Posted on 07/16/2011 7:24:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
In response to whether the public should vote for a Mormon for president, one should know what beliefs a candidate had.
Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman have Mormon roots and they have been vague about their beliefs and loyalty to the LDS church.
Mormon theology includes ideas like their priesthood brethren will become the government leaders, or future kings of the world, in a globalized theocracy, and that their male leaders will take over when a second coming of Christ occurs. They believe they are the pre-ordained leaders to rule over a coming theocratic kingdom.
Worthy Mormon males are temple attending, dressing in white with special learned handshakes, altar rituals, Masonic rites and gestures and do secretive activities different from normal society.
They believe they are the future gods of new worlds in a life after this one. They follow prophets with ever-changing doctrine and change their fictional "Book of Mormon" every time it is found to be un-politically correct.
Their women are taught they are good for breeding, to have large families.
A member of this cult is loyal to its church leaders and to whatever their modern prophets tell them is gospel, which changes at their will.
They claim to be Christian, but Mormon polytheism of many gods/goddesses in a hereafter, rituals that must be performed in their temples, garment wearing and works (not grace) that saves a person is different ideology.
It is debatable whether Mormons are Christians, and they have other scriptures special to Mormonism written by their leaders, not just the New Testament, like their Doctrine and Covenants and Book of Mormon.
To learn about them and their practices, beliefs and personal character will help us determine whether they are the future leaders of Americans. Or are they really stuck in their controversial past?
You probably hold the same intolerant view of Catholics because their view of works and faith are different from yours as well.
You are just too gutless to make comparably intolerant statements about Catholics because it isn't fashionable.
Being MOrmon is an all or nothing proposition. You are either ‘active’ or a ‘jack mormon’ (inactive).
Being ‘active’ means - they attend services (every week or nearly for at least 3 hours), they have church jobs (Romeny was the equivelent of a pastor at one point), they go to other members houses as often as they can (considering their schudules) to give lessons, they pay titihing, they wear the holy underwear, they were married in the LDS temple (which is about 25% of LDS), they took oaths to put the LDS church (not God not Christ) first above everything else and to use their influence to build up THE CHURCH (again not God, not Christ). They keep the health code, they read the Book of Mormon, they submit to the Prophet. I can go on.
They are very very very devout and that only happens if you really believe it.
Who appointed you to speak for Jesus Christ?
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You probably hold the same intolerant view of Catholics because their view of works and faith are different from yours as well.
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No me, the Bible.
And I hold no ill will against the Catholics, I consider them to be my brothers and sisters in Christ. In fact, I’m even allowed on Catholic Caucus threads here because of my background and academic interest in Catholicism.
So, once again your attack on me fails.
I pinged some Catholics to confirm this. Have any of you ever heard me say a harsh word against the Catholics?
And John F. Kennedy will do whatever the Pope tells him to if he gets elected.
Source, other than your mormon ties? Post a link to this comment.
Ah, but what is in an oath? When do they swear? Age 12? Confirmation? At 18, embarking upon some missionary venture? At age 60? Do they really believe what they once swore? Or is it all just part of custom and heritage. Many Protestants scoff at some of the more fundamentalist practices within Christianity, or at the belief of Roman Catholics that the bread and wine really do become the actual body and blood of Christ. But, of course, Catholics swear by it.
Agreed.
Not to my knowledge.
The swearing is a regular occurrence, there is constant checking in order to keep that temple recommendation. This recommendation literally is held over their heads, without it there is much they cannot do or acquire in the afterlife.
There is strong biblical support for rebuking false teachers. You may not like it because you think it’s mean or bigoted, but The Bible clearly instructs Christians to contend for the Faith and expose false teachings.
Therefore, when Christians point out that mormonISM is a false religion, they are perfectly justified by the
Bible for doing so. Just because you aren’t comfortable with that doesn’t make it wrong.
There is strong biblical support for rebuking false teachers. You may not like it because you think it’s mean or bigoted, but The Bible clearly instructs Christians to contend for the Faith and expose false teachings.
Therefore, when Christians point out that mormonISM is a false religion, they are perfectly justified by the
Bible for doing so. Just because you aren’t comfortable with that doesn’t make it wrong.
This is an attempt to get around JR's ban against any Romney support on FR.
The bishop and stake president each give you an interview where they ask a series of questions. If they feel you are worthy they will sign a "temple recommend", a credit card sized card that gives you permission to enter the temple for one year, at which point the card expires. After the recommend expires you must return to the bishop and stake president for another set of interviews to get the recommend renewed.
Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
Do you live the law of chastity?
Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
Are you a full-tithe payer?
Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
If you have previously received your temple endowment: Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple? Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
Before you ask here are the lds Articles of Faith:
The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
Joseph Smith
Same question can be asked of you. Does special underware grant you that authority?
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