Posted on 09/14/2015 3:18:13 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
JOHN MacARTHUR NEEDS TO TALK WITH ROSALIND MOSS.
Before she became a Catholic, staff apologist Rosalind Moss used to be a member of John MacArthur's congregation, Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California. He runs a ministry called Grace to You. Its motto is "Unleashing God's Truth One Verse at a Time." The unleashing is done chiefly through a widely-syndicated radio program.
In a June letter to his ministry's supporters, MacArthur wrote about John Paul II and the "amazing release of emotion" that accompanied his death. "From politicians and media pundits to Hollywood celebrities and everyday citizens, everyone had praise for John Paul II, his gentle ways and his social and political achievements as a world leader and statesman. I can understand that.
"What I cannot understand," continued MacArthur, "is the response of some Evangelicals to what matters most about the pope: his beliefs about God and the gospel. … Influential leaders embraced the deceased pope as a brother in Christ and the Catholic church as just another Christian denomination. …
"During the Reformation, countless men and women died rather than deny the biblical truths of salvation. Countless others today are giving their lives as missionaries to people lost in the darkness and guilt of Catholicism."
MacArthur goes on to write about the "damning error" that is Catholicism and notes that he has released a new 90-minute lecture called "Unmasking the Pope and the Catholic System." He says that "the church I pastor is loaded with people who were saved out of the Catholic church. … A longtime Grace to You board member and dear friend of mine is a former Catholic. He speaks with great emotion about the bondage he and his wife lived under."
How many times have we heard these claims before? "The Catholic Church is not really Christian." "Catholics believe you 'earn' your salvation through good works." "Catholicism is based on guilt, not truth." "People are in 'bondage' to Catholicism–and we need to save them."
Each Sunday 7,000 people attend MacArthur's church. This is what he tells them about an institution that was around for nineteen centuries before he was born and that is now headed by a man who shows not a hint of MacArthur's arrogance. It is MacArthur who claims a divine commission: "I do have a mandate from God to compare what others teach to the gospel of the Bible." He says, "'Does the pope teach the gospel?' is a valid question."
Rosalind Moss left John MacArthur's church because she realized that, yes, the pope really does teach the gospel–and that John MacArthur does not.
The Grace to You ministry's letterhead has this slogan at the bottom: "The Bible Teaching of John MacArthur." Benedict XVI is more modest in his claims. His letterhead does not have at the bottom "The Bible Teaching of Benedict XVI" because the Pope is not trying to push his own agenda.
Instead, he is the custodian of what has been passed down through the centuries. His job is not to refashion the Bible in his own image but to convey to us what each of his predecessors conveyed to the people of their time.
Grace to You is built around one man. It may have many employees, but when John MacArthur dies, his ministry will die. His flock will scatter, taking with them the silly prejudices he has imbued them with.
When Benedict XVI dies there will be another pope to succeed him, and another, and another, until the end of time. Each of them will demonstrate to those with open minds and hearts that, yes, the pope does teach the gospel.
“Mike Gendron’s ministry exposes Roman Catholicism as a false religion”
2,000 years of Catholic theology from the most brilliant Christian minds that ever lived say different.
C.S. Lewis was first a member of the Church of Ireland (Angelican), then became an atheist,then a theist then the Church of England (Angelican). He was never a Lutheran.
Mike Gendron is a notorious fallen away Catholic, a world-class hater and Catholic bigot.
You have no credibility whatsoever.
“2,000 years of Catholic theology from the most brilliant Christian minds that ever lived say different.”
Truth Squad Fix
“2,000 years of Sycretic Paganisn from a few brilliant Christian minds with plenty of the most heretical minds that ever lived plus many evil leaders, lost the central point of Christianity - The Gospel of Grace. “
Praise be to God that he didn’t leave us ignorant and stuck on the hamster wheel of guilt and dead works from a false sacramental, works-based religion.
At the right time, he opened the eyes of the right man to recover what Rome perverted. Dear Luther was the right tool in the hand of God for this crucial task. Hundreds of millions are in heaven because of God’s intervention in history. True are His Words, “I will never leave you, no I will never forsake you.”
And to those stuck in a worldly religion of false works He calls, “come to Me, all you who are weary and heavy laden. I will give you rest.”
“One of the most brilliant Christian theologians who has ever lived is Joseph Ratzinger, also known as Pope Benedict the 16th.”
Simply an assertion. Everyone you refer to in your posts is the best! You might as well write platitudes like, “Tastes Great! Less Filling!”
“Never a more humble man of God ever lived.”
Assertion without fact.
“Never a more brilliant mind ever studied the history of Christianity and the life of Jesus Christ.”
Assertion again... I see a trend.
“If Joseph Ratzinger, in all his studies of Jesus Christ, never came to the conclusion that the Catholic Church was not the One, True, Apostolic Church, founded by Christ himself, then I don’t think I ever will.”
A child can understand salvation. He was also a product of the system. Do goldfish know they are in a bowl? Do they know lakes exist? Do they know the castle is fake?
“There is no doubt in my mind that Joseph Ratzinger wouldn’t be a Catholic today if he thought Catholicism was not the One, True, Apostolic Faith.”
