Communion time in St. Peter’s is, for the vast majority of lay persons (not heads of state, and not folks chosen to receive from the pope), pretty much a mob scene, so there is nothing to be gleaned from the fact that Nancy Pelosi took holy Communion at Pope Francis’ installation Mass—nothing, that is, except that either Pelosi suffers from one of the most malformed consciences in the annals of American Catholic politics or that she is simply hell bent on using her Catholic identity to attack Catholic values at pretty much every opportunity. Certainly, Pelosi’s taking the Sacrament is not, in the slightest, a Roma locuta on pro-abortion Catholics and Communion.
Nancy Pelosi is America’s problem, not Rome’s, and it is obvious that, if left to her own lights, she will never mend her ways. For her sake, therefore, and for those confused by the chronic scandal she gives, Pelosi needs to be formally warned against taking holy Communion for so long as she promotes, as consistent with our Catholic faith, a variety of gravely immoral policies (per cc. 916, 1339); ministers, meanwhile, in her environs need to be directed to withhold Communion from her till advised otherwise by the competent ecclesiastical authority (per c. 915).
“This is troubling.”
Beyond very troubling.
If the Pope didn’t know what sort of people these two are, why not?
Is Canon Law now invalid, no longer enforced, or only applicable to “little people”, not the political elites?
People don’t think things through. Any “Diplomatic” problem should have been welcomed as an opportunity to point out that it's King Barry and the two clowns he sent who have egg on their faces since they all should have known the clowns would be denied communion. Canon Law clearly says they've excommunicated themselves when they publicly advocated abortion and voted for abortion in direct contradiction to Church Teaching. No only that, they’ve both made very public statements to the effect that they decide for themselves what to believe with Church Teaching being only one element that they consider, not their guiding light as it should be if they are Catholic.
In addition, their public statements put them solidly in the camp with Hans Kung and Karl Rahner as opponents of the Catholic Church, not faithful or any other kind of Catholics no matter what they want to claim to the contrary. The result is, . . . nothing. No matter what sort of screw-up may have happened, there’s no way around the fact that those who have standing in politics, the very same persons the Pope has referred to in the past as needing to be denied Communion, presented themselves and their behavior was ignored.
The case can and will be made that those who have sufficient political clout don’t have to worry about anything the Pope or the Church say. Furthermore, here’s “proof” for people to point to and argue that this Pope is already a hollow shell who doesn’t mean what he says and who can therefore safely be ignored. After all, he just allowed the very people he said should be denied communion, to take communion. Pretty hollow, indeed. No matter what is said to the contrary, there has already been a solid case made that Catholics don’t have anything to worry about when they defy the Church because political power, specifically US political power, nullifies and superceeds Church Teaching and Canon Law.
So, who cares what the HHS mandate says and whether or not it survies a USSC test? Catholics will know they're still free to support politicians who advocate abortion and contraceptives. Which is the battle King Barry and the democrat fascists really care about, the battle over holding onto Catholic votes. The HHS mandate is nice if you can get it, but it’s peanuts compared to losing millions of votes when people think they may actually be called to account over violations of Canon Law.
Especially older, wealthier, Catholic voters who might be starting to worry more about the afterlife than their sex life. Sure, there may be some reason for this other than the Church deliberately putting political standing ahead of Canon Law. So what? As of now, it’s an uphill battle to fight the propaganda that even when politicians deliberately insult the Pope, the Church, and Canon Law, all in one move by even presenting themselves in the first place, the Church will meekly help them make the insult stick.
Either the Truth is important or it’s not.
Either the Church is teaching the Truth, or it’s not.
Either Canon Law applies to Catholics or it doesn’t.
If the Church is teaching the Truth, why does the Truth take a back seat to what may have been portrayed as a diplomatic incident, something that actually doesn’t make any sense at all since this was a Church function they were attending, not a State visit to the Vatican State?
This WILL lead to the Church being mauled by a pack of dogs and probably very soon.
IMHO, it will lead to much worse than any potential “diplomatic incident” and be much more difficult to deal with.
More important than any of that, though, is just how many within Church hierarchy have so little Faith that they worry over potential diplomatic consequences more than over the consequences of ignoring Canon Law and Scripture? That’s the real question, not what sort of scum take advantage of that lack of Faith, but just who the faithless party is that makes this sort of decision if not the Pope. This Pope has made the very public and widely quoted statement that politicians exactly like Pelosi and Biden should be denied communion. I actually believe he would stand by that but I also believe someone made very sure the Pope didn’t recognize these two for what that are.
There are those in the Vatican who are well aware of what sort of scum King Barry sent and they are already working hard to make sure the Pope looks bad over his stand on politicians being refused communion. Just how much help someone has within the hierarchy if they’re working to make the Pope look bad is an exercise left to the reader.
People who understand US politics very, very, well were at work in this and the Vatican not only blew it, they aided and abetted the perps.
JMHO
=PATHETIC...when I went to Catholic School, we were taught that this was causing scandal to the church.....they were right!!!
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