort reform. I like to call it lawyer reform. The high cost of everything can be directly attributed to lawyers. Think, what hasn't been sued. And as GWB stated tonight, 'no one was healed from a frivolous law suit'

That resonated with the people. Not the Washington big-wigs, but us. Normal everyday people going about our daily lives and wondering why our insurance company needs 43 pieces of paperwork to get an ear infection cured. The current situation health care isn't about socalizing medicine, it's letting doctors practice medicine. Let them be doctors. They will make mistakes. There human. Unfortunatly, people will die while under a doctors' care. Does the general population really think a doctor wants their patient to die or to have medical problems for the rest of their lives?

Let me go to MY doctor, and get treatment.

Tort reform should apply to all industies.

11 posted on 01/28/2003 9:13:59 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
I loved that speech. I rate it along side the Gipper's best. Heartfelt and right to the point. Wow! I start getting watery eyes just thinking about it. God Bless President Bush. Eight years of Clinton was worth enduring to have somebody this good at the top.
12 posted on 01/28/2003 9:14:32 PM PST by Russell Scott
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To: Indy Pendance
"The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity."

Why? Because it echoes the words of the founders of this nation - all men are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights - and anchors the morality of what this Commander in Chief is prepared to do.

13 posted on 01/28/2003 9:15:50 PM PST by dittomom (God Bless President George W. Bush!)
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To: Indy Pendance
"HYDROGEN"


14 posted on 01/28/2003 9:16:30 PM PST by Jackie
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To: hole_n_one
For you, you are allowed 14. No more, no less. ;)

I've read a lot of threads on this forum, a lot. I'd like to hear logical opinions, not one line retorts that are cute.

15 posted on 01/28/2003 9:17:07 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
"We seek peace. We strive for peace. And sometimes peace must be defended. A future lived at the mercy of terrible threats is no peace at all."

"If war is forced upon us, we will fight in a just cause and by just means, sparing, in every way we can, the innocent."

"And if war is forced upon us, we will fight with the full force and might of the United States military, and we will prevail."

16 posted on 01/28/2003 9:17:48 PM PST by Spunky
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To: Fraulein
Thanks, why is the last your favorite? What made it stand out above the other?
17 posted on 01/28/2003 9:17:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Russell Scott
My favorite speech of all time was the Gettysburg Address until this evening. I am still numb from it. I haven't been moved so much in a long time.
18 posted on 01/28/2003 9:19:25 PM PST by nhoward14 (If that isn't evil, I don't know what is.)
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To: strela
Thanks, it's not off topic, but not quite there. If you want to elaborate, please, I'd love to hear your opinions. Like I said before, I'd like to hear logical opinions, why did this strike you as important? How does this relate to the current administration and the near future political implications?
19 posted on 01/28/2003 9:20:45 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: hole_n_one
All that's missing is your requirement that the answer be at least 1,000 words.

LOL. I'm turning in my post velobound with clear protective sheets in the fron and back. That means its official!

20 posted on 01/28/2003 9:21:05 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
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21 posted on 01/28/2003 9:21:23 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: Indy Pendance

22 posted on 01/28/2003 9:23:18 PM PST by deport (They are no longer a problem to the United States)
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To: Indy Pendance
God, I loved that speech.

But the one thing I didn't like was:

"We are doing everything we can to stop the terrorist threats"

I don't think that is really the case, especially regarding the borders.
23 posted on 01/28/2003 9:23:37 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: Indy Pendance
I think it's important because it shows the misguided thinking that most liberals have. It's that "why should we attack them? What have they ever done to me personally? Who am I to impose my will on someone else?" kind of backwards thinking that sickens me. Bennett was simply trying to point out where we'd be today if we'd thought that way about Hitler in WW II.
24 posted on 01/28/2003 9:25:01 PM PST by txradioguy (Doing my part to keep the country free)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Conspicous by its absence was any mention of illegal immigration or our borders, I think that rates up there in priorities above aids in Africa...
25 posted on 01/28/2003 9:26:56 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: dittomom
I knew there was a reason I stuck that into my signature block, immediately.

You hit it right on the head, it is god given rights and no one, no governmnet, can take them away as longas I am ready to defend them.

Does that make them fighting words?

