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Poll: Support for Iraq War Still Strong
foxnews ^ | February 21, 2003

Posted on 02/21/2003 3:27:15 PM PST by Indy Pendance

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON Public support for eventual military action against Iraq remains strong, but the number of people who think the United States doesn't have enough international support yet for such military action is growing, says a new poll.

Nearly six in 10 Americans, 57 percent, say the United States should get a second U.N. resolution before attacking Iraq, and about the same number, 58 percent, say this country does not currently have enough international support for such an attack. These are the findings of a poll released Thursday by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press.


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1 posted on 02/21/2003 3:27:15 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
was at 66 percent, but that tends to drop in polls when people are asked about attacking without allied backing. Polls show a majority approves of military action as long as this country has the support of major allies.

We have the support of most European allies. 16 out of 19 NATO country allies, Japan, Australia, and a host of other nations - we know the drill ... To imply otherwise is POLLAGANDA.

2 posted on 02/21/2003 3:35:12 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Indy Pendance
A MUST READ to debate the question where were the anti-war activists in 1998.
TEXT OF THE PRESIDENT'S BRIEFING ON IRAQI AIRSTRIKES.
3 posted on 02/21/2003 3:35:32 PM PST by fivetoes (God Bless our Troops)
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To: All
OK....ONE MORE TIME.....

WHO has joined the ALLIES FOR LIBERTY & FREEDOM?

THESE ARE the 29 ALLIES for IRAQI people’s (women & children included) FREEDOM

U.S., Britian, Australia, Spain, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Italy, Portugal, Armenia, Lithuania

Slovakia, Denmark, Czech Republic, Quatar, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Albania, Kuwait, Israel, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia, Macedonia, Croatia, Azerbaijan, Georgia Republic, Marshall Islands and Japan

FREE the IRAQI people!!!

What OTHER countries want the IRAQI citizens FREEDOM?
ARMENIA
AZERBAIJAN GEORGIA Republic
MARSHALL ISLANDS
goodnesswins, with technical assistance from abner

4 posted on 02/21/2003 3:39:02 PM PST by goodnesswins (Thank the Military for your freedom and security....and thank a Rich person for jobs.)
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To: WOSG
"POLLAGANDA"

LOL. I'm adding it to my lexicon.
5 posted on 02/21/2003 3:39:44 PM PST by Once-Ler (I vote Dubya)
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To: goodnesswins
No, no wait! But the peaceniks say we're going it ALONE! This can't be!

It's good to see we have so many nations backing us up.
6 posted on 02/21/2003 3:47:07 PM PST by GiveEmDubya
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To: Indy Pendance
I think this anti-war sentiment is a product of the extreme-left and the mass media. I'm hard pressed to find people against the war in Iraq and I live in Massachusetts - where only 99.97% of the population are cold-hearted conservatives.
7 posted on 02/21/2003 4:02:36 PM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine tastes better - boycott French wine!)
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To: goodnesswins; Once-Ler; GiveEmDubya
There was a very good article in the Wall Street Journal today about Spain (and another one about Britain) and the personal risks that Aznar and Blair are taking for doing the right thing. I hope we give big support to these guys.

Actually, Gov. Bush of Florida is in Spain right now talking about trade agreements, and I'm sure the British are going to be appropriately rewarded, too. (Naturally, in the case of both Britain and Spain, the "intellectuals" hate us, but who cares about a bunch of movie actors and burned-out college professors, anyway?)
8 posted on 02/21/2003 4:03:30 PM PST by livius
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To: Indy Pendance
I'll bet this has taught this president and every other future Republican president to NEVER listen to what the left has to say. They will strike at our heals, but we will eventually crush their heads.
9 posted on 02/21/2003 4:07:46 PM PST by concerned about politics (Stop Taxpayer Supported Socialist Indoctrinatin... Support School Choice ..Demand it.)
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To: WOSG
We have the support of most European allies... To imply otherwise is POLLAGANDA.

I don't think it's "pollaganda" so much as it is an illustration of the limitations of using public perceptions to determine policy. The poll tells us that "58 percent say this country does not currently have enough international support." But who are these people, and what do they know? If we went to their houses and gave them a quiz, could they name five countries that support the U.S., or are these yahoos who heard Dan Rather tell them that "Bush is going alone" and honestly think that is the case?

