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SCOTUS strikes down Texas sodomy ban
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Posted on 06/26/2003 7:08:23 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo

SCOTUS sided with the perverts.


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To: JudgemAll
That was the case before the court decision. Sodomization of a woman by her husband was legal in Texas.
301 posted on 06/26/2003 8:35:18 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: sinkspur
Why would your sister marry a deviant?

You mean why would a deviant hide his deviance?

302 posted on 06/26/2003 8:36:12 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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To: Thane_Banquo; Prof Engineer
ping

sick, just sick.
303 posted on 06/26/2003 8:36:37 AM PDT by msdrby (I do believe the cheese slid off his cracker! - The Green Mile)
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To: LizardQueen
That's crap. *Unconsensual* sodomy is assault and grounds for divorce. The hard part is proving it.

If sodomy is an accepted form of sex, sodomy is then mandatory to consume the marriage. End of story.

304 posted on 06/26/2003 8:36:37 AM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: Thane_Banquo
from Kennedy's opinion:

The present case does not involve minors. It does not involve persons who might be injured or coerced or who are situated in relationships where consent might not easily be refused. It does not involve public conduct or prostitution. It does not involve whether the government must give formal recognition to any relationship that homosexual persons seek to enter.

305 posted on 06/26/2003 8:36:39 AM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: BlackjackHF
"Maybe the fact that we live in a democracy?"

Wrong.

Idiots.
306 posted on 06/26/2003 8:36:41 AM PDT by toothless (I AM A MAN)
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To: Lazamataz
Libertarians make people's cars dirty.

Thats not neccessarily true. The guy who washes my car is a Libertarian, however, the car hasn't been running all that well, I wonder if he has been sodomizing the exhaust pipe...

307 posted on 06/26/2003 8:37:03 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: HumanaeVitae
Libertarians aren't friends of democracy. In fact, when democracy gets in the way of their childish predelictions, they're more than happy to mow it over with their Toro YardMaster and then stuff the clippings from the bag in their bongs.

Actually, you should familiarize yourself with the Bill of Rights.

It is equally dismissive of “democracy” for the same good reasons.

308 posted on 06/26/2003 8:37:04 AM PDT by dead
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To: Lazamataz
disgusting and throw them all.........
309 posted on 06/26/2003 8:37:25 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: discostu
This shouldn't have any effect on sodomy laws that cover gays and straights.

It did. It wasn't on equal protection basis.

310 posted on 06/26/2003 8:37:27 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: BaghdadBarney
"Rape is a crime but what about sexual relationship involving "willing" 24 year old male and his "consenting" 21 year old sister? Under this silly ruling this little foray is a-OK by my reading."

Could be, but when was the last time you heard of an arrest in such a case? There's a _lot_ of simbling incest going on out there, but nobody's getting arrested if the people are adults.

And if you don't think it's happening, you're way wrong. I can guarantee that there is a brother and sister relationship somewhere within a mile or two of you.

Again, when was the last arrest for such a thing you can remember?
311 posted on 06/26/2003 8:37:37 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Under the Radar
Absolutely correct UTR. I don't expect a response from my interlocutor on that one.
313 posted on 06/26/2003 8:38:00 AM PDT by HumanaeVitae (Catholic Epimethean)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
One must draw lines and draw them somewhere. A married couple taking risks is different than homosexuals with less scruples than Fido.
314 posted on 06/26/2003 8:38:08 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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To: HumanaeVitae
It only appears to discriminate if you buy the lie that a group of people who desire something are somehow set appart from everyone else, and therefore a kind of minority group that can be deprived their equal protections.

Look for Torie to be all over FR today issuing his "I'd like to thank the Academy" speeches. Gag!

315 posted on 06/26/2003 8:38:48 AM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Labyrinthos
Wrong. Kennedy.
316 posted on 06/26/2003 8:38:55 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: Thane_Banquo
Chalk up another victory for the perverts. The SCOTUS is totally out of control.
317 posted on 06/26/2003 8:38:55 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: jethropalerobber
http://scotus.ap.org/scotus/02-102p.zo.pdf
318 posted on 06/26/2003 8:39:17 AM PDT by Carlucci (The Time Travelers meeting will be held Yesterday!)
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To: LanPB01
How many Libertarians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

(I don't know the answer...does anyone else? This is a series query...)