26 posted on 01/28/2003 9:27:55 PM PST by dts32041
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To: Indy Pendance
I've already taken it as a tag line!
27 posted on 01/28/2003 9:28:46 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter ("THE LIBERTY WE PRIZE IS NOT AMERICA'S GIFT TO THE WORLD, IT IS GOD'S GIFT TO HUMANITY.")
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To: dittomom
Ditto for me, dittomom!
28 posted on 01/28/2003 9:30:12 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: nhoward14
Whatever action is required, whenever action is necessary, I will defend the freedom and security of the American people."

Except, I hope, for swallowing them up with silly pretenses, such as that our non-profiling politically correct airline "security" system will stop anyone who really puts his mind to creating havoc in our passenger skies.

29 posted on 01/28/2003 9:30:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: sweetliberty
"Your enemy isn't surrounding your country. Your enemy is ruling your country."

Why was that your favorite? How did that impact you?

30 posted on 01/28/2003 9:30:17 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: nhoward14
"It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us--that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion--that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the Earth."

President Lincoln could have been talking about September 11th here. The truly transcendent speeches are timeless. Tonight's speech was wonderful, but the format of a SOTU somewhat ties its content to specifics, making it somewhat less powerful later on, read out of context. It was exceptionally well-delivered, however. And for a SOTU, it was pitch-perfect.

31 posted on 01/28/2003 9:30:55 PM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell (I'm against tags -- that is, I'm antagonistic.)
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To: txradioguy
"And tonight I have a message for the brave and oppressed people of Iraq: Your enemy is not surrounding your country - your enemy is ruling your country. And the day he and his regime are removed from power will be the day of your liberation." "Tonight I also have a message for the men and women who will keep the peace, members of the American Armed Forces: Many of you are assembling in and near the Middle East, and some crucial hours may lie ahead. In those hours, the success of our cause will depend on you. Your training has prepared you. Your honor will guide you. You believe in America, and America believes in you."

Yes, that was well stated, hooray! Why? What was it that that particular quote meant to you?

32 posted on 01/28/2003 9:33:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
I'd like to hear logical opinions, why did this strike you as important?

(Assuming "this" is the Sarandon question and Bennett's response to it)

I felt that Bennett's question was an important adjunct to Bush's masterstroke of a speech tonight. Masterful in itself, Bennett's question will help most thinking people really understand for the first time why tyrants like Saddam need to be slapped down before they acquire the power and lethality of a Hitler. I firmly believe that Saddam tried to make Kuwait his Sudetenland, and would have succeeded if not for the coalition led by America.

In the arena of public opinion, I am optimistic that Powell's presentation of evidence to the UN on February 5 will be the straw that breaks the back of the burgeoning anti-war movement in the US today. Oh, the Martin Sheens and Susan Sarandons will continue to yammer that we are being big bullies bombing innocent Iraqi children, but I believe that public support for the war will again be at Desert Storm levels after November 5. And, Bennett's simple little question to Alan Colmes will be the foot in the door.

33 posted on 01/28/2003 9:34:36 PM PST by strela (You could look it up ...)
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To: commish
"To date we have captured # Al Quida terrorists and many others have, well let's just say they won't be a threat to America anymore"

Why was that your favorite, what was it that hit your heart?

34 posted on 01/28/2003 9:35:15 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: commish
my fav also,suzyq
35 posted on 01/28/2003 9:35:55 PM PST by suzyq5558 (i love our President!!)
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To: nhoward14
"Whatever action is required, whenever action is necessary, I will defend the freedom and security of the American people."

What struck you, what was it that stood out on that particular quote that made you respond to this tread?

36 posted on 01/28/2003 9:37:18 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
I don't expect the entire SOTU to become as widely known as the entire G address is known, but there are plenty of lines that can be pulled out and made into little snippets that explain what America is really about.

