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Did the Catholic Church Remove One of the Ten Commandments?
Tim Staples' Blog ^ | February 11, 2014 | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/12/2014 7:34:09 AM PST by GonzoII

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"The inspired author of Deuteronomy now makes the distinction between wife and property sharper by using two different Hebrew words for “covet” and “desire” and by only using the word “covet” with regard to the wife. The two separate commandments now become undeniable. We’ll leave the discussion of the status of the servants for another blog post!"

1 posted on 02/12/2014 7:34:09 AM PST by GonzoII
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"We believe the Catholic Church alone has the authority to give to God’s people an authoritative list of the Ten Commandments. "

That's balderdash... actually it's more like heresy.

2 posted on 02/12/2014 7:46:07 AM PST by alancarp
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To: GonzoII

He’s definitely in violation of the Tenth Commandment with his wealth redistribution naivety, which, by extension, leads to breakdowns about bearing false witness (9) in conjunction with the admonition not to steal (8).

Yes sir, the Pope’s on a tear. Which will be next?


3 posted on 02/12/2014 7:46:55 AM PST by onedoug
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To: GonzoII

Simple answer — NO!


4 posted on 02/12/2014 7:47:02 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: GonzoII

Then there is the issue of the commandment to observe THE (not “a”) Sabbath. Extensive research by Samuele R. Bacchiocchi and published by Pope Gregorian University in his book From Sabbath to Sunday, shows that the Roman Church demonstrated its authority by moving the commanded Day of Rest from the seventh day of the week to the first. But he also shows this was done on cultural and political authority, but not on any Scriptural authority.

In a lecture he gave shortly before his death, Dr. Bacchiocchi noted that the vast majority of Christians today do not even observe the Commandment in that they have changed the concept of a Day of Rest into an hour of fellowship, and even then it is easy to give themselves a psss and not even observe that, at least when important personal or family business intrudes.

If we can ask what happened to the second Commandment, we should also ask what happened to the fourth one as well, and not only for Catholics but for everyone who attends a Sunday-keeping church.


5 posted on 02/12/2014 7:49:33 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: GonzoII

The other point, often missed when discussing “graven image”, is the fact this is about idol worship, not carving.

To make that point, it is important to notice this commandment is on the same page as the instructions for CARVING THE ARK OF THE COVANENT!!


6 posted on 02/12/2014 7:50:50 AM PST by G Larry
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To: GonzoII
This is an old and tired argument. The Catholic Church has been safeguarding the Decalogue for over 2,000 years; throw in a couple more millennium for the Jews watching over it. And this minister recently decides that the Catholic Church is throwing out Commandments like Luther reduced the number of Sacraments from 7 to 3 in 1517?

Sounds like an Alinsky tactic - accuse your opponent of what you yourself are already doing.

Which one of the heresies is it again?

7 posted on 02/12/2014 7:56:37 AM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: GonzoII

All these new converts to Catholicism have the same trait - they were formerly from another denomination/religion or two or three, before settling upon Catholicism after much trial, tribulation, and heartache. They believe they found a home, but their search for a spiritual home never included NONE OF THE ABOVE. They searched inside a box, all religions, and never entertained the fact that maybe all could be wrong, but that all might have some characteristics of the Holy Spirit. Scott Hahn was the same. In Catholicism, he found his artificial, human construct that most resembled something real. Catholicism was the perfect box, no other religious box could measure up to the Catholic box and so they join and sing its praises with all its endless rules, regs, dogma. sacraments, and gobbledeegook. It is wonderful for people who love boxes.


8 posted on 02/12/2014 8:03:07 AM PST by Boanarges
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Agreed. People in general like rules and lines.


9 posted on 02/12/2014 8:07:25 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Slyfox

3? I thought it’s only communion and Baptism. What’s the 3rd?


10 posted on 02/12/2014 8:08:54 AM PST by MNDude
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutheran_sacraments


11 posted on 02/12/2014 8:12:50 AM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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That’s funny, Christ said there were just 2 Commandments....
and said he had come not to overthrow the Law, but to fulfill it.


12 posted on 02/12/2014 8:14:43 AM PST by Nabber
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To: GonzoII

Anything that divides the believers of Jesus Christ is the work of Satan.


13 posted on 02/12/2014 8:16:46 AM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.r)
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To: alancarp

Amen.

For all the debate over the Catholic Church, and what our current Pope may or may not intend, the Church is NOT going to retreat on basic tenets of Faith that come from the Gospels.

It is NOT going to abandon it’s Pro Life stance.
It is NOT going to embrace “gay marriage”.
It is NOT going to ditch any or all of the Ten Commandments.


14 posted on 02/12/2014 8:25:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GonzoII
4. We believe the Catholic Church alone has the authority to give to God’s people an authoritative list of the Ten Commandments. And the Catechism of the Catholic Church does exactly that. At least, it gives us a list as a sure norm for us.

Whoever wrote that might want to look into Scripture and God's plain and terrible warning to those who would change or alter HIS Word. His authority in His Word is His alone. This is God 101.

15 posted on 02/12/2014 8:26:17 AM PST by SkyPilot
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The two commandments to love God with all your heart and to love your neighbor as yourself. Yes.

But, he also instructed the Apostles in Sacramental duties, because his Church needed to be in the position of dispensing his graces and blessings.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13295a.htm


16 posted on 02/12/2014 8:31:16 AM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: theBuckwheat
"If we can ask what happened to the second Commandment, we should also ask what happened to the fourth one as well, and not only for Catholics but for everyone who attends a Sunday-keeping church. "

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If I may ask, are you a Seventh-day Adventist?

For another book that discusses that question Bacchiocchi raised (as well as the question concerning the commandment against worshiping statues, and many other related questions), I urge you to read "Where is That in the Bible?" by Patrick Madrid

17 posted on 02/12/2014 8:32:15 AM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: GonzoII
I say it “appears” to do so because Genesis 1:26-27 does reveal God himself to have said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness… So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”

Just occurred to me image there were women in Heaven too!

18 posted on 02/12/2014 8:35:47 AM PST by restornu (My eyes of underestanding when reading the Bible has open because of reading the Book of Mormon....)
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To: GonzoII
The Wikipedia article on the Ten Commandments has a chart showing how the different religious groups number the commandments, and has the text of the two versions (Exodus and Deuteronomy) conveniently alongside.

According to that article, the Catholic Church's numbering goes back to St. Augustine. The Lutheran count agrees with the Catholic count.

19 posted on 02/12/2014 8:40:38 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: alancarp
Please educate yourself with the truth.

Lists Every Catholic Should be Familiar With: The 10 Commandments
The Catholic Church Changed The Ten Commandments? [Ecumenical]

The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Christian Morality
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, The Ten Commandments
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, First Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Second Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Third Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Fourth Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Fifth Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Sixth and Ninth Commandments
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Seventh and Tenth Commandments
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith; Part Three: The Will of God, Eighth Commandment

Catechism of Aquinas |SUMMARY OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS| THE OUR FATHER & FIVE QUALITIES OF PRAYER
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 34: The First Commandment
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 35: The Second Commandment
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 36: The Third Commandment
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 37: The Fourth Commandment
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 38: The Fifth Commandment (w / special prayer request)
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 39: The Sixth and Ninth Commandments
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 40: The Seventh and Tenth Commandments
A Brief Catechism for Adulst - Lesson 41: The Eighth Commandment

20 posted on 02/12/2014 9:18:42 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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