319 posted on 06/26/2003 8:39:51 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: JudgemAll
>Libertarians stole my hubcaps.

Biggots abound.

Libertarians can't spell!

320 posted on 06/26/2003 8:39:51 AM PDT by Spiff (Liberalism is a mental illness - a precursor disease to terminal Socialism.)
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To: Elsie
What part of ...are reserved to the states respectively... do you NOT understand?

What part of "to the people" do you not understand? Are you saying the states have the right to make laws regulating anything? Perhaps a law on hair color? Or on how many kids you may have?

If there's no limit on state power we live in a tyranny, albeit a little closer than D.C.

321 posted on 06/26/2003 8:39:51 AM PDT by jimt
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Homosexuals do not want privacy, I live across the street from a pair that like to exibit their depravity to the neighborhood kids in front of their picture window."

Call the police, then. Indecent exposure is against the law. Or do you mean that they're kissing and stuff? If they're exposing their privates or having sex in the open window, then they can be arrested, just as you could if you were doing the same thing in front of an open window.

If they're not actually having sex in the window, but are just displaying affection, you may well be offended, but you have no recourse under the law.
322 posted on 06/26/2003 8:40:09 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: JustAnAmerican
I will wait for the section of this that says this applies to "Grown-ups" only. Let me know when you find it.

see post #305

323 posted on 06/26/2003 8:41:36 AM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: TLBSHOW
disgusting and throw them all.........

What, in jail?

We'll see if you're laughing when they come for the obese.
324 posted on 06/26/2003 8:41:54 AM PDT by Belial
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To: JudgemAll
I'm old enough to remember the bra burning of the feminist movement in order to gain national attention for thier cause.
"Political Correctness is a social mob attack in public on the individual. Gays seek politicaly correct mainstreamness of their behaviors in public. It is all over, and they even confine people out of their public street to force their messages and disgusting displays."
Looks like the feminists' tactics have become the model for MANY causes. Engage in outrageous behavior to draw attention to your cause.
325 posted on 06/26/2003 8:41:56 AM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: LanPB01
You kidding? I wouldn't have missed it for all the tea in China.
326 posted on 06/26/2003 8:42:24 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (road trip.....)
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To: unspun
You mean why would a deviant hide his deviance?

No. I meant what kind of lack of judgment does your sister have that she would marry a homosexual?

327 posted on 06/26/2003 8:43:03 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Aeronaut
A question for all who contend that this decision sends us into the cesspool:

This was a law that was almost never enforced. For what reason is it critical to have persons committing sodomy subject to a criminal law that is not enforced? Is it critical to have it on the books if it is not used to control conduct?

Is there not a detrimental effect to having unenforced laws on the books, i.e. respect for law, certainty of punishment, etc.?

328 posted on 06/26/2003 8:43:08 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: dead
The Bill of Rights doesn't include a 'right to privacy', dead.
329 posted on 06/26/2003 8:43:10 AM PDT by HumanaeVitae (Catholic Epimethean)
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To: Jim Noble
I don't know whether your point follows or not. (The US Supreme Court has its own internal logic.)

I was just addressing the false analogy of sodomy and prostitution enforcement.

Prostitution arrests do not depend on spying into private homes, while sodomy arrests must.

That's why I seldom see heterosexual couples being busted in their private homes for cunnilingus.

Having seldom-unenforceable laws on the books just to "punish" the "perverted" gays made no sense to the US Supreme Court Justices.

330 posted on 06/26/2003 8:43:27 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: RAT Patrol
It only appears to discriminate if you buy the lie that a group of people who desire something are somehow set appart from everyone else, and therefore a kind of minority group that can be deprived their equal protections.

I hate to break it to you RAT, but many heterosexuals desire oral sex too. Someday, you'll understand.
332 posted on 06/26/2003 8:44:17 AM PDT by Belial
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To: JudgemAll
If sodomy is an accepted form of sex, sodomy is then mandatory to consume the marriage. End of story.

This is the nuttiest thing that's been posted today.

