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CDF priest comes out of the closet and makes demands. He’s fired (10 pt manifesto)
WDTPRS ^ | October 3, 2015 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 10/03/2015 11:34:10 AM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

Well, that worked out well...!!!


21 posted on 10/03/2015 12:50:50 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Gluteus Maximus; NYer
How would you know that? In my whole lifetime I've known of just 2 priests who were homosexuals, and I'd had no way of knowing except they both got themselves in the newspapers about it.

I'm not saying there weren't more who were either chaste or closeted, but in either of those cases, you'd have to keep them under surveillance to know who they were.

BTW, I was just reading about an elite prep school in New York, the Horace Mann School, which had 20+ active homosexual teachers hitting on adolescent and teen boys for a couple of decades before the SHTF. To bad Horace Mann faculty weren't allowed to get married!! Uh... waitaminnit...

22 posted on 10/03/2015 12:53:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: annalex; Gluteus Maximus; Mrs. Don-o
It tells you that priests who entered seminaries after the 2nd Vatican council (1962-65) but before the avalanche of "the cruel documents that are incompetent to deal with the issue of homosexual persons" starting with Persona Humana (1975) and intensifying in 1990's (the list is in the article), -- were often gay.

No it doesn't. If anything, the majority of clerical sex abuse cases have been been pre-VCII priests. The John Jay report states that abuse cases peaked in 1970, too soon after Vatican II for a large percentage of priests to have been ordained under its reforms. The majority of accused priests were ordained between 1950-1979 (68%) while those ordained before 1950 accounted for 21% of the accused. 62% of the accused priests were born before 1940, so were raised in the pre-Vatican II church and likely ordained or under vows prior to 1965.

23 posted on 10/03/2015 1:31:36 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: Blacksheep
Over the centuries, there were, I would reckon, a lot more sodomites who found marriage the perfect cover. Oscar Wilde, Virginia Woolf, Richard Cromwell, Cole Porter, Alfred Kinsey, Jerry Sandusky, Gene Robinson, etc. etc.
24 posted on 10/03/2015 1:33:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Are you unfamiliar with the emissaries sent from Rome to inspect all the seminaries?

Benedict XVI did this — cleaning out the seminaries. And most of the priests of whom you speak are close to retirement.

You are still a Catholic. Why didn’t you move to a parish where the priests were orthodox. One or two or three bad priests does not mean that the entire Church is bad.

If you want all the links I have about this process I will bee glad to send them to you.

Anyway, you can come back to the church just by sitting down with a priest and getting your questions answered.

Peace to you.


25 posted on 10/03/2015 1:33:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: AU72

cassock


26 posted on 10/03/2015 1:34:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

The Holy See has reacted by firing this priest from his position at the CDF and his teaching jobs.

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Good! Defrocking will happen soon, I hope.


27 posted on 10/03/2015 1:46:39 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

An excellent book you might want to read is “Goodbye Good Men” by Michael Rose. It is about the infiltration of the Catholic seminaries by gays. This book explains how gays would enter the church and then secretly bring their gay friends along after them. Some seminaries became thoroughly infested with them. There behavior became very obvious.

I am not sure when this began. I wonder if this may have been the work of Harry Hay the gay/pedophile who started the Mattichine Society back in the 1950’s. He was also a communist in the 1940’s and worked in Hollywood. You can look him up on Wikipedia.


29 posted on 10/03/2015 1:59:11 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: annalex

When I was growing up priests were called by their title and their last name —Father Smith, Father McCarthy etc. Then it changed to a first name basis—Father Bob, Father Bill. I like the old way as it was more respectful of the office of the priest. He was more of a father rather than a buddy.


30 posted on 10/03/2015 2:05:53 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I think gays are like mice when you find one you find a whole bunch.


31 posted on 10/03/2015 2:12:12 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: Salvation
According to this guy I'll quote..." Homosexuals make up the 'majority' of priests"....which he wants to be the go to guy for....... So it would seem those inside the church halls don't agree with the so called "clean-up" effort of the guys up the food chain....

(Sing songie)...."Nothing you could do could tear me away from my guy....nothing you could do cause I'm stuck like glue to my guy.....like birds of a feather we stick together..I'm telling you from the start there's nothing going to tear me apart from my guy...."


32 posted on 10/03/2015 2:14:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: cradle of freedom

I think that’s probably true.


33 posted on 10/03/2015 2:17:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

....” The RCC is clearly incapable of internal reform”....

That would mean they would loose pretty much all their priests, which without the Priesthood the church entire would crumble....so ‘instead’.... the first act of the Pope is to say they can be homosexual, that’s ok, but they have to refrain from sexual behavior..... But they wouldn’t be homosexuals if they could control their sexual appetite to begin with. It’s not about “love”...it’s all about unrestrained sexual appetite masquerading as “love” to be socially acceptable to the public.


34 posted on 10/03/2015 2:21:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: AU72
You meant cassock...not cossack. This is a cossack.
35 posted on 10/03/2015 2:26:47 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: cradle of freedom

I have a friend who’s brother went to seminary and left because homosexuals were so “thick” there... and hooking up in between classes where ever they could find a shadow to hide in to carry out their business to relieve themselves. That if you weren’t homosexual coming into the place they would see to it you were before leaving.....needless to say his options were limited...he ran!


36 posted on 10/03/2015 2:27:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: NYer
I wouldn't say all priests are homosexuals. There was one at my old childhood parish who was convicted of sexually assaulting boys (at another parish) and sentenced to prison. But there was my religion teacher in high school who left the priesthood and ran off to marry a woman.

I would guess that while there is a larger than average pct. of homosexuals in the priesthood than the general population, probably only a small pct. of priests are homosexuals. Ten percent or less. Ten percent is ten percent too much, but it's not like they're all homos.

37 posted on 10/03/2015 2:35:09 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: NYer

He was fired. That was handled right.


38 posted on 10/03/2015 2:42:48 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: caww

That was a great song, don’t ruin it. :^)


39 posted on 10/03/2015 3:12:50 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: driftless2
I would guess that while there is a larger than average pct. of homosexuals in the priesthood than the general population, probably only a small pct. of priests are homosexuals.

You have bought into the media, my friend.

There Is More Sexual Abuse In The Protestant Churches Than Catholic

Of course, it is much easier to attack the Catholic Church which is the only one with a central figure. Recall the words of Archbishop Sheen.


40 posted on 10/03/2015 3:31:58 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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