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The Inventions of Rome
Modern Reformation ^ | W. Robert Godfrey

Posted on 10/08/2013 7:21:16 AM PDT by Gamecock

For vast numbers of people, Roman Catholicism is the religion of choice. Rome can be attractive for a wide variety of reasons. The most significant is familial, people born into and persevering in the Roman Church. But other attractions of various sorts can be readily found: theological, philosophical, liturgical, moral, psychological, and historical.

Defenders of Protestantism over the centuries have entered the lists, confronting at great length all of Rome's attractions. Understandably, the discussions have often focused particularly on biblical and theological arguments. But historical arguments are of great importance as well. Rome often claims that it represents two thousand years of unbroken apostolic succession and practice. The implication is that no fundamental changes have taken place in the church, but only a legitimate development of principles found at the beginning. I believe that this historical claim is profoundly false, and that in the interests of truth and biblical religion it must be challenged.

The Roman Catholic Church today is at least the fourth or fifth iteration of that organization, each in basic ways different from the others. There is the ancient form, the medieval form, the Tridentine form (formed at the time of the Council of Trent, 1545–1563), and then at least two post-Tridentine forms shaped by two very different councils: Vatican I (1868–1870) and Vatican II (1962–1965). In its ancient form, Rome was in fellowship with the other Christian churches and held to Nicene orthodoxy. In its medieval form, it separated from other Christian churches insisting on absolute Roman supremacy, defining certain doctrines such as transubstantiation, but leaving many other doctrines (such as justification and the authority of tradition) open to discussion. In its Tridentine form, it defined many more doctrines, cutting itself off from its medieval form by condemning views it had then tolerated. In its post-Tridentine forms, it theoretically upholds the decisions of Trent, but in practice moves beyond and contrary to Trent. As the Tridentine church claimed to supplement the Bible with tradition, but in fact used its traditions to contradict the Bible, so the post-Tridentine church has claimed to supplement Trent with other teachings, but in fact has used those other teachings to contradict Trent.

The extensive claims of the previous paragraph cannot be elaborated or substantiated in the space of this article. My purpose is simply to present some of the statements of the sixteenth-century Council of Trent and the nineteenth-century First Vatican Council in which historical claims for the Roman church are made, and then evaluate those claims in light of history.

Scripture and Tradition

In the sixteenth century, the Reformers taught that the Bible alone was the church's ultimate authority, while the Roman Catholics responded that tradition along with Scripture were the authority for the church. The Council of Trent defined this Roman position in these terms:

Seeing clearly that this truth and discipline are contained in the written books, and the unwritten traditions which, received by the Apostles from the mouth of Christ himself, or from the Apostles themselves, the Holy Ghost dictating, have come down even unto us, transmitted as it were from hand to hand. (1)

This position continued to characterize the Tridentine church as it was reiterated in almost identical language by the First Vatican Council (1870). (2) In the decrees of these two councils, we read nothing of evolving or developing traditions. Instead, the historical claim made by each is crystal clear: the authoritative traditions of the Roman Church were taught by the apostles in the first century. Such a claim is entirely untenable, as any informed Roman Catholic must acknowledge today. And so many Roman apologists now seek to show how current Roman teachings and practices, supposedly based on tradition, have progressed and grown from a kernel of truth found in the time of the apostles, and thereby justify contemporary practice. The problem with such an apologetic is that it contradicts what Trent and the First Vatican Council declared.

John Calvin, in one of the most trenchant early criticisms of Trent, remarkably turned the table on Rome saying, in effect, that he would accept the authority of apostolic tradition as defined by Trent if the Romanists could offer historical proof for their claims of tradition. Calvin recognized already in the sixteenth century that such proof could not be presented. (3) Historical studies since then have made Trent's claims even more impossible to demonstrate.

As we examine the decisions of Trent carefully, we find various places in which it claims the authority of tradition as the foundation of its teaching, particularly with respect to the sacrament of the Lord's Supper.

