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Nails In The Preterist-Replacementarian's Perspective's Coffin
That puzzling space between Quix's ears.
| 6 MAR 2009
| Quix
Posted on 03/06/2009 7:57:37 PM PST by Quix
NAILS IN THE PRETERIST--REPLACEMENTARIAN COFFIN
SCRIPTURES AND QUIX COMMENTARY ISAIAH:
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2:1-5: The Mountain of the Lord 1 This is what Isaiah son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem:
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This was not some fantasy. This was some future reality that the God-beyond-time SHOWED Isaiah. |
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2 In the last days the mountain of the LORD's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. |
1) "IN the LAST DAYS." I realize that PreteristREPLACEMENTARIANS do not believe in the Bible verses about the LAST DAYShowever, they are GODS WORD. And, given Blood Israels being regathered [far from complete] again to the Holy Land, we are certainly in that era regardless of the blindness of some perspectives. 2) The mountain of the Lords Temple
CLEARLY God WILL HAVE ANOTHER TEMPLE built on HIS HOLY MOUNTAINregardless of REPLACEMENTARIAN OR PALISTINIAN PROTESTS to the contrary. 3) will be established as chief amongst the mountains. Scripture is quite clear that GODS HOLY MOUNTAIN WILL BE THE HIGHEST. I personally believehigher than any other in the whole world. Even if its only within that geographic regionit will certainly be highest of any for many miles aroundany within sight. Nothing else would make consistent sense with the text. 4) all nations will stream into it. CLEARLY THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. It certainly did not happen in 70A.D.! It will not happen until after Armageddon. AS we see the oligarchy setting the stage for Armageddon . . . and delusionally believing they can defeat Almighty God at Armageddon . . . we can realize that we havent long to wait for this ancient prophecy to be literally fulfilled. PRAISE GOD! BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD! |
ISAIAH 2:3
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3 Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
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1) Many peoples will come Again, this clearly has not happened yet. Nevertheless, GOD IS DECLARING, ALMIGHTY GOD!
IS DECLARING THAT IT WILL HAPPENTHAT MANY PEOPLE WILL STREAM FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO GODS HOLY MOUNTAIN AND THE JEWISH TEMPLE BUILT THEREON. Another Scripture indicates, that IF THEY DO NOTthat nation that does not send such delegations will not get any rain.
2) and say, COME LET US GO UP! The picture Ive persistently had when reading such verses is that of a JOYOUSLET US GO UP UNTO THE LORD AND HIS VERY JEWISH TEMPLE ON HIS MOUNTAIN IN HIS HOLY LAND! It is a grand and joyous calling to ones friends and loved ones to join in the pilgrimage. 3) to the mountain of The Lord. Againthis is no average mountain. This is a mountain without peer. This is THE MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD GOD ALM IGHTY OF THE ANGEL ARMIESas a number of passages call Him. And it has not yet been raised up as it will be. 4) TO the house of THE GOD of JACOB! Notethe verse does not say: TO THE CONGREGATION OF THE MESSIAHthough logically, Christians will certainly have residence and identity there. NO! THE EMPHASIS ISthe God of JACOBthe third Patriarch of the tribes of . . . NOT Methodists, NOT Presbyterians, NOT Episcopalians, NOT Assemblies of God, NOT Vineyards, NOT Calvary ChapelsNOTHE EMPHASIS ISTHE GOD OF JACOB! I realize that REPLACEMENTARIANS will think God goofed when HE wrote that emphasis in. Or else they will deny its any kind of emphasis. Or maybe they will just ignore the facts altogethera common rationalization on the part of their camp, it seems. 5) HE will teach us HIS WAYS! So, Dear Replacementarians, tell uswhen, exactly in 70 AD did this happen where Nations from all over the earth streamed into the highest mountain in the Holy Land with a hastily rebuilt THIRD Jewish Temple to sit at the feet of God and learn HIS WAYS there in that unusual mountain and that THIRD Jewish Temple? Was it in the first month? Maybe the 6th month? The 8th? Oh, right, it didnt happen at all. It hasnt happened yet. But the puzzle pieces are sure moving into place for it to happen! PRAISE GOD. BLESSED BE HIS NAME! 6) SO that we may walk in HIS PATHS! Ahhhhhhhhh . . . sooooo where are all these Nations in the world so eager to walk in JACOBS GODS PATHS? OH, RIGHT, they are lining up to destroy Jacobs descendants. Pesky fact, that. It Hasnt happened yet that they have learned their lesson and are eager then to learn THE GOD OF JACOBS WAYS. However it IS STILL VERY MUCH ON THE GOD OF JACOBS SCHEDULE! 7) The LAW [of the God of Jacob] WILL go out from ZION! NOT from Pikes Peak! NOT from Salt Lake! NOT from Milwaukee! NOT from Springfield! NOT from Coasta Mesa! NOT from Cantebury! NOT from Rome! FROM ZION! UNIQUE IN ALL THE WORLD TO JACOB AND JACOBS GOD.
