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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
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| 8/27/10
| Reginald Firehammer
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Legatus
I’m not impressed with his dealings with Walter Martin’s daughter etc. etc. etc.
I’m not impressed with his attitude demonstrated over a span of such dealings.
I’m not impressed with his values displayed.
13,341
posted on
10/20/2010 3:52:01 AM PDT
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: kosta50
That's ontologically impossible in my case! :) You mean because you don't meet the requirement of being an evil lizard?
13,342
posted on
10/20/2010 4:19:32 AM PDT
by
Legatus
(Keep calm and carry on)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
13,343
posted on
10/20/2010 5:00:01 AM PDT
by
Jaded
(Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
To: OLD REGGIE; metmom; Cronos; RnMomof7; wagglebee; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
So, Ole Reg, does that mean that you stand by what you said Throughout 1 Timothy 2 Paul makes it very clear he is speaking for himself and himself only. This is a letter, not Scripture. namely that you don't think that 1 Timothy is Scripture?
And, does metmom think so too?
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posted on
10/20/2010 5:07:53 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
To: Natural Law; Iscool; Quix
Ahem, Iscool is not Protestant. A Protestant shares orthodox Christian beliefs with us like a belief in the Trinity, a belief that God is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, a belief that Jesus is 100% God and 100% man and a belief in ONE God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit).
Iscool doesn't, as per his statement He's not at your Mass either...If you mean Jesus Christ, He is seated at the right hand of the Father..." believe that Jesus is God or that God is omnipresent.
you can use the term Quix uses -- Pr...., or QP for short, which is the cliche of non-Catholics that surround this post and yet are not Christian as they don't have basic Christian beliefs (a belief in the Trinity, a belief that God is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, a belief that Jesus is 100% God and 100% man and a belief in ONE God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit)) --> REAL Protestants like orthodox, traditional Lutherans, Anglicans etc. would be horrified to have the QP included in any list of Protestants
13,345
posted on
10/20/2010 5:12:41 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
To: caww
Well then tell me, what do you think is the definition of Hinduism or what constitutes a Hindu?
13,346
posted on
10/20/2010 5:13:54 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
To: Quix
your term "Proddy" is not equivalent to Protestant.
The vast majority of Protestants are not members of the groupings to which the posters on this post are on about -- there are no posters from the lutheran, Anglican, Methodist or Assemblies of God groupings.
Again, I would hesitate to say that any of you ascribe to the general viewpoints of your grouping -- except Iscool or ES, who seems to each be a Kirk of One rejecting all others as non-cultic
So, the term "Proddy" is relegated to just being composed of you, Dr. E, mfights, metmom, presently no screen name, iscool, rnmomof7 and the handful of other non-Church folks who post on this thread.
13,347
posted on
10/20/2010 5:17:06 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
To: MarkBsnr; Alex Murphy
Giggles for Jesus is a ministry that I hadn't run across before.
Is that Alex's latest cult-group? No wonder he posts so many funny articles! Perhaps
THIS Humor Kirche? (go to 1:05 minutes from the start
13,348
posted on
10/20/2010 5:25:50 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
To: Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; metmom; Quix; editor-surveyor
Oh, you mean you acknowledge Unitarians who deny Christ's divinity in the Trinity using sola scriptura, sola interpretura as being part of your group?
13,349
posted on
10/20/2010 5:27:22 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
To: Legatus; Dr. Eckleburg
Almost, almost but not am I convinced of total depravity. Almost am I convinced that Baptism does not regenerate. Almost am I convinced that there is no God. But for the One, Holy, Apostolic and Catholic Church... but for the Holy Mother who leads me to Jesus Christ and bids me kneel at the foot of His Holy and life giving Cross singing "I saw water flowing from the right side of the temple, alleluia; and all they to whom that water came were saved, and they shall say, alleluia, alleluia!" And then she drags me stumbling to the Tomb ...So then, you owe a debt to Mary for your salvation?
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posted on
10/20/2010 5:27:46 AM PDT
by
Forest Keeper
((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
To: Quix
QUix: I personally find many of his assertions off the wall and devoid of solid truth. --> ok, fair enough, thank you for responding.
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posted on
10/20/2010 5:29:52 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
To: Forest Keeper
The “Holy Mother” to which I was referring is the Church. Didn’t make that quite clear I suppose.
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posted on
10/20/2010 5:34:45 AM PDT
by
Legatus
(Keep calm and carry on)
To: Quix
Do you think that Lutherans and Anglicans are not a Church? I disagree.