It makes a difference. To hear some of these demagogues tell it, foreign policy should be determined by every change in the weather pattern exhibited by people who make very little effort to know what they're talking about.

Pew is a leftist stooge outfit anyway. It pisses me off that they would even report a finding like that. They know damned well that half the people who answered that question don't have a clue which countries support the U.S., and which don't.


10 posted on 02/21/2003 4:17:41 PM PST by Nick Danger (Freeps Ahoy! Caribbean cruise May 31... from $610 http://www.freeper.org)
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To: Indy Pendance; All
You folks might be interested in this thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/848341/posts
12 posted on 02/21/2003 4:22:06 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: goodnesswins
It's ironic that most of the nations that are with us are those most recently free from communist totalitarianism, while those that are against us are trying to re-invent communism.
13 posted on 02/21/2003 4:25:20 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: Indy Pendance
Images by Registered

Click on the Peace Sign!

14 posted on 02/21/2003 4:49:35 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (In those days... Every man did that which was right in his own eyes.)
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To: Attila Flagellum Dei
That's a good question....let's start a list of countries of the world and how much aid they get from the good ole' US.....just tell me the countries and Numbers and I'll make the list.... (It'll be long)
15 posted on 02/21/2003 4:57:21 PM PST by goodnesswins (Thank the Military for your freedom and security....and thank a Rich person for jobs.)
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To: Indy Pendance
"Nearly six in 10 Americans, 57 percent, say the United States should get a second U.N. resolution before attacking Iraq,.."

Right. Isn't that about the same percentage that thinks that foreign policy doesn't matter when choosing a president? Chances are good those 6 in 10 have no basis for forming an opinion either way.

16 posted on 02/21/2003 5:06:17 PM PST by Paulie
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To: goodnesswins
Don't confuse everyone with the facts. The Dems and elite media say we are going in unilaterally don't you know?
17 posted on 02/21/2003 5:13:51 PM PST by RJayneJ
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To: Indy Pendance
"The number of people who are basically backing support hasn't changed," Kohut said, "but concerns about the big qualification of international support have."

Since we already HAVE international support, and France and Germany are the only two holdouts (Russia wants more oil, and China just wants to be a pain) I'd say the media propaganda must be working.

18 posted on 02/21/2003 5:22:20 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: goodnesswins
You go right ahead and post your flag bomb as often as you want! It's surprising how few FReepers even know the extent of the coalition of the willing.
19 posted on 02/21/2003 5:30:28 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: cake_crumb
It's surprising how few FReepers even know the extent of the coalition of the willing.

I think if Bush started the liberation of Iraq tonight America would still be behind him.
This poll asks a few questons that are minor in the bigger sceme of things. If the question was "Should Bush start the liberation of Iraq now?" The answer would be a "Well, sure." And he rest wouldn't really matter that much.

21 posted on 02/21/2003 5:38:26 PM PST by concerned about politics (Stop Taxpayer Supported Socialist Indoctrinatin... Support School Choice ..Demand it.)
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To: SamAdams76
Same here. I wonder how many of those peaceniks came down from Canada? Or how many belong to the envirowackos who stormed Seattle?
23 posted on 02/21/2003 5:52:04 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: concerned about politics
Reagan was vilified by the media, and the europeons protested him unmercifully. He didn't listen to them then. Liberals absolutely hate conservativism and will ignore any good policy if it is presented by conservatives.
24 posted on 02/21/2003 5:55:34 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: concerned about politics
"If the question was 'Should Bush start the liberation of Iraq now?' The answer would be a 'Well, sure.' And he rest wouldn't really matter that much."

That's a darned good point. They sure wouldn't ask such a question now, when the public is aware of Saddam's illegal missiles.

25 posted on 02/21/2003 5:57:27 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: seamole
All excellent questions. Just having them asked would unstick a lot of stuck mental gears.
26 posted on 02/21/2003 6:22:21 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: seamole
bravo!!
bravo!!
27 posted on 02/21/2003 6:29:43 PM PST by USMC_tangocharlie (Victory belongs to the man who wants it the most, and believes in it the longest.)
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To: Attila Flagellum Dei
Which ones of these countries does not depend on US aid ?

