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THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries
christiantruth.com ^ | William Webster

Posted on 09/27/2014 11:05:41 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: ronnietherocket3
And I have to date seen no one disprove that Rev. 12 refers to Mary.

The scriptures in chapter 12 prove it is not Mary...

661 posted on 09/28/2014 7:42:23 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ronnietherocket3

Ok; now WHERE in Rev 12 are the verse(S) that prove the woman is Mary?


662 posted on 09/28/2014 7:43:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; ronnietherocket3

Do not ping someone after they have been instructed to leave the thread. They cannot answer you.


664 posted on 09/28/2014 7:46:07 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: ronnietherocket3
(Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)

NOW understanding has come to me!

666 posted on 09/28/2014 7:47:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Do not ping someone after he has been instructed to leave the thread. He cannot answer you.


667 posted on 09/28/2014 7:47:48 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Things are moving MIGHTY fast here!


668 posted on 09/28/2014 7:48:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; Tennessee Nana

And I have gotten the NUMBER!

(Cue Evil Laugh...)

669 posted on 09/28/2014 7:49:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Heart-Rest

...” that is not a Catholic web site, nor is it affiliated with any Catholic organization”....

Nobody said it was....but the images ‘are’ catholic images.

As for what I study? well now that’s a pretty personal question...but I’ll bite.

It’s not catholicism apart from investigative/research along with other false religions and cults which entrap people from what God otherwise wants them to know. It goes with my work.....and you?... Are you limited to only study what catholicism allows you to study?


670 posted on 09/28/2014 7:49:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: Elsie
Ok; now WHERE in Rev 12 are the verse(S) that prove the woman is Mary?

The description that the woman will bear a son destined to rule all nations. I can think of two women who can claim this Israel and Mary. However, Rev 12 describes the devil as trying to sweep her away with the flood. The flood did not touch the woman. The flood could kill the woman by drowning her in sin (sin is the mechanism by which the devil cuts us off from God). However the flood (sin) does not touch the woman. It likely is not Israel as well read Hosea. However, thank you for the Immaculate Conception.
671 posted on 09/28/2014 7:50:15 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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My apologies, I had not read you order yet.


673 posted on 09/28/2014 7:51:17 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: daniel1212; Elsie; narses

674 posted on 09/28/2014 7:51:28 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: ronnietherocket3
>>Can you list some? I do not know these prayers.<<

Source: http://catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?s=31

O most pure heart of Mary, full of goodness, show your love towards us. Let the flame of your heart, O Mary, descend on all people. We love you im- mensely. Impress on our hearts true love so that we may long for you. O Mary, gentle and humble of heart, remember us when we sin. You know that all people sin. Grant that through your most pure and motherly heart, we may be healed from every spiritual sickness. Grant that we may always experience the goodness of your motherly heart, and that through the flame of your heart we may be converted. Amen.

No asking for her to pray there. Only asking her to do something. "descend on all people"? That's omnipresence. Ascribing deity to Mary.

Dear Mary, my holy mother, I love you so much and I give you my heart. Help me to love God. Help me to love my neighbor as a child of God. Help me to love myself as a child of God. Amen

No asking for prayer again. She is to help them log God but the heart is given to Mary.

My Queen! my Mother! I give thee all myself, and, to show my devotion to thee, I consecrate to thee my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my entire self. Wherefore, O loving Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, defend me, as thy property and possession. Amen.

Wow! Not just not asking her to pray for them but giving themselves totally to Mary. Not God.

Catholics just expect us to take their word that they don't pray to Mary? Not a chance. Don't tell us the Catholic Church says only to ask for Mary and their so called saints to pray for you. The evidence says that's false. Catholics not only pray to them but they ask them to do things reserved for God and also give them attributes of deity. Thus worship.

675 posted on 09/28/2014 7:52:24 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Elsie

To late!!


676 posted on 09/28/2014 7:54:15 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Religion Moderator

Sorry about that. I am aware of the rule.

I was unaware of that instruction as I had not read that far into the thread yet.


677 posted on 09/28/2014 7:55:10 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: boatbums
....”I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it”.....

Wonderful post Boatbums......His Word reaches right into our hearts and minds as nothing else!.. What assurances...what a God that we serve!.... Alleluia!

678 posted on 09/28/2014 7:55:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: Elsie

Many in grave sin will go to Mary first, as Jesus is too frightening for them to approach.


679 posted on 09/28/2014 7:55:58 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: ronnietherocket3
What wild place did Mary FLEE to?

Egypt

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

3 years 5 1/2 months...


After a time Joseph and the others return from Egypt, the text stating that their enemies having died. Herod is believed to have died in 4 BC, and while Matthew doesn't mention how, the Jewish historian Josephus vividly relates a gory death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_into_Egypt


Matthew 2:12-15

12 And having been warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, they returned to their country by another route.

13 When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. “Get up,” he said, “take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him.”

14 So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt, 15 where he stayed until the death of Herod.

680 posted on 09/28/2014 8:00:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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