And let me rephrase: CC, AVC, etc. are just sub-cults, not Churchs like the real ones among Protestants: Anglican, Methodist, Lutherans etc
The Holy Spirit has already demonstrated His persistent disapproval of all of those sub-cults by having the CC split into the AVC and so on, each of these cults dying out soon after the founders kick the bucket.
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posted on
10/20/2010 5:36:24 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
To: Natural Law
So now your Protestant God is not omnipresent? Since we have already seen Protestants claim that He is not omniscient, and not omnipotent, and just today that St Paul speaks through the Holy Spirit I would venture to guess you are speaking about a completely different God than we Catholics.I realize your religion would like us to believe the notion that your catechism trumps God's words in the scriptures but as a Christian, I have no choice but to believe what God says...
Obviously the omnipresence of God is a mystery to you guys which you have never solved...Let's see what Jesus says about it...
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The indwelling of the Holy Spirit in all believers is clearly another mystery to you guys...I can only assume you guys and your religion are part of the 'world' spoken of in this verse...
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
So here it is...Jesus says he's leaving...And he left...He sent the Holy Spirit, the Comforter in his place...
And then Jesus says, I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you...But Jesus says he's leaving and sending the Comforter in his place...
Jesus IS the Holy Spirt and Comforter...There's God's omnipresence...
And where does Jesus/the Holy Spirit show up??? In a cracker??? Of course not...
Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
There it is...Jesus is in the Father and we are in Jesus, in the Father...Jesus is also in us...And he's not in our stomachs...
Even if Jesus did show up in a cracker, it would be useless to put him in our stomachs...
We have no need to eat Jesus...Jesus is already in us, no matter where we are...Sorry that you don't know that...
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posted on
10/20/2010 5:49:01 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(I don't understand all that I know...)
To: Cronos; boatbums
Do you think that Lutherans and Anglicans are not a Church? I disagree. "Ecclesial Community" not church.
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
RESPONSES TO SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE DOCTRINE ON THE CHURCH
FIFTH QUESTION
Why do the texts of the Council and those of the Magisterium since the Council not use the title of Church with regard to those Christian Communities born out of the Reformation of the sixteenth century?
RESPONSE
According to Catholic doctrine, these Communities do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of Orders, and are, therefore, deprived of a constitutive element of the Church. These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery[19] cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called Churches in the proper sense[20].
[19] Cf. Second Vatican Council, Decree Unitatis redintegratio, 22.3.
[20] Cf. Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Declaration Dominus Iesus, 17.2: AAS 92 [2000-II] 758.
Just so we're all on the same page.
Boatbums, does this qualify? :)
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posted on
10/20/2010 5:51:56 AM PDT
by
Legatus
(Keep calm and carry on)
To: Cronos
Don't you find it odd that ACTUAL Protestants like Anglicans, Lutherans and Methodists are NEVER on these threads spouting various heretical beliefs.
I realize the Church speaks of separated brethren, but I think that we need to be very careful about what that means. Denial of the Divinity of Christ, denial of the Holy Trinity and denial that the Apostle Paul's epistles are Scripture are not simple misunderstandings, they are blatant heresies.
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posted on
10/20/2010 6:01:29 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Lera
No, its a secret Vatican archive satellite photo of an unnamed internet UFOlogist.
To: Quix
Of course they will likely DENY
that the Vatican offical paper has anything to do with the Vatican;
Dear Quix,
I wrote an article just over a year ago for the "Vatican offical paper." Yep, I was published in L'Osservatore Romano, English Edition, July 15, 2009.
Do you think I speak for the Pope?
I assure you, L'Osservatore Romano does NOT "speak" for the Pope. If I can get published in L'Osservatore Romano, then anyone can. And everyone does not speak for the Pope. I just called them up (literally) and presented an idea to them for an article. I sent them a CV, an outline of the article, and they gave me the go ahead.
Likewise, some astronomer who plays with telescopes at the Vatican observatory does not speak for the Pope either.
Frankly, most Vatican bureacrats are liberal heretics, and in no way whatsoever speak for or represent the thinking of the Pope.
Give it a rest, would you?
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I'm stealing that one!
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posted on
10/20/2010 6:25:34 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: MarkBsnr
Correct. I cannot argue with the numbers, yet overall, the percentage, even as the country has grown in population, has remained stable. Through immigration, legal and otherwise, and immigration only. Of course, this represents a loss in the "sending" country.
To be fair, Mainline Protestant Protestant Churches are also experiencing declining numbers.
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posted on
10/20/2010 6:26:22 AM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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