Nails In The Preterist-Replacementarian's Perspective's Coffin

That puzzling space between Quix's ears. | 6 MAR 2009 | Quix

[Quix]

NAILS IN THE PRETERIST--REPLACEMENTARIAN COFFIN

SCRIPTURES AND QUIX COMMENTARY
ISAIAH:

1.	2:1-5: The Mountain of the Lord 1 This is what Isaiah son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem:	This was not some fantasy. This was some future reality that the God-beyond-time SHOWED Isaiah.
2.	2 In the last days the mountain of the LORD's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it.	1) "IN the LAST DAYS." I realize that Preterist—REPLACEMENTARIANS do not believe in the Bible verses about the LAST DAYS—however, they are GOD’S WORD. And, given Blood Israel’s being regathered [far from complete] again to the Holy Land, we are certainly in that era regardless of the blindness of some perspectives. 2) “The mountain of the Lord’s Temple…” CLEARLY God WILL HAVE ANOTHER TEMPLE built on HIS HOLY MOUNTAIN—regardless of REPLACEMENTARIAN OR PALISTINIAN PROTESTS to the contrary. 3) “will be established as chief amongst the mountains.” Scripture is quite clear that GOD’S HOLY MOUNTAIN WILL BE THE HIGHEST. I personally believe—higher than any other in the whole world. Even if it’s only within that geographic region—it will certainly be highest of any for many miles around—any within sight. Nothing else would make consistent sense with the text. 4) “all nations will stream into it.” CLEARLY THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. It certainly did not happen in 70A.D.! It will not happen until after Armageddon. AS we see the oligarchy setting the stage for Armageddon . . . and delusionally believing they can defeat Almighty God at Armageddon . . . we can realize that we haven’t long to wait for this ancient prophecy to be literally fulfilled. PRAISE GOD! BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD!

ISAIAH 2:3

3.	3 Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.		1) “Many peoples will come” Again, this clearly has not happened yet. Nevertheless, GOD IS DECLARING, ALMIGHTY GOD! … IS DECLARING THAT IT WILL HAPPEN—THAT MANY PEOPLE WILL STREAM FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO GOD’S HOLY MOUNTAIN AND THE JEWISH TEMPLE BUILT THEREON. Another Scripture indicates, that IF THEY DO NOT—that nation that does not send such delegations will not get any rain. 2) and say, COME LET US GO UP! The picture I’ve persistently had when reading such verses is that of a JOYOUS—LET US GO UP UNTO THE LORD AND HIS VERY JEWISH TEMPLE ON HIS MOUNTAIN IN HIS HOLY LAND! It is a grand and joyous calling to one’s friends and loved ones to join in the pilgrimage. 3) to the mountain of The Lord. Again—this is no average mountain. This is a mountain without peer. This is THE MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD GOD ALM IGHTY OF THE ANGEL ARMIES—as a number of passages call Him. And it has not yet been raised up as it will be. 4) TO the house of THE GOD of JACOB! Note—the verse does not say: TO THE CONGREGATION OF THE MESSIAH—though logically, Christians will certainly have residence and identity there. NO! THE EMPHASIS IS—the God of JACOB—the third Patriarch of the tribes of . . . NOT Methodists, NOT Presbyterians, NOT Episcopalians, NOT Assemblies of God, NOT Vineyards, NOT Calvary Chapels—NO—THE EMPHASIS IS—THE GOD OF JACOB! I realize that REPLACEMENTARIANS will think God goofed when HE wrote that emphasis in. Or else they will deny it’s any kind of emphasis. Or maybe they will just ignore the facts altogether—a common rationalization on the part of their camp, it seems. 5) HE will teach us HIS WAYS! So, Dear Replacementarians, tell us—when, exactly in 70 AD did this happen where Nations from all over the earth streamed into the highest mountain in the Holy Land with a hastily rebuilt THIRD Jewish Temple to sit at the feet of God and learn HIS WAYS there in that unusual mountain and that THIRD Jewish Temple? Was it in the first month? Maybe the 6th month? The 8th? Oh, right, it didn’t happen at all. It hasn’t happened yet. But the puzzle pieces are sure moving into place for it to happen! PRAISE GOD. BLESSED BE HIS NAME! 6) SO that we may walk in HIS PATHS! Ahhhhhhhhh . . . sooooo where are all these Nations in the world so eager to walk in JACOB’S GOD’S PATHS? OH, RIGHT, they are lining up to destroy Jacob’s descendants. Pesky fact, that. It Hasn’t happened yet that they have learned their lesson and are eager then to learn THE GOD OF JACOB’S WAYS. However it IS STILL VERY MUCH ON THE GOD OF JACOB’S SCHEDULE! 7) The LAW [of the God of Jacob] WILL go out from ZION! NOT from Pike’s Peak! NOT from Salt Lake! NOT from Milwaukee! NOT from Springfield! NOT from Coasta Mesa! NOT from Cantebury! NOT from Rome! FROM ZION! UNIQUE IN ALL THE WORLD TO JACOB AND JACOB’S GOD. 8) The WORD OF THE LORD [of Jacob] FROM JERUSALEM! THE HOLY CITY! THE GOD OF JACOB’SJEWISH HOLY CITY first and foremost. Thankfully Christians have been grafted in as citizens, as well! PRAISE GOD FOR HIS FAITHFULNESS TO ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB. That demonstrates to me that He WILL BE FAITHFUL TO ME, his Blood Bought adopted son.

[navygal]

thanks for the ping.

