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Is there a Difference?: Platforms of the Communist Party and the Democratic Party
Various ^ | August 11, 2003 | nwrep

Posted on 08/11/2003 8:24:07 PM PDT by nwrep

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To: u-89; Joy Angela; Ragtime Cowgirl; Mia T
...To win at War...

...you must first know your Enemy.

...Since the Enemy is now Within...

...and is now running...

...for President of the United States...

...in 2004,

...what lengths will HILLARY...

...go to now ensure the end...

...of our FREEDOMS..?
41 posted on 08/11/2003 9:31:05 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
No, Hitlery is an **outright** Marxist, and therein lies the difference. Her political 'views' are being deliberately hidden from view by the filth that infest the alleged 'mainstream' media.

Apparently, it takes a village to raise a child, but I suppose we should be thankful that it takes a lot less effort, and on the part of considerably fewer than a 'village', to prevent such a would-be tyrant from gaining power.

42 posted on 08/11/2003 9:35:25 PM PDT by SAJ (Trust government, any government, and you're digging your own grave)
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To: SAJ
Pretty much what I said - I agree with you completely
43 posted on 08/11/2003 9:36:38 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: nwrep
Good Job of finding this, putting it together and posting it.

The Democrats deny it, but their platforms and their actions are all geared towards turning the US into a communist country, by redistributing the wealth, killing off the capitalist economy and assuming central control of everything and everyone "for the children".
44 posted on 08/11/2003 9:41:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: 11B3
Try reading our founders- May I suggest the Consititution and then the Federal Papers and then the Anti Federalist Papers?
45 posted on 08/11/2003 9:44:22 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Progressive is merely a sneaky way of saying "Socialist" or "Communist" - they can be used interchangably

It may be sneaky today simply because alot of the folks that dealt with and remember the Progressive Party founded by, (FDR V.P.), Henry Wallace in the late 1940's are no longer with us. According to my dearest Ms. Coulter, Wallace was an unabashed communist that left the Democrat party and ran a communist presidential campaign in 1948. It is very telling that in 1999 the Clinton administration dedicated a room @ Agriculture Department to Mr. Wallace. McGovern spoke @ the dedication and said he ran on a similar platform with the help of a young Yale Law School grad named Bill Clinton. ISYN. Treason pg 193.

46 posted on 08/11/2003 9:46:18 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: Chad Fairbanks; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; Carl/NewsMax; BKO; ...
NEVER FORGET


...While Congress was preparing to impeach him...

...WHY did CLINTON travel down to APOLOGIZE to the People of Central America for our having backed the WRONG side that was fighting against the CASTRO-Backed Communsts invading Central America in the early 1980's..?

...During the Vietnam War...

...WHY did Oxford Student Activist BILL CLINTON go to the Soviet Union to pick up his Communist funding for his Anti-U.S. Demonstrations he was organizing against us outside our London Embassy..?

...After he left office...

...WHY did BILL CLINTON announce that America won't even be around in 300 years while calling for all the nations of the World to play on the same level playing field without having an all powerfull America reigning over everyone else..?

...During the 1990's...

...WHY did President CLINTON refuse 3 Offers from the Sudan to extradite OSAMA bin LADEN to a U.S. Jail & Trial that would have prevented the Attacks on us on September 11, 2001..?

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.


NEVER FORGET
47 posted on 08/11/2003 9:49:06 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: Kudsman
Even though I dont' remember the 40s, or earlier, I've spent years infrming myself on the various aspects of the "isms" - thanks to a commie-pinko uncle who, when I was a child, used to send me tons of books, pamphlets, and other books on Communism etc... I grew up hating Communism, in all it's various forms, with a passion...
48 posted on 08/11/2003 9:51:15 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: All; FairOpinion; conservogirl
..."FREEDOM: The Right to Say NO to Communism".. =

...Golden Sign proudly held ouside the OSCARS in support of Director ELIA KAZAN's Lifetime Achievement Award OSCAR two years ago.

...If only the now enslaved People of a once Free South Vietnam could now do the same..?

