Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[OpusatFR]

“The YOPIOS crowd seems to operate under the assumption that every sect that was ever declared heretical by the Catholic Church was really just a group of oppressed Protestants...”

What’s laughable is that every point in Christianity from Christ’s nature and so forth right on to the Trinity, they owe to the Catholic Church, to the Fathers and to the Counsils.

The “ancient Baptists” or “Roman Unitarians” didn’t exist.
A lot of their current misinformation is due to the re-writing of the history of Constantine’s reign to infer that he suppressed all the Christians who went underground at some point and resurfaced in the 17th and 18th century.

[1000 silverlings]

ok, you were replying to the post mentioned, however the reply began demanding to know what church

What kind of Presbyterian? There are several distinct groups. 12,540

[D-fendr]

The point of the question is what is your specific theology: Confession, Creed, Statement of Beliefs, Principles, etc.

Not comparing locations but comparing varying beliefs as stated by your church.

[D-fendr]

The clown in question looks to be utilized for the children in the church. Unlike Rome, where the clowns lead the mass.

Again:

Video of Clown Communion Service [for adults], Wrinkles & Doolotz at the Westminster Presbyterian Church in Portland, OR., 1999.

[1000 silverlings]

By all means, go first, or stop demanding to know. The Catholics think they can say “Catholic, now you,” but as we all know now, you have sects that run the gamut and will never admit to it. “One church”, what a farce

[D-fendr]

What are you church’s equivalent to creeds and catechism, statement of beliefs, etc?

[D-fendr]

By all means, go first…

Here.

Yours?

[D-fendr]

Wrinkles the Clown serves [adults] Communion at Westminster Presbyterian Church.

[1000 silverlings]

quit trolling

[MarkBsnr]

And so they start machine gunning Scripture around without realizing (or caring) that I accept the Scriptures because of the authority of the Church and the only way they're going to convince me of the authority of their interpretations is to convince me of their authority to propose Scripture... or more sensibly as the Catholic Encyclopedia puts it: "Someone must bring it within reach and no matter what be done the believer cannot believe in the Bible nor find in it the object of his faith until he has previously made an act of faith in the intermediary authorities between the word of God and his reading."

Kosta and I have touched on this, if somewhat obliquely at times. For a long time, I kept the Augustine tagline which affirms the authority of the Church. The OT is full of prophets who felt abandoned by God and cried out in their anguish. That, however is perfectly acceptable to the Reformed, because they don't really care. It doesn't matter. All that matters is their anti Catholicism. But let Mother Teresa have those same doubts and feelings of abandonment, at about the same level, and they all pile on and comment on how pagan and unChristian and how unsaved she obviously is.

[D-fendr]

I don’t see asking what someone’s church believes as trolling.

Why would someone not proudly state their church’s beliefs, confession, creed, catechism…?

[MarkBsnr]

He died that we might be FRIENDS.

This illustrates the gulf between the children of the Reformation and Christianity. Christians believe that Christ died to save us from eternal death. That is the difference between the one and the other.

Christ is the Lord God Almighty, not Bozo Joe from two doors down that you swap beers with on Sunday afternoons watching football on TV.

[MarkBsnr]

I see that you have captured first the essence of Calvinism, and then the essence of Pentecostalism.

[MarkBsnr]

Oh, Lord. That third one has got to be Pentecostal UFO cult, right?

[MarkBsnr]

That pretty much sums it up, L. There is nothing to correct. The whole Protestant "doctrine" is "I am saved and you are not." The details are irrelevant.

A good summation. Have you ever been a courtroom attorney?

[MarkBsnr]

Continue to mock those that the Lord has sent to counsel you; by those means you may continue in your darkness.

Do you presume to speak for God? Where are your credentials? If you have none, then we may consider you a Simon Magus, opportunist and grifter.

[MarkBsnr]

Makes you wonder why they even bother going to church.

We go to church because we want to

Yeah? That's a good reason? The Bible is full of peoples' wants. What happens tomorrow if you don't want to?

We don't consider missing a church service a mortal sin. THAT is freedom in Christ, not slavery to an institution.

This is not Christianity; this is the individualized LaZBoy Chair that Iscool has so eloquently described to us. It is the freedom of Martin Luther's every milkmaid to write her own theology and believe her own religion.

This is what Jesus, Paul, Peter and John so vehemently warned against, and which is the basis for the Protestant Reformation.

[Quix]

There really are remedial reading classes available.

[Cronos]

Actually:
1. The Lord is with us, Christians, not with whichever outlandish cult your group is part of
2. Your group continues in darkness and cultishness and the fact is that it is actually the devil which leads such a vindictive and hate-filled cult.
3. Your groups attacks on Christ and Christ's Church will serve no purpose -- just like the attacks of the Marcionites, ARians etc., your group will fail because it is not of God.

[MarkBsnr]

I just happen to think that most of the times you post to me, the most loving response, the best thing I can do is that I should reply with REDEMPTIVE TRUTH.

Man up, Quix. The lady did and you have not.