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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Natural Law
Isn't Christ omnipresent? What about Matthew 18:20; "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst."

"...in their midst."

8,881 posted on 10/05/2010 5:32:02 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: MarkBsnr
Constantine added to the Church after his death? Quite a feat. Do you claim deity, perhaps equality with God, with this as a proof?

Do you have a degree in Asininity?

8,882 posted on 10/05/2010 5:36:20 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: stfassisi
The Greek word katholikos(”universal” or “general”)pertained to those of one belief,not many divided beliefs in the time period of the Church Fathers,thus makes no difference weather it’s a small “k” or capitol “K”. The Arians and other heretics were condemned for NOT following the katholikos or “K”atholikos Church teaching.

It is an adjective, not a Proper noun.

8,883 posted on 10/05/2010 5:43:06 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: stfassisi
The Greek word katholikos(”universal” or “general”)pertained to those of one belief,not many divided beliefs in the time period of the Church Fathers,thus makes no difference weather it’s a small “k” or capitol “K”. The Arians and other heretics were condemned for NOT following the katholikos or “K”atholikos Church teaching.

It is an adjective, not a Proper noun.

8,884 posted on 10/05/2010 5:43:38 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Natural Law
Are you suggesting that Augustine was adding to the Revealed Word and should have been taken without question?

Are you suggesting that your selective selection of Augustine's writing ads to the revealed word?

8,885 posted on 10/05/2010 5:46:37 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Legatus

Pure baloney.


8,886 posted on 10/05/2010 5:49:14 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Quix
You know, these characterizations really aren't helpful...
"clique of magicsterical political bureaucratic self-aggrandizing power mongers"

As opposed to:

"coven of hysterical, know-nothing, self-important, self-righteous protesters"?

The only thing that's preventing me from responding to the use of the term "Rabid Cliques" with "Harpies for Jesus" is a sense that it would be personally insulting. Oh sure, there might be a lot of people giggling uncontrollably if I wrote "Calvinista Cockroaches", "Calvin's Corgies", "Calvinihuahuas", "Reformed Rutabagas", "Cranks for Calvin", "Luther's Losers", "Hell's Nags and Affiliated Cows", “Brides of Calvinstein”, “Jezebel’s Understudies” or "Horse of Babble-on"... give me some time I could come up with some great ones... but it would STILL be mean-spirited, counterproductive and nasty.

My neighbor just gave me a 100ml bottle of whiskey in honor of my dead cat. My wife is hiccuping just from sniffing the bottle, smells like aftershave to me... probably tastes like Calvin's catbox (you know where I'm going with this now don't you?) which is where most of the "reformed" doctrines around here seem to have originated.

8,887 posted on 10/05/2010 5:52:00 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Constantine added to the Church after his death? Quite a feat. Do you claim deity, perhaps equality with God, with this as a proof?

Do you have a degree in Asininity?

Nope, I'm not that OLD, REGGIE. :)

8,888 posted on 10/05/2010 5:52:57 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Do you have a degree in Asininity?

Are you still offering advanced courses?

8,889 posted on 10/05/2010 5:55:12 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Legatus
Stated correctly the Bible never refers to "private interpretation" of Scripture.

2 Peter 1:
20 First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation,
21 because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

Hold it, hold it, hold it.

Are you aware of the difference between "private interpretation of Scripture" and the private interpretation of "prophesy"?

8,890 posted on 10/05/2010 5:55:27 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Legatus; Quix
My neighbor just gave me a 100ml bottle of whiskey in honor of my dead cat. My wife is hiccuping just from sniffing the bottle, smells like aftershave to me... probably tastes like Calvin's catbox (you know where I'm going with this now don't you?) which is where most of the "reformed" doctrines around here seem to have originated.

But you must remember that Quix is not Reformed in any manner; he is professed Pentecostal. It is in their antiCatholic beliefs that they are fellow travellers...

8,891 posted on 10/05/2010 5:56:26 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Legatus

ROFL!


8,892 posted on 10/05/2010 5:57:09 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Pure baloney.

O WOW O R. That's some mighty fine repartee right there. Keep sharpening that sledgehammer.

8,893 posted on 10/05/2010 5:58:52 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Are you aware of the difference between "private interpretation of Scripture" and the private interpretation of "prophesy"?

Good grief. Why not just start throwing words together randomly and see if the other side will argue about them, is that what's going on in your posts?

8,894 posted on 10/05/2010 6:07:52 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Few of us will ever have the time or opportunity to be scholars of ancient languages so it really surprises me that the many works of those that have are so regularly ignored when trying to understand the meaning of words of such an important book as the Bible.

“I used google and a 60 year old Latin dictionary. :-)”

Yep, save them old books, they grow in value by the year. (and Latin hasn't changed in the past 60 years)

8,895 posted on 10/05/2010 6:16:31 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Legatus; kosta50
Good grief. Why not just start throwing words together randomly and see if the other side will argue about them, is that what's going on in your posts?

Hmm, shades of Kosta's Reformed Random Verse Generator with which so many nonsensical Reformed proofs are presented.

8,896 posted on 10/05/2010 6:17:59 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Legatus

Actually, I’m in favor of whatever label you prayerfully think is true.

Christ called the religious magicsterical 2000 years ago a brood of vipers; white washed tombs; sons of satan etc.

Telling it as perceived/like it is at least has a chance to get folks thinking . . . and possibly praying.


8,897 posted on 10/05/2010 6:33:41 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: MarkBsnr

A lot of words to prove what I already suspected:

That you do not understand the assurance of salvation that the Lord’s elect do. Those that are his own know without a doubt that they are; the Holy Spirit assures us daily, hourly, momentarily.

Your question to which I replied had already told me that it’s author did not know our Lord. (a chilling revelation to be sure)

Posting more words for which your understanding is lacking will not cause us to trade places.
.


8,898 posted on 10/05/2010 7:17:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: stfassisi

> “I thus spent my night washing her outside in cold upstate NY to the wee hours of the morning...”

.
A suggestion:

Keep a gallon of distilled white vinegar and a large spray bottle on hand for the next time this emergency comes along.

Better for you, better for the dog. It’ll all be over in 10 minutes, and you can get your sleep.


8,899 posted on 10/05/2010 7:33:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
A lot of words to prove what I already suspected:

That you do not understand the assurance of salvation that the Lord’s elect do. Those that are his own know without a doubt that they are; the Holy Spirit assures us daily, hourly, momentarily.

That is not the Holy Spirit. Even you Paulians (I hope) have kept enough Scripture to understand that St. Paul instructs us to run the race through to the end and that we will be Judged.

Romans 10: 6 But the righteousness that comes from faith says, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will go up into heaven?' (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 4 or 'Who will go down into the abyss?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead)." 8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith that we preach), 9 for, if you confess 5 with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For one believes with the heart and so is justified, and one confesses with the mouth and so is saved. 11 For the scripture says, "No one who believes in him will be put to shame." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, enriching all who call upon him. 13 For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

Will be saved upon condition. Not is guaranteed saved. Persevere until the end; no guarantee of your salvation. God guarantees that He will offer salvation. He guarantees our inheritance. No guarantee that we will collect until the end.

Your question to which I replied had already told me that it’s author did not know our Lord. (a chilling revelation to be sure)

How puerile. Or soap opera.

Do you profess the Nicene Creed which is a basic requirement for Christianity? What is the first profession? The second? The third?

Posting more words for which your understanding is lacking will not cause us to trade places.

I cannot trade places with such as you since I have Christian belief and will not give it up.

8,900 posted on 10/05/2010 7:35:44 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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