Posted on 10/27/2013 5:25:55 AM PDT by NYer
Oh but the rest came from your Catholic Church!
If you really wanted it read then you wouldn’t have began with a false premise.
It’s the RCC that says they incorporated pagan practices.
Ain't that the truth. Talking to the Catholics about the infallibility and inerrancy of scripture is like trying to talk to a liberal that their health care insurance is either going to go away or premiums will rise. The only way they'll understand it is when they finally see it. :O)
You: "God did."
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Since there were numerous conflicting "canon lists" in the early years of the Church (and they can't possibly all be right or directly defined, either by God, or by the original apostles, because those canon lists do contain real differences between them), exactly where and when did God say which "books" belong in the Bible (source), and specifically who did God tell this to?
How do you know this happened?
Was that vitally important instruction (about which writings were to be included in the Bible) then written within the Bible itself, or was that vitally important, indispensable instruction something that was passed down to others via some form of extra-biblical (outside-the-Bible) tradition?
Also, do I understand you correctly -- that you seriously think that "all Catholics are wrong", and you also think that "all Protestants are wrong", and you also think that "CynicalBear is right"?
>> Also, do I understand you correctly -- that you seriously think that "all Catholics are wrong", and you also think that "all Protestants are wrong", and you also think that "CynicalBear is right"?<<
LOL Catholics are so funny! Only scripture is right.
So, then we should all just ignore every single thing you write that is not a direct quote form scripture, because "only scripture is right"?
As with this list, uncritically posting from RC polemics ignores the context of Luther’s quote, as this quote it is part of a polemic of Luther, in which he goes on to say:
“But what is now our defense? And what is the ground on which we can hold our own against such offense and continue to defy those people? It is nothing else than the masterly statement St. Paul employs in Rom. 9:7 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] : “Not all are children of Abraham because they are his descendants.” Not all who bear the name are Israelites; or, as the saying goes: “Not all who carry long knives are cooks.” Thus not all who lay claim to the title “church” are the church....
See below link for all of this and the Master Archive (side bar) before pasting more RC quotes of Luther, many of which are spurious or doubtful (not to justify all he said, as he is not our pope). http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2006/11/luther-infallible-church-declared.html
Seems only fair. It’s what I do with Catholics.
Your answer: "Seems only fair. It’s what I do with Catholics."
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Trust me, we all know that already, CynicalBear. That's the major cause of your massive misunderstandings.
Now, seriously, if "only scripture is right", why do you keep on writing so much endless stuff that is not scripture, and so, by your own definition, is "not right" (in other words, what you write is "all wrong", per your own definition)?
Don't you think it would be much preferable to cease writing so much wrong stuff, and better for your soul?
So show me what I wrote that wasn’t backed up by scripture.
Yeshua founded no ‘church’ that rejects his spoken words.
Your ‘church’ was founded by Satan, through Constantine, in the mid fourth century. That is solid recorded history that cannot be denied.
>> “Catholic, protestant/ muslim, Jewish, or pagan.
Feel better now?” <<
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Noticeably, you left out “The Way” founded by Yehova through his Son, Yeshua.
Consntantine legalized Catholicism==that’s all. I don’t know where you get the ideas -— want to tell me?
Christ breathed on the Apostles on Easter Day giving them the power to forgive or bind sin, thus making them the first Bishops — look it up in Scripture.
Even Paul lays his hands on Timothy and ordains him — it’s in the Bible, why don’t you believe it?
What Constantine “legalized” was the crushing of the worship of Yeshua, replacing it with the worship of Tammuz and his harlot mother under proxy names purloined from Yeshua and his mother.
Constantine used the power of Rome to persecute the followers of Yeshua, and the followers of Judaism, murdering thousands of them.
That is recorded history.
it is through the efforts of the Catholic Church that you even know what the scriptures are...
Where do you get this misinformation? You post no sources at all.
BTW, Yeshua Breathed on his Apostles at the time of his ascension, shortly before Shavuot, and had absolutely nothing to do with the vile pagan celebration called ‘Easter.’
Typical catholic ignorance of the plain facts recorded in scripture.
Bishops are just pastors, IOW teachers, Apostle was a decidedly separate office that no longer exists. There were only 12 Apostles (not counting Judas who never was given that office)
Very wise and measured statements. I told Daniel1212 if it was not stated who posted the article, my first guess would be an atheist website.
the destruction of the Catholic church in England, her churches, monastaries, libraries and citizens makes the inquisition just another bad period....the inquisition was justified in the minds of those people because they felt that they were the last line of defense of Christianity as the hoardes of revolutionists began to develop.
then, of course there were the Salem witch trials.....oh well!!!
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