How does one "consume" a marriage, anyway?

333 posted on 06/26/2003 8:44:31 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: jimt
"Insurance companies should be able to refuse to issue policies, or should be able to charge appropriate premiums to homosexuals."

Would be interesting to see this challenged as insurance companies currently do exactly this to smokers.

334 posted on 06/26/2003 8:44:33 AM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: Belial
Hey, I may live in a conservative area, but I do travel and have friends in Chicago, including gay ones. I'm only posting what they've told me- and it isn't all of them. It seems to be a faction of them that believe this. They are young. Granted, I'm sure there are many straight folks who think they have the right to have sex anywhere they want.

Sorry, but I can only explain what I know. I've corrected the 'many' term and did not mean to be all-inclusive.

335 posted on 06/26/2003 8:44:34 AM PDT by rintense (Thank you to all our brave soldiers, past and present, for your faithful service to our country.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
"When we get behind closed doors..."
"No one knows, what goes on behind closed doors."
sorry don't remeber the singer
this really sounds like a victory for NAMBLA
336 posted on 06/26/2003 8:44:42 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Good morning America)
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To: Thane_Banquo
Can anyone give me one good reason not to be distressed over the "times have changed" underpinning of the Court's decision?

Slippery slope, my eye, we're almost at the bottom of the sliding board. States' rights, fugghedaboudit. Except, of course, for the "compelling interest" of "diversity." Aaargh.

337 posted on 06/26/2003 8:45:02 AM PDT by Catie
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To: HumanaeVitae
Are all of your rights included in the Bill of Rights? Can the state in which you live constitutionally ban laughter? Eating chitlins? Giving away cash?
338 posted on 06/26/2003 8:45:14 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: petitfour
"What about orgies?"

I don't know of any laws against them. Do you?
339 posted on 06/26/2003 8:45:19 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: HumanaeVitae
The Bill of Rights doesn't include a 'right to privacy', dead.

The Bill of Rights is not a list of the rights we as citizens hold, HumanVitae

340 posted on 06/26/2003 8:45:28 AM PDT by OWK
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To: rintense
Maybe my disagreement is with your wording. Many people, straight and gay, may get titilated by the idea of public sex, but do they consider it a right? Absolutely not.
341 posted on 06/26/2003 8:45:54 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: Thane_Banquo
We alreaqdy have a nice keyword war going on I see.
343 posted on 06/26/2003 8:46:39 AM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: JudgemAll
It comes down to whom you know and what they believe. I can only draw conclusions- albeit irascible to some- based on what I know. If that is objectionable to some people, so be it.
344 posted on 06/26/2003 8:46:44 AM PDT by rintense (Thank you to all our brave soldiers, past and present, for your faithful service to our country.)
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To: sinkspur
No. I meant what kind of lack of judgment does your sister have that she would marry a homosexual?

Many, many have done so, not knowing his secret perversions. Quite a few have died. My sister did not. Many others' have.

345 posted on 06/26/2003 8:46:50 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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To: JudgemAll
If sodomy is an accepted form of sex, sodomy is then mandatory to consume the marriage. End of story.

I'm sorry, but could translate the above sentence into English, and then perhaps expound on what the hell it's supposed to mean?

346 posted on 06/26/2003 8:46:55 AM PDT by Pahuanui (when A Foolish Man Hears The tao, He Laughs Out Loud.)
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To: dead
Prepare yourself for gay marriage the Canadian way. Who needs legislatures?
347 posted on 06/26/2003 8:46:57 AM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: petitfour
Is it legal for any adult to have sex with any other consenting adult? What about orgies?

Legal, I don't know.

As the government is sanctioning marriage, I think laws against adultery are much more logical than laws against sodomy.

348 posted on 06/26/2003 8:47:39 AM PDT by jimt
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To: george wythe
Prostitution arrests do not depend on spying into private homes, while sodomy arrests must.

Unless the police are there for some other reason, or a witness reports it.

349 posted on 06/26/2003 8:47:39 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Ol' Sparky
"What's next? The legalization of prostitution? "

It's already legal in several counties in Nevada. So?
350 posted on 06/26/2003 8:47:39 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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