Transubstantiation
Trent teaches that its doctrine of transubstantiation is not only a perpetual, but also a sincere and firm commitment of the church even in ancient times:

And because that Christ, our Redeemer, declared that which he offered under the species of bread to be truly his own body, therefore, has it ever been a firm belief in the Church of God, and this holy Synod doth now declare it anew, that, by the consecration of the bread and of the wine, a conversion is made of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord, and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. (4)

Adoration of the Host
Trent also teaches that worshipping the consecrated bread and wine of the Lord's Supper is an apostolic tradition going back to the earliest days of the church:

Wherefore, there is no room left for doubt, that all the faithful of Christ may, according to the custom ever received in the Catholic Church, render in veneration the worship of latria, which is due to the true God, to this most holy sacrament. (5)

Sacrifice of the Mass
Remarkably, Trent also declares both that the Mass was an unbloody, propitiatory sacrifice for the sins of the living and the dead, and that this was the consensus of the apostolic tradition:

And forasmuch as, in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the mass, that same Christ is contained and immolated in an unbloody manner who once offered himself in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross; the holy Synod teaches, that this sacrifice is truly propitiatory....Wherefore, not only for the sins, punishments, satisfactions, and other necessities of the faithful who are living, but also for those who are departed in Christ, and who are not as yet fully purified, is it rightly offered, agreeably to a tradition of the apostles. (6)

Suffice it to say, no reputable church historian would confirm any of these historical claims of the Council of Trent. Even if some very ancient support for some of these teachings were found, it would not substantiate Trent's claims of clear and broad acceptance of them in the early period of the ancient church.

Scripture and Its Interpretation

In addition to its decisions on tradition, Trent further decreed that only the church could properly interpret the meaning of the Bible, and further claimed that this position was the unanimous teaching of the church fathers:

Furthermore, in order to restrain petulant spirits, it decrees, that no one, relying on his own skill, shall, in matters of faith, and of morals pertaining to the edification of Christian doctrine,—wresting the sacred Scripture to his own senses, presume to interpret the said sacred Scripture contrary to that sense which holy mother Church,—whose it is to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the holy Scriptures,—hath held and doth hold; or even contrary to the unanimous consent of the Fathers. (7)

The position articulated by Trent against sola scriptura has rightly sometimes been called sola ecclesia (by the church alone). It is not so much the Bible and tradition that determine the truth as the decisions of the church as to the meaning of the Bible and tradition. Here too, however, Rome's claim is not that its teachings have evolved, but that it teaches what the whole church and the fathers of the church have always taught. Calvin saw that in fact Rome did not give any real authority to the Bible. Rather, Rome made the Bible into a wax nose that would be reshaped to mean whatever Rome wanted it to mean. (8)

Calvin indeed recognized an important role for the church in interpreting the Bible, but has a very different notion of what the church is. For Rome, the church is the authoritative hierarchy that by its power decides the meaning of the Bible. For Calvin, the interpretation of the Bible in difficult matters should be given to learned members of the church to study the meaning of the Bible humbly and submissively. (9)

The question remains, of course, as to who exactly determines the meaning of the Bible and tradition for the Roman Catholic Church. Some in the sixteenth century looked to the great theological faculties in the universities. Many believed that only the pope and ecumenical councils could speak for the whole church. That is the view enshrined in the Tridentine Profession of Faith of 1564, issued by Pope Pius IV after the Council of Trent had adjourned and made binding on all who taught in the Roman Church. (10) This profession declared the necessity of following the pope and the ecumenical councils:

X. I acknowledge the holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church for the mother and mistress of all churches; and I promise and swear true obedience to the Bishop of Rome, successor of St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and Vicar of Jesus Christ.

XI. I likewise undoubtingly receive and profess all other things delivered, defined, and declared by the Sacred Canons and General Councils, and particularly by the holy Council of Trent. (11)

The point to take note of here is that the Tridentine Profession of Faith assumes the authority of the ecumenical councils as well as popes, and further, assumes the agreement of popes and councils. In fact, the historical reality is quite the contrary to Rome's claims, for the pope historically rejected what ecumenical councils said about Rome.
Consider the famous sixth canon of the Council of Nicaea (325):

The ancient custom, which has obtained in Egypt, Libya, and the Pentapolis, shall continue in force, viz.: that the bishop of Alexandria have rule over all these [provinces], since this also is customary with the bishop of Rome. Likewise also at Antioch and in the other eparchies, the churches shall retain their prerogatives. (12)

Clearly the Council of Nicaea knew nothing of the notion that the bishop of Rome ruled over all the churches. Obstinately, Rome has not submitted to this canon of an ecumenical council, thus challenging the notion of pope-and-council harmony.

