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Four 'blood-red' total lunar eclipses will fall on Passover and Sukkot in 2014 and 2015
Koenig International News ^ | May 13, 2008 | Bill Koenig

Posted on 12/29/2013 5:22:47 PM PST by Star Traveler

Acts 2:20 (KJV): The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come.

Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries in Puyallup, Washington click here has been sharing with us some remarkable discoveries on the blood-red moon and Jewish feast connections in the past three months. He now has some new discoveries.

I have known Mark for four years and have spoken at his church twice in the Tacoma, Washington, area. He has been an avid student and teacher of the Jewish Feasts and their awe-inspiring connections to the Lord's earthly events.

Mark said he had found my blood-red moon work interesting and began looking into possible connection to past and future Jewish Feasts at which time he found very significant connections.

I have provided blood-red moon information, and information on the coming total solar eclipses of 2008, 2009 and 2010—which all fall on the 1st of Av.

Seven back-to-back, blood-red moons have fallen on the first day of Passover and Sukkot, with the eighth time coming in 2014 and 2015

Mark found that we have had blood-red moons on the first day of Passover and the first day of Sukkot on back-to-back years seven times since 1 A.D. Three of these occurrences were connected to 1492 (the final year of the Spanish Inquisition), 1948 (statehood for Israel and the War of Independence), and 1967 (the Six-Day War) — some of the most significant days in Jewish history.

So what does the period of time from 2013 to 2015 portend for Israel and the world?

(Excerpt) Read more at watch.org ...


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Well ... something big is going to happen with these coming Blood Moons! And it will be in connection with the Jews, and by association - Israel, as the homeland for the Jews.

This article was written back in 2008, by Bill Koenig. Bill is a fully accredited White House Correspondent, too, and reports on world news.

1 posted on 12/29/2013 5:22:47 PM PST by Star Traveler
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Something about the author ...

ABOUT WILLIAM KOENIG

William Koenig was born in 1954 in Phoenix, Arizona, the son of Joan Koenig and the late Virgil Koenig.

Virgil, a Marine pilot, flew Corsairs in the Pacific during World War II and won the Distinguished Flying Cross as an F7F Tigercat night-bomber in the Korean Conflict.

Joan was a market research specialist for Proctor & Gamble, which today ranks in the top 25 of the Fortune 500. She received her master’s degree in political science from Arizona State University and was active in the Democratic Party in Arizona.

Joan and Virgil enjoyed business successes in aviation, farming and ranching.

William attended Casa Grande Union High School in Casa Grande, Arizona, serving as class president for three years and student body president his senior year. He was an honor student and active in sports.

He received a principal appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis. He was a member of the Presidential Classroom for Young Americans in Washington, D.C., which provides young leaders with an extraordinary academic and leadership experience. He was an alternate senator for Arizona for Boys Nation. He received a Medallion of Merit Scholarship from Arizona State University in Tempe.

William graduated from Arizona State University with a B.S. in Communications. He was a member of the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity. He was a two-time student senator, vice president of Boys Federation, and a member of Archons Greek Honorary. He was active in intramural sports.

He embarked on a business career in 1978 with Coldwell Banker Commercial (now CBRE/CB Richard Ellis), a major international real estate company. He began his work in Phoenix, transferring to Dallas, Texas in 1979. He worked with two other commercial real estate companies in Dallas before starting his own brokerage and investment company in 1984.

In a career change during the summer of 1996, William began publishing “Koenig’s Watch,” a weekly summary of important Middle East and world news. He moved the publication online in late 1996, expanding the coverage and becoming “Koenig International News” (watch.org).

The news service has readers and e-mail subscribers in all 50 U.S. states and 105 countries.

In early 1999, William produced the audiotape, “Countdown 2000,” discussing ten major events to watch moving into the new century.

He moved his news organization to Washington, D.C., in 2001 and became a White House correspondent.

His experience at the White House has provided extraordinary behind-the-scenes experience and insight. He has learned much from the White House visits of world leaders, the daily routines and events of our nation’s capital, and some of the most significant news events in our nation’s history.

He writes a weekly 14-page news report called “Koenig’s Eye View from the White House,” that focuses on world news that is biblically relevant and White House news from a Christian perspective.

In 2001, he co-authored a book with John McTernan, Israel: The Blessing or the Curse.