...The President has promised FREEDOM's Return to Vietnam during a BUSH Presidency as our own best self defense against future terrorist attacks.

Vote ..R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N.. Only
49 posted on 08/11/2003 9:59:41 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: nwrep
OK, time for me to get myself in trouble. The Democratic Party has many problems but it does have a more pragmatic view that communism... Democrats understand deep down that if they are going to take from the rich and give to the poor, they have to accept that some will be rich and powerful...

Concerning the military intervention... There is a tendency to take credit for victories and blame others for losses but I think liberals and conservatives act the same in that regard...

Concerning taxation, I think it is the same concept I see when the police target vehicles in speed traps knowing that a person in a nice neighborhood with a nice car are willing to pay (though grudgingly) because of this belief that is ingrained that it is the cost of having a civilized society...

The truth IMHO is that the liberals and conservatives need one another to keep the other from going to far away from reality... Liberals saved us from the fascist attitudes of Nixon and Conservatives saved us from the unrealistic pursuits of Hillary Clinton.... Though I am definitely more conservative than liberal, I think what makes this country work is the adversarial system we have that brings about a moderate way of life...

Communists and Democrats...The thing they have in common is that the ideas are wonderful but in reality...

Conservatives and fascism....
Conservatives give as much information to society and government in the hope that the right decisions will be made and the right policies will be undertaken....Fascists....Everything at gunpoint...no discussion....

50 posted on 08/11/2003 10:08:04 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: Chad Fairbanks
...3 years ago...

...2004 Presidential Candidate HILLARY's No. 1 Media Defensive Linebacker WALTER CRONKITE called for the secession of all our Southern States from our Union...

...which would be a...

...violation of our...

...U.S. Constitution.

...WALTER CRONKITE =

...The Enemy Within
51 posted on 08/11/2003 10:11:31 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: dwd1
Liberals saved us from the fascist attitudes of Nixon

Conservatives and fascism.... Conservatives give as much information to society and government in the hope that the right decisions will be made and the right policies will be undertaken....Fascists....Everything at gunpoint...no discussion....

Be very careful here. Fascism is merely another facet of socialism, and has no more to do with conservatism than communism does. Also, you seem not to understand what conservatism is all about, if you think that we conservatives want to give information to "society" and government in the hopes of the best outcome. (I would like to know: how do you give anything to "society"? Who is taking stuff on behalf of "society"? Society is just an amorphous idea; as far as I can tell, it doesn't exist in the way that a, e.g., bank does.) Look at the racial privacy initiative that will be included on the California recall ballot: a conservative initiative designed to prevent certain types of information from being collected by government. Anyway, I suggest doing more reading to learn about conservatism; FR is an excellent resource for this.

52 posted on 08/11/2003 11:51:07 PM PDT by exDemMom (Michael Jackson for Governor!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Did you read Radical Son, Chad? (I seem to recall that you have.) I hated communism my whole life, too; as an adult, for me, reading that book was a serious eye-opener in terms of becoming aware of the goals and methods of its followers.

Scary stuff. You can actually see them succeeding in some ways (infiltrating the education system, defining themselves in positive terms, etc.), and it is frightening.

53 posted on 08/12/2003 12:58:15 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I call him "Mel". He calls me "Security".)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; conservogirl
"A Free Press that does not fulfill its duty to inform We the People ..will soon lose its Right to do so" =

...ALOHA RONNIE, 1999

...As long as ABC, CBS, NBC TV News continue committing Sins of Ommission in their TV Coverage of the Enemy Within HILLLARY...

...her Book of Ommissions "Living History" will soon seem like Child's Play.
54 posted on 08/12/2003 5:38:15 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: nwrep
Neal Boortz made the observation that, despite all the rheotoric, we have drifted far to the left. The Democrat Party is akin to the Communists of the 1950's, and the Republican Party is akin to the Democrats of the 1950's.
55 posted on 08/12/2003 5:40:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Monster Zero
For your edification...
56 posted on 08/12/2003 5:43:14 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: exDemMom
It is my opinion that a lot of conservative issues that are raises which provide information to society are a reflection of Conservative Christian values and are in pursuit of the goal of a true meritocracy where people are judged and progress in this country based on their talents and hard work...A very admirable and worthwhile pursuit...