And perhaps here is a demonstration of real power - mind-reading! You don’t know what he thought or what his struggles were. Or what he decided.
“That Johnny come-lately protestants question the greatest theologians of Christianity, men who have devoted their entire lives to spreading the truth of Christianity and God’s plan of salvation is pathetic to the extreme.”
Again, your opinion. Simply more platitudes. Men are wrong. Even you know many popes were evil, were pagans, etc.
“For what they are doing is calling Joseph Ratzinger and all other world-renowned Catholic theologians for the last 2,000 years liars.”
You will have to point me to that. I never called him a liar - just wrong about so very much that matters.
“And that is laughable. Your personal opinions mean absolutely nothing to me or Joseph Ratzinger.”
For them not meaning anything, you devote a lot of time to spreading assertions and platitudes... hmmmmmm.
But will you spend eternity in the presence of Christ? Do you know for sure? Tonight, if it happens?? You’ve avoided answering.
Your opinion is no better than anyone else’s opinion. And opinions are like something else we all have. B16 is a world renowned theologian. Fulton Sheen wrote the other classic. I side with B16 and Bishop Sheen, not a FR blogger. You want to study the life of Christ I suggest you start with these two books.
http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Nazareth-Baptism-Jordan-Transfiguration/dp/1586171984
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Christ-Fulton-J-Sheen/dp/0385132204
“Your opinion is no better than anyone else’s opinion.”
Sorry NK, but all opinions are not equal. Some are informed by understanding God’s Word and some, like you expressed, are just empty assertions.
Will you spend eternity in the presence of God, from the moment of your death? Is that hard for you to answer honestly, or do you not know??
“Sorry NK, but all opinions are not equal. Some are informed by understanding God’s Word and some, like you expressed, are just empty assertions”.
Finally we agree on something. The opinions of Joseph Ratzinger and Fulton Sheen on Christianity and Jesus Christ carry more weight than every blogger on FR or anywhere else on the internet.
As far as your question on where I will spend eternity? I don’t know where I’ll spend eternity anymore than you do. That’s why I live my life for Christ every day of my life. I hope I make the cut. I also didn’t abandon him in the Holy Eucharist like every fallen away Catholic that has ever lived. Have good day.
NK, I hope you believe the words of the Apostle John, who at the end of his life, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote this...
"And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life."
"These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life."
I John 5:11-13
The Apostle John was inspired by God to tell those who have the Son of God that they can KNOW they HAVE eternal life. Not wish for. Not make a cut. Know. Now.
John says it is possible to know you have eternal life. Since he spoke under inspiration of God, these are God's Words to us. To you NK."
Would you like to have the assurance and comfort of knowing now, that you have and will have eternal life? That when you die, today or another day, you will spend eternity in the presence of God?
I'm not talking about leaving a church or going to a different church. I'm talking about knowing you have eternal life, as John wrote.
So sad.
Protestant tradition, but not scriptural, demonstrating that Luther is fundamental and foundation to your religion which started in the 16th Century. Luther published a seven point plan against the Jews which was the foundation of the Holocaust. Such an evil man could not be the foundation of the one holy catholic apostolic church. He is a false apostle, a wolf in sheep's clothing.
As I have repeatedly and plainly enough shown that you are...
Yet still, you persist.
This thread is not helpful to FR's mission & purposes.
So why don't you put a sock in it, and stop all the regular 'bashing' of other-than Roman Catholic Christians?
“So sad.
I agree. It is very sad that anyone would be in a religion that contradicts what God said through the Apostle John.
That Father Luther was flawed is evident. Yet God used him.
Every single Pope was also flawed - many outright evil.
Peter was flawed.
All the Apostles were flawed.
God has always used flawed humans.
That he used Father Luther to recover what Rome’s flawed men lost is not surprising.
No one knows who will make it to heaven and no one knows who’s in heaven. Have a great day.
Hmmmmm... Let’s see...
Do I believe God’s Word theough Christ’s hand picked and inspired Apostle...
OR
NKP_vet?????
Woopsie.
That would mean there are no "saints", and that one couldn't even be sure of Mary, the Mother of Christ being there.
Purgatory. Who can be sure that anyone is "there" under the formula you just espoused --- not knowing who is in Heaven, or who is not...
Paul wrote, in the 2nd Epistle to the Corinthians (chapter 5)
5 For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven, 3 if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. 4 For we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed, but further clothed, that mortality may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. 7 For we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.
Attributed to being said of the Son of God, Jesus Christ himself (John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Have a great eternity.
He earned it.
(and that is the blood we drink, and the flesh we eat, His sacrifice, made willingly on his own part, to restore us to Himself)
Please quote your Nazi source substantiating your claim, then reconcile the Catholic church's actions vs Luther's words.
Such an evil man could not be the foundation of the one holy catholic apostolic church.
But a church that actually carried out all the acts of the Nazis; expulsion, property seizure, book burning, murder, requirement for a distinctive badge worn on clothing (borrowed from the Muslims BTW) IS the foundation of the one holy catholic apostolic church. LOL. MLDS from a historical revisionist
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