8) The WORD OF THE LORD [of Jacob] FROM JERUSALEM! THE HOLY CITY! THE GOD OF JACOBSJEWISH HOLY CITY first and foremost. Thankfully Christians have been grafted in as citizens, as well! PRAISE GOD FOR HIS FAITHFULNESS TO ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB. That demonstrates to me that He WILL BE FAITHFUL TO ME, his Blood Bought adopted son. |
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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: endtimes; israel; prophecy; replacementarian
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To: Quix
81
posted on
03/07/2009 8:39:07 AM PST
by
navygal
(Congress needs to get on the Dave Ramsey plan.)
To: XeniaSt
Ahhhhhhhhh.
Thanks.
Then that would be 100% of Scripture came through the Jews, right?
Yeah, some seem to have a . . . ‘snarky calling’ . . . at least in their eyes.
Though some would say I’m a ‘snarky magnet!’ LOL.
ON ANOTHER TOPIC:
HR875 and S425...call and tell your legislators to remove this immediately! Outlaws heirloom seeds
From [A BELOVED FREEPER] | 03/07/2009 7:37:00 AM PST new
HR875 and S425...call and tell your legislators to remove this immediately! Outlaws heirloom seeds and gardens!
The Government is now trying to pass legislation that will make it illegal for anyone to raise a garden! This is a tolatarian act!
These bills will out law heirloom seeds! The heirloom seeds are the only seeds that you can harvest seed from for the next years growth! Hybrids will not reproduce! This is extremely important!
Please listen to these 2 videos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvGBljwnSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cTzT8qRIS4&feature=channel_page
82
posted on
03/07/2009 8:47:37 AM PST
by
Quix
(POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
To: navygal
THANKS FOR YOUR KIND REPLY.
83
posted on
03/07/2009 8:48:07 AM PST
by
Quix
(POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
To: XeniaSt
Many believe that Luke was a Jew.
Like, who?
84
posted on
03/07/2009 8:49:58 AM PST
by
Lee N. Field
(Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
To: XeniaSt; Alamo-Girl; airborne; American in Israel; AnimalLover; auggy; backhoe; backslacker; ...
Am listening to very sobering stuff . . .
doesn’t seem to be available at present . . .
http://www.truenews.com
here’s an audio download link from a FREEPER:
Move the slider forward to the 14:00 minute mark to get to the very sobering parts beginning.
http://www.trunews.com/Audio/2_23_09_monday_trunews2.mp3
THERE ARE 3 SOURCES ON THE AUDIO CONFIRMING ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SORTS OF THINGS.
As a watchman, I dare not withhold the information.
85
posted on
03/07/2009 8:55:02 AM PST
by
Quix
(POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
To: Lee N. Field
86
posted on
03/07/2009 9:09:56 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
To: XeniaSt; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
And you are sinless ? No, but I'm repentant. I do not intentionally try to live like the world. Unlike our friend Mr. Lindsey, who is on his fourth wife, JoLyn, after divorcing second wife, Jan ("my best pal"), and third wife, Kim.
Can you imagine a scenario where a so-called "minister of God" divorces three women in a biblical fashion? It stretches credibility to the limit.
But, as usual, you miss the point. His ministry is questionable. Lack of accountability among these media preachers is the heart of the problem, plus a clueless following that keeps writings checks.