In February 2004, he authored Eye to Eye - Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel,” which was revised and updated in July 2006. The book is in its 14th printing.

He has traveled extensively to 49 U.S. states and 32 countries on six continents.

He was a member of First Baptist Dallas and Dallas Theological Seminary’s President’s Council before moving to Washington.

William and his wife, Claudia, reside in the Washington metropolitan area. They attend McLean Bible Church in McLean, Virginia.

http://www.williamkoenig.com/about/


2 posted on 12/29/2013 5:25:07 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Isaiah has some passages that some believe will come to pass in 9/15


3 posted on 12/29/2013 5:31:35 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Star Traveler

You can also listen to a ministry broadcast from Olive Tree Ministries, with Jan Markell - interviewing Pastor Mark Blitz.

Olive Tree Ministries notes on the broadcast.

Jan talks to Pastor Mark Biltz asking him if the 2014-2015 blood moons are a significant sign in the Heavens? The Bible asks us to watch for signs in the Heavens. Observing these forthcoming blood moons is not an exercise in date-setting for end-time events. In the past, the blood moon tetrads (four in a row) took place within date patterns that dramatically affected Israel and then the world. Biltz has never suggested that the Rapture or any other end-time event will fit into this pattern as some accuse. He found the information on the NASA Web site and is reporting on how it has played out in history and how it could play out in the future. Jan also talks about two Hollywood films that were made to mock and scoff Jesus’ return, a definite sign of the time.

Go to this link ...
http://www.olivetreeviews.org/radio/complete-archives

The program is dated December 21, 2013.


4 posted on 12/29/2013 5:32:34 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Mamzelle

This is a little bit different here. What you’re talking about is something is said in the Bible - and then - one wonders WHEN that is going to happen.

IN THIS EVENT ... it’s the REVERSE of that. HERE we have something that we know EXACTLY WHEN it’s going to happen - but - we don’t know WHAT is going to happen.

So, in abbreviated form, you point out the WHAT, but you don’t know WHEN. But here, we know WHEN, but we don’t know WHAT!


5 posted on 12/29/2013 5:37:39 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
William Koenig was born in 1954 in Phoenix, Arizona, the son of Joan Koenig and the late Virgil Koenig.

Any relation to Walter?


6 posted on 12/29/2013 5:38:14 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

I couldn’t say, because I don’t know, but there is a contact address for Bill Koenig, on his page, if you want to ask him ... :-) ...


7 posted on 12/29/2013 5:41:15 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks. Wasn’t being flippant, it’s just an unusual surname. Interesting if they were.


8 posted on 12/29/2013 5:44:01 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Star Traveler

The Coming BLOOD MOONS

We found the “blood-red moon” work interesting and began looking into possible connections to past and future “Jewish Feasts”… and to our amazement found there are very significant connections and trust that you will find this teaching fascinating too!

“And I will show wonders in the heavens, and in the earth, blood and fire and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of Jehovah.” Joel 2:30 -31

“The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, before that great and glorious Day of the Lord.” Acts 2:20

The Jewish Talmud (book of tradition / Interpretation) says; “When the moon is in eclipse, it is a bad omen for Israel. If its face is as red as blood, (it is a sign that) the sword is coming to the world.” Therefore: Lunar Eclipse = bad omen for the Jewish people and Israel; Blood Moon = sword coming; Solar Eclipse = bad omen for the world.

Four, blood moons on Jewish Feast days within two years in Israel is very rare and has only occurred seven times since the time of Yeshua (Jesus). There are now four blood moons scheduled to appear in 2014/2015 and then there will NOT be any for the next 100 years.

Every time a blood moon pattern has appeared on Jewish feast days a big event affects the nation of Israel. The event affecting Israel begins just before the actual years of the blood moons. To understand what will happen in the 2014 - 2015 “blood moons” you must understand the pattern of blood moons in the past.

NASA found that we have had “blood-red moons” on the first day of Passover and the first day of Sukkoth on back-to-back years seven times since 1 A.D. Three of these occurrences were connected to 1492 (the year the Jews were expelled from Spain by Queen Isabella) , 1948 (statehood for Israel and the War of Independence), and 1967 (the Six-Day War) — some of the most significant days in Jewish history. According to NASA - Four ‘blood-red’ TOTAL lunar eclipses WILL fall again on Passover and Sukkoth in 2014 and 2015… the same back-to-back occurrences at the time of 1492, 1948 and 1967.