A second and more surprising example can be taken from the second ecumenical council of Constantinople (381). At that time, the bishop of Constantinople was declared to have "the precedence in honor, next to the bishop of Rome." (13) The meaning of this statement is explained more fully in the twenty-eighth canon of the fourth ecumenical council, the Council of Chalcedon (451). After expressing its agreement with the Council of Constantinople on the bishop of Constantinople, the canon continued:

For with reason did the fathers confer prerogatives...on the throne [the episcopal chair] of ancient Rome, on account of her character as the imperial city...; and, moved by the same consideration, the hundred and fifty bishops [at the Council of Constantinople] recognized the same prerogatives...also in the most holy throne of New Rome [Constantinople]; and with good reason judging, that the city, which is honored with the imperial dignity and the senate [i.e., where the emperor and senate reside], and enjoys the same [municipal] privileges as the ancient imperial Rome, should also be equally elevated in ecclesiastical respects, and be the second after her. (14)

The papal legates at the council protested this canon, but the council passed it anyway. Clearly the great ecumenical council did not acknowledge the right of the pope to determine its actions. Important to note is that for the council the discussion of the honor accorded to the bishop of Rome was purely a matter of its relation to the imperial system. No mention is made of Christ or Peter in this matter. This canon is also rejected by Rome, again challenging the notion that popes and councils have always agreed.

Vatican I and Papal Infallibility

In many ways, the logical culmination of Rome's claims for itself was the declaration of the First Vatican Council (1870) regarding the authority and infallibility of the pope. This council reiterated that what it taught about the pope was "in accordance with the ancient and constant faith of the universal Church." (15) Further, it insisted that the doctrine of papal authority over the whole church is necessary for salvation: "Hence we teach and declare that by the appointment of the Lord the Roman Church possesses a superiority of ordinary power over all other churches....This is the teaching of the Catholic faith, from which no one can deviate without loss of faith and salvation." (16)

The irony and historical inaccuracy of this statement is outrageous. To abide by this teaching, the Eastern churches and many Western churches of the ancient period are read out of the true church without a moment's hesitation. The absolute authority of the bishop of Rome is not only ancient and universal, one most held to be Roman Catholic, but it is also necessary for salvation for everyone.

The council goes beyond asserting the authority of the pope over all churches. It also declares that he is infallible in his official teaching. The more familiar section of the declaration is as follows: "Adhering to the tradition received from the beginning of the Christian faith...we teach and define...that the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra...is possessed of that infallibility." (17) In context, the assertion about the pope is actually even stronger: "This See of holy Peter remains ever free from all blemish of error." (18) Has anyone ever believed that?

The pope who called and directed the First Vatican Council was Pius IX. In perfect harmony with the sentiments of the statements, when it was suggested to him that he at least seek the advice of bishops and the tradition of the church in matters of doctrine, Pius IX answered, "Tradition, I am tradition." (19) For the Tridentine Roman Church, its authority truly is sola papa (by the pope alone). The arrogance of Pius IX and his council is truly staggering. Few Roman Catholic scholars in the post-Tridentine church accept these sweeping claims as being either historical or binding.

The Ongoing Need for Reformation

Since Calvin's time, Rome has continued its defense of itself through complicated arguments full of distinctions made after the fact. I have quoted at length from two of Rome's own ecumenical councils to show how great is the distance between what the documents say and how Rome treats them. Rome's historical arguments are simply not credible, though most Roman Catholics either do not know them or do not think about them. Those that do know them in the end follow the founder of the Jesuits, Ignatius Loyola, who wrote: "If we wish to proceed securely in all things, we must hold fast to the following principle: What seems to me white, I will believe black if the hierarchical Church so defines." (20) Such a position is not worthy of a Christian or of biblical religion. (21)

And Furthermore...



1 [ Back ] Philip Schaff, Creeds of Christendom (Grand Rapids: Baker Books, 1998), 2:80.
2 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:241.
3 [ Back ] John Calvin, "Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, with the Antidote," Selected Works (Grand Rapids: Baker Books, 1983), 3:69ff.
4 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:130.
5 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:131.
6 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:179ff.
7 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:83.
8 [ Back ] Calvin, 69.
9 [ Back ] Calvin, 74ff.
10 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 1:97.
11 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:209.
12 [ Back ] Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1910), 3:275.
13 [ Back ] Schaff, History, 3:277.
14 [ Back ] Schaff, History, 3:279.
15 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:258.
16 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:262ff.
17 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:270.
18 [ Back ] Schaff, Creeds, 2:269.
19 [ Back ] Cited in Robert Strimple, "The Relationship between Scripture and Tradition in Contemporary Roman Catholic Theology," Westminster Theological Journal 40 (Fall 1977), 29.
20 [ Back ] Cited in Lewis W. Spitz, The Protestant Reformation, 1517–1559 (New York: Harper and Row, 1985), 306.
21 [ Back ]