The sad thing is that as long as the RATs control our education systems, the likelihood of later generations learning the wisdom presented tonight is limited. Only those few with involved parents of the correct mindset will be privy to it.
37 posted on 01/28/2003 9:38:02 PM PST by nhoward14 (If that isn't evil, I don't know what is. - President Bush)
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To: commish
And why. Why do you believe in that particular quote? How does it affect conservatism? How does it affect our war on Terror? How does it affect 8 years of the
previous socialist/communist state we were supposed to embrace?
38 posted on 01/28/2003 9:38:09 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
I think it sent a clear message to the people of Iraq that our war is not against you it is FOR you. That our quarrel is with the despot that rules your country. That we want you, the Iraqi people to live in the same fredom that American's live in. The military quote makes my eyes water everytime I read it. I started in the military when Clinton came into office and I saw what he did to take it apart. That subtle message to the troops shows that Bush understands that the sacrifice we make to do what we do isn't an easy one and that despite what's being spewed in the media, America DOES support us and appreciates what we as soldiers are doing.
39 posted on 01/28/2003 9:38:23 PM PST by txradioguy (Doing my part to keep the country free)
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To: dittomom
Thank you. You're the first one who actually read the thread and responded. Do you not get tired of the one line snipets that are supposed to pass for thoughtful analysis?
40 posted on 01/28/2003 9:41:00 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
It just put the reality in such clear terms. It was like it was a challenge directly to the Iraqi people (although I'm not sure how many would actually have the opportunity to hear it), but in an indirect way it stated a powerful truth for the benefit of Americans who just don't get it.

Also, in the frame of reference when he was talking about the way children were tortured in front of their parents and all the horrors committed upon his own people, I don't know about anybody else, but what was running through my mind was the thought of "what if WE had such a tyrant in power" and I thought about our own children and loved ones and how precious each life is and it made me hope that those who are against war at all costs, or worse, against the president no matter what he does, would get a little bit of that vision and realize that peace sometimes comes at a high price and until Saddam is removed, there is no peace for the Iraqi people.

41 posted on 01/28/2003 9:41:07 PM PST by sweetliberty (Go Al, go!)
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peroxide
42 posted on 01/28/2003 9:41:17 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: strela
I thought of some lines that could have been used tonight:

"The fundamental problem with waiting for the so-called 'smoking gun' is that by the time you smell the smoke, the bullet has already hit you. That is the threat before us today, only instead of bullets, we have the very real threat of Anthrax, VX, botulinum toxin, and quite possibly, Smallpox. And I, as your President, can not afford to, can not in good conscience, wait for our enemies to bring this battle to our shores."

43 posted on 01/28/2003 9:42:07 PM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell (I'm against tags -- that is, I'm antagonistic.)
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To: strela
but I believe that public support for the war will again be at Desert Storm levels after November 5.

That would be February 5, of course. Friends don't let friends dyslex ...

44 posted on 01/28/2003 9:43:39 PM PST by strela (You could look it up ...)
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To: strela
Thank you. That is exactly what I was looking for. Aren't you weary of the one line quips that pass for analysis on this forum? We need to express ourselves in a logical and consise manner to succeed. Thanks so much.
45 posted on 01/28/2003 9:45:14 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: nhoward14
Whatever action is required, whenever action is necessary, I will defend the freedom and security of the American people.

I picked this quote as well. I think there is a lot of wisdom in these words and I think it explains the main difference between the Pubs and the Anti war groups.

To conservatives, freedom and security are worth fighting for. To the Anti's, peace is the primary objective at the expense of freedom and security.

46 posted on 01/28/2003 9:45:27 PM PST by Balata
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To: Indy Pendance; PsyOps; hchutch; weikel
"Yet the course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of others. Whatever action is required, whenever action is necessary, I will defend the freedom and security of the American people." George W. Bush

GRAND MOFF RUMSFELD: Make ready to land our troops beyond the energy shield and deploy the fleet so that nothing gets off the Iraqi system. You are in command now, General Franks!

GENERAL FRANKS: All troops will debark for ground assault. Prepare to target the main generator.

47 posted on 01/28/2003 9:45:48 PM PST by Senator_Palpatine
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To: Indy Pendance
You're welcome and yes, by all means!

Seriously, I think this president has a true sense of history and an understanding of what it means to be an American. I respect and honor him for that because it is such a contrast from the previous occupant of the White House.

48 posted on 01/28/2003 9:46:14 PM PST by dittomom (God Bless President George W. Bush!)
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To: Indy Pendance
How does it affect 8 years of the previous socialist/communist state we were supposed to embrace?

Huh?

number 10?

49 posted on 01/28/2003 9:48:25 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: txradioguy
Excellent. You do know that lots of folks read FR, national media, like Fox news, Rush, etc. You just upped the notch at tad. And welcome to FR. Remember, there are lots of intelligent people here. Don't let the others pull you down.
50 posted on 01/28/2003 9:48:27 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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