Hmmmm... a fair question.

But an objective questioner would also ask, which of the nay-saying coutries -- France, Germany, Belgium, Russia and China -- doesn't do business with Iraq.

Your above post is not objective.

28 posted on 02/21/2003 6:43:57 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Nick Danger
I don't think it's "pollaganda" so much as it is an illustration of the limitations of using public perceptions to determine policy.

It sounds like you automatically trust that this poll was done fairly. Who paid for this PEW poll? What does it mean, that this poll "was carried out with the Council on Foreign Relations"?.

29 posted on 02/21/2003 6:49:58 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: goodnesswins
February 2003
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30 posted on 02/21/2003 6:53:37 PM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FreeReign
See what ya get for writing before you read?
31 posted on 02/21/2003 7:01:23 PM PST by Nick Danger (Freeps Ahoy! Caribbean cruise May 31... from $610 http://www.freeper.org)
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To: Indy Pendance
It's ALL about OIL!!!
32 posted on 02/21/2003 7:12:28 PM PST by sam_paine
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To: sam_paine
Check this out.

France, Germany protect Iraq ties

33 posted on 02/21/2003 7:16:36 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Amazing to think the polls are still in favor of this considering all of the news I hear says just the opposite. If I didn't know better, I'd think there was a propaganda campaign going against the President, but of course that can't be, the news is not biased afterall. (sarcasm, of course)

34 posted on 02/21/2003 7:19:39 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred
There are alternative sources of media nowdays. Look at us! People are waking up. ABC and all are not the big boys anymore. Fox is cleaning up with news on television. Rush is the number radio personality in the country. The liberals have finally lost their monolopy, and it shows. Look at how desperate they are. They do not have a vision. They are still in the blame game.

Actions speak louder than words.

35 posted on 02/21/2003 7:26:23 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
"poll of 1,254 adults"

Screw PEW

36 posted on 02/21/2003 7:28:56 PM PST by BobS
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To: Indy Pendance
I am thrilled that they are desperate! You are right, it shows with all of their hysterical spewing out of the media these days. Rush was right, they are funny when they are out of power! Liberal talk radio has never been successful, and I doubt if it ever will be.
37 posted on 02/21/2003 7:53:11 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: Indy Pendance
"drop in percent polls when people are asked about attacking without allied backing"

This "drop" in support is directly related to the press (and demacRAT party's) latest attempt to perpetrate another lie on the American people. Namely, that we are considering "going it alone" into Iraq, or how about "the American people don't want to go it alone" . How many times have you heard these words used by the press? It's a lie. How much coverage was given to the letter in the Wall Street Journal signed by all the countries who are with us? Answer: Not much. The press mentioned the letter breifly, but they have continued to use the "go it alone " and "unilateral " terms in their reports on public support.

The question in the poll is false. It asked weather we should go WITH OUT ALLIES and of course many of the American people said no. THE QUESTION GIVES THE FALSE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAVE NO ALLIES. Then it aks about another UN resolution, wich people assume is about gaining allies. What our people are confused about, is weather we have allies or not.

If I were President Bush and his staff , I would make a concerted effort to explain to the American people that WE HAVE ALLIES WITH OR WITHOUT THE UN. For example: any time a reporter tries to use the term "go it alone" (or some term like this) President Bush should stop him and repeat the names of the countries that are with us . He could send his staff members out to the mainstream press outlets and cable and read have them read the WSJ letter again or he could just say, "the press is trying to give the impression we don't have allies; this is not true. We have (repeat the entire list of countries who have pleged their support)" at various press conferences and public appearences, until people get it. Everyone on his staff should have the names of the countries that support us memorized so they can immediately respond when the press tries the "going it alone " impression. It should be made clear that the UN is representative of the "axis of weasles". Our people should be reminded of things like the UN has Syria in charge of Human Rights (and that Syria has HUGE Human rights violations) while we were kicked off the commission, and that they are planning on putting Iraq in charge of disarming itself. But it is most important to clear up the confusion between who our allies are(that we have them), and UN support,make it clear these are 2 different things.