Seven back-to-back, blood-red moons have fallen on the first day of Passover and Sukkoth, with the “eighth time”… coming in 2014 and 2015.

The meaning of the number “Eight”in the Bible is “New Beginnings”… The eighth day was new after God rested. There are 7 days in a week and the 8th day is a new beginning. Christ rose on the 8th day which was a new beginning for the world.

When the whole earth was covered with the flood, it was Noah “the eighth person” (2 Peter 2:5) who stepped out on to a new earth to commence a new order of things. “Eight souls” (1 Peter 3:20) passed through to the new or re-generated world.

Hence, too, circumcision was to be performed on the “eighth day” (Genesis 17:12), because it was the fore-shadowing of the true circumcision of the heart, that which was to be “made without hands,” even “the putting off of the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ” (Colossians 2:11). This is connected with the new creation.

The first-born was to be given to Jehovah on the “eighth day” (Exodus 22: 29, 30)… and the Resurrection of Yeshua (Jesus) is ultimately signified when He rose from the dead on “the first day of the week,” (Mark 16:9) that was of necessity the “eighth day.”

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There is more of this article at ...
http://www.pray4zion.org/TheComingBloodMoons.html


9 posted on 12/29/2013 5:46:15 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: COBOL2Java

Nuclear Wessles


10 posted on 12/29/2013 5:47:40 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Star Traveler

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11 posted on 12/29/2013 5:49:53 PM PST by smvoice (There are no prizes given for defending the indefensible.)
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ALSO ... an article on WorldNetDaily

Blood moons expert: Watch 2014 and 2015
http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/blood-moons-expert-watch-2014-and-2015/

Pastor John Hagee was invited by Fox News this week to discuss the significance of four blood moons coming over the next two years – on the Jewish Passovers on April 15, 2014, and April 4, 2015, and the Feasts of Tabernacles on Oct. 8, 2014, and Sept. 28, 2015.

Such events have occurred only three other times in recent centuries, and each time they were linked to significant events for the Jewish nation, as outlined in Hagee’s new book, “Four Blood Moons: Something is about to Change.”

For example, when it happened in 1493 and 1494 Jews were expelled from Spain. The blood moons in 1949 and 1950 came right after the nation of Israel was assembled, giving the Jews a homeland for the first time in thousands of years.

And in 1967 and 1968 it was linked to the Six-Day War.

“This is something that just is beyond coincidental,” Hagee told Fox. He explained that the prophecies in the Bible note that when the sun refuses to shine – and a solar eclipse is expected in the 2014-2015 time frame – and the moon will be turned to blood, then man’s redemption draweth near.

In the Old Testament, the prophet Joel states, “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.” (Joel 2:31)

In the New Testament, Jesus is quoted as saying: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light. … And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” (Matthew 24:29-30)

Acts 2 states: “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood and fire and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes.”

Pastor Mark Biltz talked with WND about the issue, elaborating on the information provided in Hagee’s book.


12 posted on 12/29/2013 5:50:13 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I’ll just point out that the lunar eclipse falling on Passover 2014 won’t be experienced in Israel.


13 posted on 12/29/2013 5:50:33 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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That was mentioned in the radio program that I posted up above. The answer was that these were signs for the world. I would tend to go with that ... :-) ...


14 posted on 12/29/2013 5:53:40 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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The Blood Red Moons Of 2014 And 2015: An Omen Of War For Israel?
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/the-blood-red-moons-of-2014-and-2015-an-omen-of-war-for-israel

Four TOTAL lunar eclipses occurred on the Jewish Passover and Feast of Tabernacles in 162 – 163 AD, coinciding with the worst persecution of Jews… and Christians in the history of the Roman Empire. Within 3 years the Antonine Plague killed eight million people, a third of the population.

Four TOTAL lunar eclipses occurred on the Jewish Passover and Yom Kippur Holidays in 795 – 796 AD while King Charlemagne of the Holy Roman Empire established a DMZ buffer zone between France and Spain, ending centuries of Arab invasions into Western Europe.

Four TOTAL lunar eclipses occurred on the Jewish Passover and Yom Kippur Holidays in 842 – 843 AD. Shortly after the eclipses the Vatican church in Rome was attacked and looted by an Islamic invasion from Africa.