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posted on
03/07/2009 9:12:09 AM PST
by
topcat54
(Laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
To: Lee N. Field; XeniaSt
Like, who? Messianics with an axe to grind. The same folks that assert a Hebrew original for parts of the NT without proof.
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posted on
03/07/2009 9:14:01 AM PST
by
topcat54
(Laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
To: Quix
89
posted on
03/07/2009 9:14:52 AM PST
by
Joya
(Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
To: Quix; Joya
90
posted on
03/07/2009 9:16:15 AM PST
by
Quix
(POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
To: Cvengr; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
After God the Holy Spirit is removed from indwelling believers, what would you then call the subsequent believers? Your finders are moving over the keyboard, but the words being typed make no sense. What are you talking about? Is this another fantasy theory of the futurists?
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posted on
03/07/2009 9:17:08 AM PST
by
topcat54
(Laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
To: Quix
92
posted on
03/07/2009 9:19:27 AM PST
by
Blogger
(Remember Nineveh)
To: Quix
93
posted on
03/07/2009 9:20:02 AM PST
by
LiteKeeper
(Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: Cvengr; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
94
posted on
03/07/2009 9:22:32 AM PST
by
topcat54
(Laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
To: topcat54
Thought it might be a (Cult of) Macintosh thing.
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posted on
03/07/2009 9:25:37 AM PST
by
Lee N. Field
(Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
To: Quix; XeniaSt; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
From your folks at "trunews":
Todays world news headlines look like passages from the Holy Bible. War in the Middle East
terrorism
weapons of mass destruction
globalization
implanted microchips in humans
Big Brother surveillance technology
a cashless society
human cloning
hybrid chimeras
genetically modified food
robotics and artificial intelligence
3-D holographic images
global warming, extreme climate changes, and weather modification
bizarre new diseases
the removal of the Ten Commandments and Christian symbols from public display
the persecution of Christians around the world
super volcanoes
mega-earthquakes
tsunamis
the risk from asteroids
extreme solar eruptions
and much more.
IOW, futurist fantasy. The gospel according to the New York Times.
At least they had the good sense to drop the "e" from the word "true" cuz there's little truth in the site.
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posted on
03/07/2009 9:28:39 AM PST
by
topcat54
(Laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
To: Quix
To: topcat54; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
But, as usual, you miss the point. His ministry is questionable. Lack of accountability among these media preachers is the heart of the problem, plus a clueless following that keeps writings checks.Since you are a sinner, your ministries must be questionable.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
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posted on
03/07/2009 9:58:28 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
To: topcat54
God the Holy Spirit indwells every believer today in the Church Age. That indwelling did not occur in the Old Testament, but there still remained a system of salvation for believers, even without the indwelling of God the Holy Spirit at that time. Their temple was provided in the tabernacle and the Shekinah glory was observed emanating from the Holy of Holies.
When the curtain was rent in two, the Temple on the mount was no longer a sacred building. The sacred dwelling place of God was now in the believer from their soul in which God identified something righteous when the believer exercised the faith through Christ, the same faith as His, whereby God in His immutable nature was able to regenerate the human spirit in the believer by His grace, thereby forming a new temple for the indwelling of Christ in the believer.
Today the Shekinah Glory is manifest from the believer showing the presence of the indwelling of the Son in every believer in fellowship with Him.
When the Second Coming occurs, many of these features present in the Church Age are different in that future time, just as they were different for the Old Testament believer.
We both concur, Jew and Gentile alike, as believers through faith in Christ are both members of the Church. The Church is defined as that group of believers in an Age when an indwelling of God the Holy Spirit is present. He chooses to indwell by His authority and volition in His Sovereignty, not by our volition. Likewise, Prophecy indicates a time will come when He no longer is indwelling us, but rather we have fellowship with Him in His humanity, in His resurrected body, for a Millennium here on earth, in body, soul, and in spirit.
99
posted on
03/07/2009 10:36:47 AM PST
by
Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
To: LiteKeeper
John has never struck me as a particularly aware or discerning prophecy teacher.
100
posted on
03/07/2009 10:43:52 AM PST
by
Quix
(POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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