38 posted on 02/21/2003 8:00:26 PM PST by fly_so_free (demacrat /socialist /communist/traitor=same thing)
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To: seamole
That's my kind of poll!!!

also how about:

"Do you think ex-Presidents or the current President should direct our foreign policy?"

"Do you Saddam Hussein draws comfort from protests opposing a war against the Iraqi regime?"
39 posted on 02/21/2003 8:39:09 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Attila Flagellum Dei
Most of eastern Europe and certainly the UK, Spain, Italy, Japan and a host of others do NOT get US foreign aid. YEt they are with us.

OTOH, *unhelpful* countries that we *do* fund like Pakistan, Mexico, Egypt, and several African nations are aligning with the Axis of Weasels.

And I heard on news today we are continuing food aid to NORTH KOREA. Oh joy.

Go figure!
40 posted on 02/21/2003 8:43:30 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Attila Flagellum Dei
..which ones of these countries does not depend on US aid ?...

Australia, Britain, Spain, and probably several more on the list.

41 posted on 02/21/2003 9:03:35 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Nick Danger
See what ya get for writing before you read?

What?

42 posted on 02/21/2003 9:15:16 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: All
These polls tick me off royally.

As someone else pointed out the questions give the impression that we are literally doing this alone. If I were a Brit, I would be pissed! Secondly, if you ask me honestly, I would love one last good U.N. resolution to demonstrate further the bankruptcy of the anit-war Left.

But the worst thing is this crap about a "second resolution." We are now on Resolution #17!!!!! So why isn't the debate about an "18th resolution?????" Is it because to label this honestly would make people go "HMMMMM?"

43 posted on 02/21/2003 10:39:51 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: goodnesswins; DoughtyOne
If these sheeple had your great posting and DO's summaries, they might change their minds re the lie that we are going it alone.
44 posted on 02/22/2003 6:33:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Indy Pendance
Nearly six in 10 Americans, 57 percent, say the United States should get a second U.N. resolution

Tow problems with the word should. The first is it isn't MUST. I might think we should get a UN resolution but it doesn't mean its a prerequiste.

Secondly, the word "should" can be intrepreted in another way. As in, the UN "should" give a second resolution because it would be nuts not to.

45 posted on 02/22/2003 9:07:38 AM PST by VRWC_minion ( Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: goodnesswins
If we add China to the list would we get a majority in population ?
46 posted on 02/22/2003 9:08:34 AM PST by VRWC_minion ( Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: SamAdams76
"But the number of people who believe Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had any connection with terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 dropped from 66 percent in October to 57 percent now."

57%, according to a poll that claims surprising support for Blix. Something is wrong with this poll. It doesn't add up. Finding people who both admire and respect Blix yet think that Saddam was involved with 9-11? How often do you run into that kind of person?

Even these questionable numbers, however, speak of a powerful mandate for Bush to whip it out and douse Iraq with yellow koolaid if he wanted.

47 posted on 02/22/2003 3:43:37 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (LIBERTY or DEATH!)
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To: Lysandru
But the worst thing is this crap about a "second resolution." We are now on Resolution #17!!!!! So why isn't the debate about an "18th resolution?????" Is it because to label this honestly would make people go "HMMMMM?"

I hadn't thought of it that way. Brain wakes up again. LOL.

48 posted on 02/22/2003 3:46:49 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (LIBERTY or DEATH!)
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To: goodnesswins
Your visual graphics make it crystal clear. But there's only one flag of support the US truly needs if those 57% are correct about Saddam's bin laden connection-- OUR OWN! Help is apprectiated, especially from the Brits. The Aussies have a personal ax to grind, and we should respect that too. But the truth is, DEATH TO AL QUEDA SUPPORTERS! Not for the sake of the Iraqis. Liberation? Fine. But that is just icing on the cake. KILL SADDAM. KILL THE BHATH PARTY! KILL HIS VIPER SON! Exhile doesn't cut it. Political prison doesn't cut it. Nothing cuts it but death.
49 posted on 02/22/2003 3:53:58 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (LIBERTY or DEATH!)
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