There is also an element of conservatism that spends a little too much time worrying about what people do in their bedrooms and in their private lives. I personally tend to go with the "As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord!" attitude.

There are some conservatives that believe that God gave us free will and we have to take responsibility for the choices we make when exercising our free will and there are other conservatives that believe we have been given free will and we choose to legislate against anything that does is against our Conservative Values. That is where people start to get nervous.

There are conservatives who believe in less taxation because they want to manage their own affairs and not contribute to government waste and pork and want a fair reward for their labor and effort. There are other conservatives who have not worked in generations living off their inheritance and having a lot of fun Saturday Nights but getting very conservative on Sunday morning.

There are conservatives who oppose racism and believe that all people should be treated equally under the law. There are other conservatives who believe that the racial issues we are dealing with in America are non-existent and that the problem is solved and nothing more needs to be done.
There are also conservatives and liberals who embrace an agenda because they don't want to see their lives change.


There are other conservatives who will hire illegal aliens to do the work they themselves would never do, eat the inexpensive fruit and food these illegals harvest, and then cheer when you see a full bus headed back to Tijuana.

There are conservatives who speak out against illegal immigration and there are conservatives who speak out against legal and illegal immigration...

As a moderate, I tend to go for the compassionate conservative agenda because I don't want to end up living behind a wall and having to drive an armored car to the store.

The thing about having liberals and conservatives and the adversarial relationship is that everyone has a shot at their dream. One can start out liberal and become more conservative and vice versa.

Most days, for me, the conservative agenda and mentality work. Some days, it does not...

However, per your suggestion, I will keep reading from the postings of those who engage and welcome opposing views and I will also read the postings of those who have no tolerance for opposing views and see how things turn out.

And to answer your question, conservatives provide information to society in the standard way (through the media, churches (love that witnessing concept), elected representatives and discussion). These interactions can lead to laws, community standards, unspoken rules, and traditions.
57 posted on 08/12/2003 6:38:32 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: nwrep
I have considered every possible explanation for the organized, extremely well funded forces which are trying to destroy what America once stood for.

Sometimes I wonder if there is some group or cabal which meets in secret and makes decisions but that is not really likely although I wouldn't completely dismiss the idea.

When seeing the fruits of their efforts it is plain that there is some evil force at work.

Is it possible that the democratic party has for the most part become the agent of Satan?

I am serious BTW. I really do wonder if Satan or whatever he is, has control of most of the World's governments. No other explanation seems to fit.

58 posted on 08/12/2003 6:48:45 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: exDemMom
By the way, the racial privacy issue may help but it is not the real problem... The real problem are the stereotypes attributed to certain groups...the tendency to think the worst about someone simply because they look different or come from a different place... I admit there has been progress but I also remember that on the day I was born, Kennedy was president, the Civil Rights act had not yet been passed, the poll tax amendment had not been signed, kids 18-20 could die in military service but not vote, etc.,etc...
I just disagree with the opinion that we don't have a lot of work to do individually and as a society (That is on all sides of town)...

I do not know if keeping our racial make-up out of the hands of the government is going to solve anything... I hope it does... But I have had that experience far too many times where someone is talking to me on the phone and likes me and then I get "that look" when I walk in... Doesn't bother me that much because I have the skills and other choices but I am not going to go around acting like the problem does not exist...

Also, I notice that you are just as offended about conservatives being associated with something as negative as fascism (and I think the only similarities that are even remote are in social policy and law enforcement...economic ideals are nothing alike)...I wonder if liberals feel the same about communism...Do unto others....

Hoping that
59 posted on 08/12/2003 7:01:03 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: nwrep; ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for the post and the ping. Thank you for naming it and bringing the discussion out in the open.
60 posted on 08/12/2003 10:16:46 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (4 years? Dems can't even handle 4 short months of good works and security successes in Iraq.)
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