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1 posted on 10/08/2013 7:21:16 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
"The Roman Catholic Church today is at least the fourth or fifth iteration of that organization, each in basic ways different from the others. There is the ancient form, the medieval form, the Tridentine form (formed at the time of the Council of Trent, 1545–1563), and then at least two post-Tridentine forms shaped by two very different councils: Vatican I (1868–1870) and Vatican II (1962–1965). In its ancient form, Rome was in fellowship with the other Christian churches and held to Nicene orthodoxy. In its medieval form, it separated from other Christian churches insisting on absolute Roman supremacy, defining certain doctrines such as transubstantiation, but leaving many other doctrines (such as justification and the authority of tradition) open to discussion. In its Tridentine form, it defined many more doctrines, cutting itself off from its medieval form by condemning views it had then tolerated. In its post-Tridentine forms, it theoretically upholds the decisions of Trent, but in practice moves beyond and contrary to Trent. As the Tridentine church claimed to supplement the Bible with tradition, but in fact used its traditions to contradict the Bible, so the post-Tridentine church has claimed to supplement Trent with other teachings, but in fact has used those other teachings to contradict Trent."

PLEASE! Do NOT lift up the corners! It is cleaner and easier for followers to grasp a simple story! -Rome


2 posted on 10/08/2013 7:27:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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To: Gamecock

Simply more Catholic bashing from a pseudo sophisticated heretic. Take a good honest look at the decadence and agnostic nihilism that the Reformation has spawned. Most Protestant sects have devolved into anything goes neo pagan earth worshipers.


3 posted on 10/08/2013 7:28:44 AM PDT by allendale
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To: metmom; Alex Murphy
Rome made the Bible into a wax nose that would be reshaped to mean whatever Rome wanted it to mean.
4 posted on 10/08/2013 7:30:43 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Gamecock
Rome often claims that it represents two thousand years of unbroken apostolic succession and practice. The implication is that no fundamental changes have taken place in the church, but only a legitimate development of principles found at the beginning. I believe that this historical claim is profoundly false, and that in the interests of truth and biblical religion it must be challenged.

Ping for later

5 posted on 10/08/2013 7:34:17 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: allendale; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Care to actually discuss any part of the above article or is poisioning the well your best rebuttal?


6 posted on 10/08/2013 7:35:10 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Gamecock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDumU0TSrY


7 posted on 10/08/2013 7:35:37 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Proving what? A Pentecostal, who certainly doesn't fall under the umbrella of Reformation Era Protestant Faith is disillusioned by his theological error and trades it for another?
8 posted on 10/08/2013 7:39:05 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: allendale

The Republican party is back to being conservative, an American is in the White House, unemployment is below 5%, foreign aid has been slashed, the Fair Tax has been instated, our troops are home, islam has been defeated, the border is closed, and all unconstitutional laws have been repealed; therefore, they have plenty of time to play “my brand of Christianity is better than yours.”


9 posted on 10/08/2013 7:49:59 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Gamecock

Though I don’t agree with the writer, I want to let you know I appreciate you posting a Reformed view of the RCC that keeps the tone scholarly and subdued.

I think Catholics and Reformed should be blunt about where our beliefs differ and do so without sacrificing the Christian charity we owe one another.

My prayer for you and all Reformed, is that Christ will always be with you in this world and that you enjoy eternal joy with Him in the next.


10 posted on 10/08/2013 7:52:21 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
John Calvin, in one of the most trenchant early criticisms of Trent, remarkably turned the table on Rome saying, in effect, that he would accept the authority of apostolic tradition as defined by Trent if the Romanists could offer historical proof for their claims of tradition. Calvin recognized already in the sixteenth century that such proof could not be presented. (3) Historical studies since then have made Trent's claims even more impossible to demonstrate.

Really now!

There has been a great deal of Patristic literature that has come to light since Calvin's time. I'd like this author to point out exactly *which* of Trent's claims he finds impossible to demonstrate.

And it's beyond obvious to me anyway that the go-to Patristic texts that Calvinists use (on free will) for instance, are a close set of pre-selected quotations that back up their position--and they summarily ignore everything else with a dismissive wave of the hand.