Four TOTAL lunar eclipses occurred on the Jewish Passover and Yom Kippur Holidays in 860 – 861 AD. Shortly after the eclipses the Byzantine Empire defeated Arab armies at the Battle of Lalakaon in Turkey and permanently stopped the Islamic invasion of Eastern Europe.

Four TOTAL lunar eclipses occurred on the Jewish Passover and the Feast of Trumpets Holidays in 1493 – 1494. Only months after King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain ordered all Jewish people to leave the country (after about 200 AD, Spain became and remained a second Jewish homeland for well over a millennia. So deeply woven into the fabric of Spain are the Jews that neither history can be fully studied without considering the influence of the other).


15 posted on 12/29/2013 5:55:41 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Or a sign that Passover and Sukkot always occur during a full moon, which happens to be more-or-less the only time a lunar eclipse can occur...


16 posted on 12/29/2013 6:02:09 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Star Traveler

Messianic ‘Blood Moon’ Rising on Passover Seder Night
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/messianic-blood-moon-rising-on-passover-seder/2013/10/06/

There will be a string of four “blood moons” in the year 5775, and one of them will shine over the Passover seder. Whenever this happened in the past, enormous events took place in Jewish history.

It starts with the Book of Joel, Chapter 3:3-4: “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.”

The verse about the sun turning dark and the moon turning to blood, is at the center of a new, hot, Christian bestseller titled “Four Blood Moons,” by Pastor John Hagee. It is based on a discovery by Pastor Mark Biltz, who runs a “Hebrew roots” ministry in Tacoma, Washington: Red Moons.

Biltz’s website declares: “We do not want to convert Jews to Christianity or Christians to Judaism,” which works for me. He based his observation on the verse in Genesis 1:14: “And God said, Let there be lights in the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.”

God originally plans to use the heavenly lights as signs, and the prophet Joel foretells that a blood moon would mark the day of the Lord – then it stands to reason that some dramatic stuff should be taking place when a blood moon is up in the sky.

The science of the “blood moon” phenomenon is fairly simple. It is created by a partial lunar eclipse. When the Earth’s shadow covers the moon completely, we get a total eclipse. A partial lunar eclipse happens wen the Earth’s shadow covers the moon only partially. The earth atmosphere bends light around its edge, and scatters out shorter-wavelength light (green through violet), leaving longer-wavelength light (red, orange, and yellow) in the Earth’s shadow. This is also why sunsets and sunrises generally appear red.

As is the case with most miraculous events that can be explained scientifically, the miracle is not in the natural phenomenon, but rather in its timing. So the Book of Joel describes solar eclipse, followed by a partial lunar eclipse, as precursors of the Day of the Lord.

The prophecy in Joel, like most prophecies, is surreal, beautiful, and open to many interpretations. But we can take away from it the notion of a blood moon as a sign, and check out the calendar for the next bunch of partial lunar eclipses.

That’s what Pastor Biltz did, he looked at NASA’s tables for solar and lunar eclipses and found a string of lunar and solar eclipses happening in 2014 and 2015 and then nothing like it for the rest of the 21st century. In 2015 there will be two solar and lunar eclipses two weeks apart (on the new moon and full moon) one in the spring and one in the fall. This could possibly produce four blood moon eclipses in a row, which is definitely something to write home about.

OK, now hold on to your seats, please: we’ve had the Tetrad phenomenon (a string of four moons partially or completely eclipsed,) twice in the last century, both times on the night of the Passover seder: in 5710 (1949-50) and in 5728 (1967-68).

The year 5710 came right after the establishment of the State of Israel.

The year 5728 came right after the liberation of Jerusalem.

The next string of four blood moons is coming Passover seder night, 5775 (2014-15) – a year from this Pesach.


17 posted on 12/29/2013 6:04:50 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: jjotto

They’ve tracked these tetrads ... and they are rare, and especially in context with the Jewish Festivals .

If you want to, you can easily track them in the past, all the way out into the future, using NASA’s information, and see how rare they are.

I would have to look up the precise definition for a tetrad, but it’s something like four consecutive eclipses, with no partials n between, and I think it’s supposed to be separated by six months apart. But, again, I would have to look up the precise definition.


18 posted on 12/29/2013 6:10:36 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

What do traditional Christians think of using astrology (not just celestial mechanics) to anticipate Jesus’ return?


19 posted on 12/29/2013 6:14:35 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Star Traveler
Clint rides a Pale Horse. Is it that time.


