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What planet are you people from? Nothing I write satisfies you. Look at post 140, do you mean to tell me that it is not clear?
Verdugo confirms : Yes, I consider Pope Benedict XVI to be a valid pope.
re: Anything you post regarding Catholicism is empty if you are unable to claim Pope Benedict as your pope.
The devil could post Mortalium Animos, and it would still be binding on Catholics. It is not the person that posts that counts it is the material and the source. If I post a doctrine of the Church, it is still doctrine.
Now, How can any of you look the other way when the Vatican II popes disregard all of the Church teaching, and do what all the popes have condemned with regard to ecumenism. How can you ignore Mortalium Animos? I’ve posted it 100 times, how can any of you ignore all of tradition, just because the current hierarchy is doing it? That is pure papalotry!
• Ignorance is bliss:
Sedevacantes and Papaloters, two sides of the same coin.
The sedevacantes say the popes can’t teach errors, therefore, we have had no popes since Pius XII. The Papaloters say nothing that the popes do is an error, therefore, tradition can be ignored, or has been updated.
The Catholic that follows tradition/antiquity, does not fall into that conundrum.
cricket, cricket, cricket
You have 6 children? Very good. To date? I assume that means your wife is young, still in her child bearing years.
That's a good sign, congratulations.
By the way, I'm not a sedevacantes, so, don't expect to get my goat up with your incessant bringing up of the subject.
You could have said that a dozen posts ago and saved me some hassle. And no, you didn't say it in those words back in 140.
That statement is neither creative nor inventive, but it is boring and that's something to some people, I suppose.
Those who've been around the Catholic blogosphere long enough realize that everything worth saying (and not saying) has been said before; and that the Catholic who follows tradition/antiquity is in as much danger of falling into the sins of pride and anger as those "Catholics" he rails against.
re:Those who’ve been around the Catholic blogosphere long enough realize that everything worth saying (and not saying) has been said before.
There is something new to learn every day. The more one knows, the more that one realizes that there is so much more to learn, that one thousand lifetimes on Earth won’t fill.
"Now, How can any of you look the other way when the Vatican II popes disregard all of the Church teaching, and do what all the popes have condemned with regard to ecumenism. How can you ignore Mortalium Animos? I’ve posted it 100 times, how can any of you ignore all of tradition, just because the current hierarchy is doing it? That is pure papalotry!"
I answered every time you and all the others on your ping posse asked. Meanwhile crickets is all I hear from all of your ping group, none of them can answer my question? How many times do I need to ask?
"Now, How can any of you look the other way when the Vatican II popes disregard all of the Church teaching, and do what all the popes have condemned with regard to ecumenism. How can you ignore Mortalium Animos? I’ve posted it 100 times, how can any of you ignore all of tradition, just because the current hierarchy is doing it? That is pure papalotry!"
I don't have a ping posse. Diversion, perhaps?
The first time I asked you, I asked for a yes or no answer. I asked nicely. No go.
I asked a couple more times for you to say whether you considered Pope Benedict a valid pope. You told me he had been validly elected. Equivocation.
This all was made difficult only by one party's refusal to just answer a simple question...simply.
Any complaining on your part is fluff.
"Now, How can any of you look the other way when the Vatican II popes disregard all of the Church teaching, and do what all the popes have condemned with regard to ecumenism. How can you ignore Mortalium Animos? I’ve posted it 100 times, how can any of you ignore all of tradition, just because the current hierarchy is doing it? That is pure papalotry!"
"Ignore all of tradition?" Take a deep breath. You're hyperbolating.
Lorica responded: "Ignore all of tradition?" Take a deep breath. You're hyperbolating.
FR religion forum is not a gossip club to talk about nothings. If people are going to post information, they should be qualified to respond in an intelligent manner. This response above from Lorica is a typical diversion from someone that does not posses a grasp of the subject matter. That's Ok, not everyone is supposed to be knowledgeable on everything, however, by the same token, they should not be posting on FR religion forum.
Are any of you "accusers of sedevacanteism" qualified to respond to my honest question? I've made it as easy as it can get, by excerpting and highlighting the important parts of Mortalium Animos! If you do not feel qualified, can you find someone that you think is, and have them respond?
This error of ecumenism is at the heart of the post Vatican II false deeds, which have nothing to do with Vatican II, and tradition/antiquity. It is just like the other false dees that have nothing to do with Vatican II, the mass facing away from the altar, communion in the hand, "Catholic" Pentecostalism, The New Mass in vernacular (in millions of flavors, improvised by each priest), the banning of the Gregorian Latin mass,removal of statues, the wreckovations of Catholic altars, and the turning of Catholic churches into Protetant looking assembly halls, etc.
Lorica responded: "Ignore all of tradition?" Take a deep breath. You're hyperbolating.
Verdugo answers: For Catholics, FR religion forum is not a gossip club to talk about nothings. If Catholics are going to post information, they should be qualified to respond in an intelligent manner. This response above from Lorica is a typical diversion from someone that does not posses a grasp of the subject matter. That's OK, not everyone is supposed to be knowledgeable on everything, however, by the same token, they should not be posting on FR religion forum.
Are any of you "accusers of sedevacanteism" qualified to respond to my honest question? I've made it as easy as it can get, by excerpting and highlighting the important parts of Mortalium Animos! If you do not feel qualified, can you find someone that you think is, and have them respond?
This error of ecumenism is at the heart of the post Vatican II false deeds, which have nothing to do with Vatican II, and tradition/antiquity. It is just like the other false dees that have nothing to do with Vatican II, the mass facing away from the altar, communion in the hand, "Catholic" Pentecostalism, The New Mass in vernacular (in millions of flavors, improvised by each priest), the banning of the Gregorian Latin mass,removal of statues, the wreckovations of Catholic altars, and the turning of Catholic churches into Protestant looking assembly halls, etc.
I do not lightly call the Orthodox part of the same body as Catholics, but say it with a lot of understanding (not my own and not one that an idiot like me understands easily but one knocked into my by these continuous, FRUITFUL discussions
I will not hesitate to disagree with these fellow members of the One Apostolic Church, but I will soundly fight anyone who says they are not one with us.
we have a millenium of fights but we have a future together, hand in hand.
Do we have differences? Sure we do, but we have so much in common and more importantly we are actually talking to each other now and co-operating on common defense, common statements of belief. Sure, we have a long way to go before any communion, but there have to be first steps between quarreling twins (though Catholics and Orthodox are even closer than twins)
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