Take Augustine--the sine qua non of Calvinist theology. It is beyond dispute that Augustine taught the doctrine of free will. Yet you bring up his letters to Valentinus where he taught it and what's the response? Foot shuffling, mumbling "well, he didn't MEAN that" or "well he was wrong about that."

And if that wasn't bad enough, the almost monomaniacal reliance on St. Augustine completely ignores the teaching of the Greek Fathers--which no Christian has any right to do. Augustine himself--like any Father--cannot be judged on his own but in relation to the totality of the tradition. If St. Augustine can't be squared with the Greek, Syrian and Egyptian Fathers then we darn well ought to be suspicious of why.

Finally. This business about "iterations" of Roman Catholicism. Yes, there is development of doctrine. Yes, there are theological diferences between East and West, as there are between the Catholic/Orthodox and the Oriental Orthodox. But add up all those differences and you still don't have even one *tenth* of the differences any of those Apostolic branches have from Calvin--where the True Presence and the sacrifice of the Holy Sacrament of the Altar is most impiously denied for who the hell knows what reason except pure rationalism.

Calvin invented a new religion. The supposed pure Christianity that he was going back to never existed except in his head. Oh sure, you may find bits, scraps, and pieces of Patristic theology that can be cut apart and glued back together in some sort of freakish heretical collage to back up Calvinist claims. But you know what you won't find in the Patristic sources?

A Calvinist whole, entire, and complete.

They just plain didn't exist. And if you dispute me, then find me one.

11 posted on 10/08/2013 7:53:45 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud
But you know what you won't find in the Patristic sources?

Nor will you find a 21st Centuray Roman Catholic. Which is the author's point.

12 posted on 10/08/2013 8:11:01 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: goodwithagun

Christianity is much more important than any of that. If people in America became truely Christian, many of the issues you cite would be resolved.


13 posted on 10/08/2013 8:15:10 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Isn’t Rome the place that ruled when Jesus was nailed to the cross?

Anyway, I bow to God/Jesus not to Rome. I don’t need any bureaucracy between me and my God.


14 posted on 10/08/2013 8:15:37 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Gamecock

Inventions of Protestantism:

Welch’s Grape Juice
“Symbolic” Eucharist
Sola Scriptura
Sola Fide
Roll Your Own Theology...


15 posted on 10/08/2013 8:16:24 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Gamecock

So he made up all that stuff about Ignatius of Antioch, etc.?


16 posted on 10/08/2013 8:16:44 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Claud

In Calvin’s defense, they didn’t have lawyers way back then...

:)


17 posted on 10/08/2013 8:17:55 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: goodwithagun

You’ve got it backwards. God and faith are supposed to be at the top of the list of priorities, and petty human politics near the bottom.


18 posted on 10/08/2013 8:20:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Gamecock
Those that do know them in the end follow the founder of the Jesuits, Ignatius Loyola, who wrote: "If we wish to proceed securely in all things, we must hold fast to the following principle: What seems to me white, I will believe black if the hierarchical Church so defines." (20) Such a position is not worthy of a Christian or of biblical religion. (21)

Also, since I count myself as a spiritual son of the great St. Ignatius I cannot let this damnable error continue to be promulgated.

Read what St. Ignatius actually said:

"What seems to me white, I will believe black, if the hierarchical Church so defines".

What seems to me white. SEEMS. To ME

In other words, it isn't really white, it just looks that way because of my own personal perception--but the Church, with the benefit of the Holy Ghost, has decided otherwise. It is therefore incumbent on me--whatever I think--to abandon what I think as erroneous and accept what the Church teaches.

It is, in fact, the contrary position which has so infected the Western Church that is not worthy of the Christian religion--that if such and such a doctrine seems to me white, then I have the right via the principle of Sola Scriptura to interpret it my way and then repudiate the Church at large. That is damnable heresy, and it's why the unity of the Church has been shattered into not just two branches or three or four--but innumerable miniscule shards of mutually anathematizing communities.

19 posted on 10/08/2013 8:21:47 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Gamecock
Nor will you find a 21st Centuray Roman Catholic. Which is the author's point.

The author is wrong.

What position would I be anathematized for, were I to stand before any of the Councils on taint of heresy?

I could cite plenty for you.

20 posted on 10/08/2013 8:24:51 AM PDT by Claud
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