20 posted on 12/29/2013 6:21:06 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Star Traveler
Pastor Hagee is derivative.

Mark Biltz on Prophesy in the News

Originally in 2008 on PinN

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

21 posted on 12/29/2013 6:36:31 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Mamzelle

“Isaiah has some passages that some believe will come to pass in 9/15”

and Revelation as well:

King James Version (KJV)6:12

“And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood...”


22 posted on 12/29/2013 6:38:39 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: jjotto

You might find some Christiams using Astrology - but Astrology is shunned by most of the Christian Church. Of course, “celestial mechanics” is a completely separate thing.

As far as predicting the return of Jesus, there are two separate events. One is the Rapture, and according to the Doctrine of Imminence, one won’t know exactly when that will happen, but Christians are told to be aware of the season of it’s time, just like Jesus said.

As far as the time when Jesus sets his foot on the Mount of Olives, and sets up his one-world government over the nations of the world ... once someone is inside the Tribulation, then one can know down to the day, when Jesus comes back to the earth and battles the Antichrist and the remainder of his forces on earth.

But again, that’s once someone is already inside the Tribulation. If one is outside of it, as we are now, it’s not possible to predict the day.


23 posted on 12/29/2013 6:38:54 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Maybe 2015, but the blood moon will be the 6th seal. Seals 1-5 are pretty significant and IMHO, will be much more attention grabbing before Seal 6 comes around.

It also should be noted that with Seal 6 and Bowl Judgment 6, all unbelievers will know it is God causing those judgments, but they still will not repent, nor confess to their thievery.

IMHO, Thievery is going to increase, and probably something is going to happen to develop Babylon itself as a world trading house to further prep the stage for future events.

Also be prepared for fallen angels/demons to be loosed and cause death and destruction worldwide prior to the Blood Moon events of prophecy.


24 posted on 12/29/2013 6:41:04 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Seals 1-5 have been underway for centuries.


25 posted on 12/29/2013 6:42:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Actually, if you want Pastor Mark Blitz’s website, it’s here ...

El Shaddai Ministries
http://www.elshaddaiministries.us


26 posted on 12/29/2013 6:43:15 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: editor-surveyor

So the final week of 7 years in Daniel’s 70 weeks has been underway for centuries? Don’t think so.


27 posted on 12/29/2013 6:45:53 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Star Traveler

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2010282/posts


28 posted on 12/29/2013 6:47:17 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Cvengr

No one is linking that up to these seals ... at least I don’t see it here.

Look at the other events that were related ... Israel’s establishment as a nation, and Israel’s full control over Jerusalem and sovereignty over the Temple Mount.

So, if I was betting on something, I would say a major war in the Middle East, involving Israel - perhaps the “Psalm 83 War”.


29 posted on 12/29/2013 6:48:02 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Thanks for posting this.

Things are heating up there, here and elsewhere, while the obamanation is doing who knows what or why. Something's gotta give sooner or later...it always does.

I pray for the grace to see the signs in events occurring all around us.

30 posted on 12/29/2013 6:55:27 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Star Traveler

Yeshua told us in Matthew 24 that the Rapture/Resurrection is at the 7th trump, at the end of Satan’s tribulation of the saints, at Yom Teruah.

At that time the ten days of bowl judgments will be poured out on those that worshiped the Beast or took his mark culminating at Yom Kippur. Five days after that, on Succot, Yeshua returns with his saints and angels girded for battle with Satan.

I would not count on the timing of any Lunar eclipse, but we do know that Satan is thrown down, and the Abomination occurs at Purim; we just don’t know yet what year.


31 posted on 12/29/2013 6:55:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I don’t believe that those who have been writing about this “tetrad” are saying that it’s related to any events of the second coming of Christ.

They were putting it in the framework of the same type of events that have happened in the past. And, in light of that, I would say - perhaps another major war in the Middle East, which directly involves Israel.

I referenced the “Psalm 83 War” as a possible candidate.


32 posted on 12/29/2013 7:08:56 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

All of these people that try to pin things down by Sabbath years seem to be forgetting that all of Yehova’s years begin at the new moon, when the Barley is Aviv at Jerusalem.

Using Roman calendar years just won’t work, although the tracking of astronomic events is done by NASA using the Julian calendar.


