MSNBC- Recall election to be delayed

Pete Williams MSNBC ^ | Pete Williams

[Ragirl]

California Appeals Court - Recall should be blocked!!!

[tx_eggman]

That ruling was in the context of a ruling by the New Jersey State Supreme Court, not a ruling by a Federal court.

The opinion is written from the context of the Federal Constitution trumphing the California State Constitution.

[woodyinscc]

I live in South orange County, and have always voted punch card!

[johnqueuepublic]

This signals the death of a republican form of government, SCOTUS is not in session, this is an ACLU/Davis/Democrat putsch.

What needs to be done is for the 9th to go Reichstag.

[Tree of Liberty]

There's no legitimate oversight, imo, but the 14th amendment (which the North forced the South to ratify as one of the conditions to re-enter a union the North also says they never left) gives legal authority for federal intervention.

[writmeister]

SCOTUS is in session. They heard the CFR case last week.

[Peach]

FNC said the ruling from the 9th Circuit said something along the lines of "when other countries around the world are trying to have free and open elections, it would tip the scales to have the recall go forward."

[snopercod]

How many judges on the 9th Circuit are Clinton appointees?

Rush just said that two of the judges who made this ruling are clinton appointees, and one was appointed by carter.

[AntiGuv]

Nice try..

I am well-aware of the varying interpretations of Bush v Gore and have alluded to that in several ways [inconsistent lower court rulings; the novelty of the relevant case law]. Quite frankly, this is not a "nice try" rhetorical game... The Supreme Court will rule however it sees fit and playing volleyball over the details is a waste of energy. I stated by view which is consistent with that of many interpretations; yours is consistent with other interpretations and may prove more accurate.

In the end, the 'politics' of the Supreme Court will play just as much role as the particulars of the case law. Don't be surprised in the slightest if the SCOTUS issues a summary affirmation and skips this issue altogether. This Supreme Court has never evidenced the slightest hesitation to influence the political process, whether by action or by inaction as the case may be...

Remember all the oh-so-well-constructed word game arguments over why the Supreme Court was going to reverse the New Jersey court on the Torricelli-Lautenburg substitution? Odds favor the SCOTUS taking a pass. That's my final answer...

[triplejake]

According to the Senate Judiciary website, 45 of 95 Bush judicial nominations have been confirmed.

[flamefront]

Good point.

[Tree of Liberty]

SCOTUS is in session. They came back early to hear the campaign finance reform suit.

[Dog]

According to a reporter on Fox reading a quote from the ruling they even brought foreign policy into the ruling...

LOL!

[Wolfstar]

ACTIVE JUDGES OF THE 9TH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS

Note that Ramona Ripston, executive director of the ACLU of Southern California, is the wife of Justice Stephen Reinhardt.

	NAME	RESIDENT CHAMBERS	DATE OF BIRTH	DATE OF APPOINTMENT	APPOINTED BY
ACTIVE	Schroeder, Mary M., Chief Judge	Phoenix	12/04/40	09/26/79	Carter
	Pregerson, Harry	Los Angeles	10/13/23	11/02/79	Carter
	Reinhardt, Stephen	Los Angeles	03/27/31	09/11/80	Carter
	Kozinski, Alex	Pasadena	07/23/50	11/07/85	Reagan
	O'Scannlain, Diarmuid F.	Portland	03/28/37	09/26/86	Reagan
	Trott, Stephen	Boise	12/12/39	03/25/88	Reagan
	Rymer, Pamela Ann	Pasadena	11/06/41	05/22/89	Bush
	Nelson, Thomas G.	Boise	11/14/36	10/17/90	Bush
	Kleinfeld, Andrew J.	Fairbanks	06/12/45	09/16/91	Bush
	Hawkins, Michael Daly	Phoenix	02/12/45	09/15/94	Clinton
	Tashima, A. Wallace	Pasadena	06/24/34	01/04/96	Clinton
	Thomas, Sidney R.	Billings	08/14/53	01/04/96	Clinton
	Silverman, Barry G.	Phoenix	10/11/51	02/04/98	Clinton
	Graber, Susan P.	Portland	07/05/49	03/19/98	Clinton
	McKeown, M. Margaret	Seattle	05/11/51	04/08/98	Clinton
	Wardlaw, Kim McLane	Pasadena	07/02/54	08/03/98	Clinton
	Fletcher, William A.	San Francisco	06/06/45	10/09/98	Clinton
	Fisher, Raymond C.	Pasadena	07/12/39	10/12/99	Clinton
	Gould, Ronald M.	Seattle	10/17/46	11/22/99	Clinton
	Paez, Richard A.	Pasadena	05/05/47	03/14/00	Clinton
	Berzon, Marsha S.	San Francisco	04/17/45	03/16/00	Clinton
	Tallman, Richard C.	Seattle	03/03/53	05/25/00	Clinton
	Rawlinson, Johnnie B.	Las Vegas	12/16/52	07/26/00	Clinton
	Clifton, Richard R.	Honolulu	11/13/50	07/30/02	Bush
	Bybee, Jay S.	Washington, D.C.	10/27/53	03/21/03	Bush
	Callahan, Consuelo M.	Sacramento	06/09/50	05/28/03	Bush

[Wphile]

I'm not in California but our ballots would never be allowed based on this. There is no way the idiots in California and Florida could figure them out. The ballot and the card are not even connected, no lines directing you to which hole to punch...we don't even get a stylus anymore to punch the cards with and they stopped using the styrofoam backing years ago so now the chads always hang. You have to pull them off to insure that they won't effect the card when it's run through the machine.

What a frickin' mess. Thanks a lot Al Gore.

[Grampa Dave]

The Nth Circus of leftweiny jerkoffs, strikes again.

Scotus will hammer them again. Scotus beats these drugged out pretenders like a drum several times each year. There isn't a single Nth Circus leftweiny worth the oxygen they breath in or the CO2 they breath out.

What happens is the California ACLU gets 3 of its perverts on on Nth Circus of leftweiny jerkoffs chosen to make a decision like this. Sometimes they use retired leftweiny jerkoffs like the aborted pledge of allegiance fiasco last year. They make these out rageous decisions, it makes the news as great news. Then, Scotus handles the situation and flushes the decision down where it belongs.

[xrp]

According to the Supreme Court, it should be O'Conner:

Allotment of Justices

[Peach]

Good point about this being a federal decision already once the 9th Circuit got involved.

[WOSG]

"I was able to vote with PUNCH CARDS without any difficulty.
"

Obviously you are a Republican then!

[concerned about politics]

Rush saying only the Dictators and the ACLU fear an election...

True. When they think they'll lose, they find something to litigate. They'll try to win through the courts, rather than state laws and the will of the voters there.
If anyone is denying the people their democracy, it's the liberal in California!

[aristeides]

This delay will insure the Davis recall, and the defeat of Bustamante.

The Democrats and the 9th Circuit have overplayed their hand.

It may ensure more than that. It may ensure the breakup of the Ninth Circus, and the breaking of the RAT filibusters of judges in the U.S. Senate.