[Quix]

Ahhhhhhhhh.

Thanks.

Then that would be 100% of Scripture came through the Jews, right?

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Yeah, some seem to have a . . . ‘snarky calling’ . . . at least in their eyes.

Though some would say I’m a ‘snarky magnet!’ LOL.

ON ANOTHER TOPIC:

HR875 and S425...call and tell your legislators to remove this immediately! Outlaws heirloom seeds

From [A BELOVED FREEPER] | 03/07/2009 7:37:00 AM PST new

HR875 and S425...call and tell your legislators to remove this immediately! Outlaws heirloom seeds and gardens!

The Government is now trying to pass legislation that will make it illegal for anyone to raise a garden! This is a tolatarian act!

These bills will out law heirloom seeds! The heirloom seeds are the only seeds that you can harvest seed from for the next years growth! Hybrids will not reproduce! This is extremely important!

Please listen to these 2 videos!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvGBljwnSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cTzT8qRIS4&feature=channel_page

[Quix]

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND REPLY.

[Lee N. Field]

Many believe that Luke was a Jew.

Like, who?

[Quix]

Am listening to very sobering stuff . . .

doesn’t seem to be available at present . . .

http://www.truenews.com

here’s an audio download link from a FREEPER:

Move the slider forward to the 14:00 minute mark to get to the very sobering parts beginning.

http://www.trunews.com/Audio/2_23_09_monday_trunews2.mp3

THERE ARE 3 SOURCES ON THE AUDIO CONFIRMING ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SORTS OF THINGS.

As a watchman, I dare not withhold the information.

[Uri’el-2012]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=was+luke+a+jew&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

[topcat54]

And you are sinless ?

No, but I'm repentant. I do not intentionally try to live like the world. Unlike our friend Mr. Lindsey, who is on his fourth wife, JoLyn, after divorcing second wife, Jan ("my best pal"), and third wife, Kim.

Can you imagine a scenario where a so-called "minister of God" divorces three women in a biblical fashion? It stretches credibility to the limit.

But, as usual, you miss the point. His ministry is questionable. Lack of accountability among these media preachers is the heart of the problem, plus a clueless following that keeps writings checks.

[topcat54]

Like, who?

Messianics with an axe to grind. The same folks that assert a Hebrew original for parts of the NT without proof.

[Joya]

http://www.trunews.com/

works.

CHEERIO,
J

[Quix]

Joya has pointed out my error.

Should be

http://www.trunews.com

without the e in true.

[topcat54]

After God the Holy Spirit is removed from indwelling believers, what would you then call the subsequent believers?

Your finders are moving over the keyboard, but the words being typed make no sense. What are you talking about? Is this another fantasy theory of the futurists?

[Blogger]

Very sobering!

[LiteKeeper]

Here is the first of three, one hour messages, on

Will the Church Go Through the Tribulation?

Part 2

Part 3

And one on the Rapture:

The Catching Away of the Church

BTW, these are all by John MacArthur

[topcat54]

Sorry, that “fingers”.

[Lee N. Field]

Thought it might be a (Cult of) Macintosh thing.

[topcat54]

From your folks at "trunews":

Today’s world news headlines look like passages from the Holy Bible. War in the Middle East… terrorism… weapons of mass destruction… globalization… implanted microchips in humans… Big Brother surveillance technology… a cashless society… human cloning… hybrid chimeras… genetically modified food… robotics and artificial intelligence… 3-D holographic images… global warming, extreme climate changes, and weather modification… bizarre new diseases… the removal of the Ten Commandments and Christian symbols from public display… the persecution of Christians around the world… super volcanoes… mega-earthquakes… tsunamis… the risk from asteroids… extreme solar eruptions… and much more.

IOW, futurist fantasy. The gospel according to the New York Times.

At least they had the good sense to drop the "e" from the word "true" cuz there's little truth in the site.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Uri’el-2012]

But, as usual, you miss the point. His ministry is questionable. Lack of accountability among these media preachers is the heart of the problem, plus a clueless following that keeps writings checks.

Since you are a sinner, your ministries must be questionable.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[Cvengr]

God the Holy Spirit indwells every believer today in the Church Age. That indwelling did not occur in the Old Testament, but there still remained a system of salvation for believers, even without the indwelling of God the Holy Spirit at that time. Their temple was provided in the tabernacle and the Shekinah glory was observed emanating from the Holy of Holies.

When the curtain was rent in two, the Temple on the mount was no longer a sacred building. The sacred dwelling place of God was now in the believer from their soul in which God identified something righteous when the believer exercised the faith through Christ, the same faith as His, whereby God in His immutable nature was able to regenerate the human spirit in the believer by His grace, thereby forming a new temple for the indwelling of Christ in the believer.

Today the Shekinah Glory is manifest from the believer showing the presence of the indwelling of the Son in every believer in fellowship with Him.

When the Second Coming occurs, many of these features present in the Church Age are different in that future time, just as they were different for the Old Testament believer.

We both concur, Jew and Gentile alike, as believers through faith in Christ are both members of the Church. The Church is defined as that group of believers in an Age when an indwelling of God the Holy Spirit is present. He chooses to indwell by His authority and volition in His Sovereignty, not by our volition. Likewise, Prophecy indicates a time will come when He no longer is indwelling us, but rather we have fellowship with Him in His humanity, in His resurrected body, for a Millennium here on earth, in body, soul, and in spirit.

[Quix]

John has never struck me as a particularly aware or discerning prophecy teacher.