33 posted on 12/29/2013 7:09:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Star Traveler

I agree, by my understanding, that the Psalm 83 war has to precede the appearance of the abomination.


34 posted on 12/29/2013 7:11:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cvengr

The seals are the track of history from the cessation of the apostolic ministry at John’s death to the present. They could not await the 70th week to proceed.

The Revelation covers everything from Yeshua’s birth to the end, and it skips nothing.


35 posted on 12/29/2013 7:15:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
All of these people that try to pin things down by Sabbath years seem to be forgetting that all of Yehova’s years begin at the new moon, when the Barley is Aviv at Jerusalem.

Using Roman calendar years just won’t work, although the tracking of astronomic events is done by NASA using the Julian calendar.

There is some question about the abib in 2012 in the land.

The Rabbis have a calendar translate program for
converting between the Julian and Hebrew calendars.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
36 posted on 12/29/2013 7:17:27 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

You cannot “convert” from any man made calendar to Yehova’s calendar, as his calendar contains variables for weather blocking the visibility of the new moon, and also retarding the maturation of the barley.

The Aviv moon of 2012 was observed after sundown on March 23, at 9.87 degrees of elevation, and 1.1% of illumination.


37 posted on 12/29/2013 7:22:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; UriĀ’el-2012

It seems to me that it’s much simpler to look at this coming tetrad in the same context as the prior ones - like the establishment of the State of Israel, and Israel gaining full sovereignty over Jerusalem.

SO ... I would just look at it as something highly significant in a historical context will be happening to the Jews and Israel.

I would bet on a major Middle East War that involves significantly affects Israel and completely changes the “Palestinian issue” dynamic, totally in Israel’s favor. The “actual event” is just a guess by me, but the tetrad and it’s significance to the Jews and Israel in the past is not a guess, as that is documented.


38 posted on 12/29/2013 7:23:03 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

We are in agreement on those points.


39 posted on 12/29/2013 7:24:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jjotto

So maybe the warning is for the nation able to view the full solar eclipse? Is it over DC?


40 posted on 12/29/2013 7:30:19 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: editor-surveyor
You cannot “convert” from any man made calendar to Yehova’s calendar, as his calendar contains variables for weather blocking the visibility of the new moon, and also retarding the maturation of the barley.

The Aviv moon of 2012 was observed after sundown on March 23, at 9.87 degrees of elevation, and 1.1% of illumination.

The Rabbis have chosen the Metonic cycle

There is some question about the date of the first of Nisan in 2012.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
41 posted on 12/29/2013 7:31:20 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: huldah1776

Yehova’s warnings are for Israel, and are noted FOB the temple mount, Jerusalem!


42 posted on 12/29/2013 7:32:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

It doesn’t matter one whit what the Rabbis choose!

Yeshua rejected them totally.

Yehova’s days and years go according to his word.

I do not wish to denigrate the meticulous record keeping of the Rabbis, or their mathematical prowess, but they openly disregard Yehova’s word.


43 posted on 12/29/2013 7:35:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
I agree with you.

That is why there some question about the first of Nisan in 2012.

This has to do with the Abib in 2012.

This would also lead to the celebration of Hanukah a month early in 2013.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

44 posted on 12/29/2013 7:41:30 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

The date I posted was the actual date of the observation, verified by the barley test.


45 posted on 12/29/2013 7:47:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Seals 1-5 have been underway for centuries."

Correct

46 posted on 12/29/2013 7:54:44 PM PST by circlecity
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To: editor-surveyor
The date I posted was the actual date of the observation, verified by the barley test.

Yes but what was selected by the Rabbis via the Metonic cycle ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
47 posted on 12/29/2013 7:55:36 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

An Adar Bet is anticipated for 2014, but we still have to wait to observe the state of the barley to know for sure.

After looking at the regular calendar, I see that they did blow it on Hanukah this year, by two days. The real day was sundown 29/30 November by the Biblical method.


48 posted on 12/29/2013 7:57:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jjotto

There is a difference between astrology and astronomy! Christians do not use astrology, but astronomy is a completely different thing.


49 posted on 12/29/2013 8:09:15 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Star Traveler
Well ... something big is going to happen with these coming Blood Moons!

They will come and go as they always have. In the aftermath false prophets will come up with new prophecies to hopefully distract people and make them forget.

50 posted on 12/29/2013 8:11:09 PM PST by fso301
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