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Our Lady of Fatima – Her Prophecies and Warnings Remain as Essential as Ever!
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-12-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/13/2015 8:08:21 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation
It cannot be a Catholic Caucus because another religion is mentioned.

It probably could've been created as an "ecumenical" thread:

Religion Forum threads labeled “Ecumenical”

Ecumenical threads are closed to antagonism.

To antagonize is to incur or to provoke hostility in others.

Unlike the “caucus” threads, the article and reply posts of an “ecumenical” thread may discuss more than one belief, but antagonism is not tolerable.

More leeway is granted to what is acceptable in the text of the article than to the reply posts. For example, the term “gross error” in an article will not prevent an ecumenical discussion, but a poster should not use that term in his reply because it is antagonistic. As another example, the article might be a passage from the Bible which would be antagonistic to Jews. The passage should be considered historical information and a legitimate subject for an ecumenical discussion. The reply posts however must not be antagonistic.

Contrasting of beliefs or even criticisms can be made without provoking hostilities. But when in doubt, only post what you are “for” and not what you are “against.” Or ask questions.

Ecumenical threads will be moderated on a “where there’s smoke, there’s fire” basis. When hostility has broken out on an “ecumenical” thread, I’ll be looking for the source.

Therefore “anti” posters must not try to finesse the guidelines by asking loaded questions, using inflammatory taglines, gratuitous quote mining or trying to slip in an “anti” or “ex” article under the color of the “ecumenical” tag.

The original article doesn't seem (to me) to contain antagonism at the level of what I expect of an "anti-" or "ex-" article.

(Especially as someone who doesn't now neatly fit into any of the most common Caucus labels, I also appreciate that such threads are open to posters who don't fit within a particular label.)

21 posted on 10/13/2015 11:22:44 AM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: NorthMountain

There is nothing in either m Popes notes nor in b sheens which disputes that


22 posted on 10/13/2015 11:41:23 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
There is nothing in either m Popes notes nor in b sheens which disputes that

Brother Sheen's comments are rather more optimistic about mohammedanism than I am ... my comment had more to do with "caucus" labeling, though. The only "religion" I saw mentioned was Roman Catholic. I'm glad it wasn't "caucused" ... that left me free to comment.

23 posted on 10/13/2015 12:06:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Ann Archy
We Catholics have a strong continence, and can refute anything you might say....especially if it’s anti-Mary!!

Is this before or after certain members of your caucus run to the mod crying??

24 posted on 10/13/2015 12:25:08 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NorthMountain

Oh. I am just commenting for the record.


25 posted on 10/13/2015 12:30:39 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Salvation
Was the "Miracle of the Sun" a lying wonder? Based on biblical teaching, it would certainly seem so. Satan has no problem mixing enough truth to make a teaching seem right with just enough error to damn souls to hell. Where is the gospel of salvation by grace through faith in Christ—the message repeated throughout the whole of the New Testament—ever mentioned in the whole message of Fatima? Where is it ever mentioned that salvation is only through faith in Christ's finished work on Calvary and that our works have no merit apart from Him (Ephesians 2:8-9)? Penance and making offerings for reparation of our sins are antithetical to Christ's finished work on Calvary and of our need for salvation by grace alone through faith in Him alone. Calling upon Mary and her “Immaculate Heart” and viewing the Rosary as the ultimate means of saving souls fly in the face of such biblical truths as Acts 4:12 and 1 Timothy 2:5. "To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20).

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26 posted on 10/13/2015 12:31:30 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Lonely Bull; Salvation; Old Yeller; rwa265
It probably could've been created as an "ecumenical" thread:

Much ado about nothing. This is an historical event that does not need to be qualified as a caucus. It is what it is .. factual, including the miracle of the sun.

27 posted on 10/13/2015 2:15:53 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: ealgeone
you tell'em eagleone....afterall, using the word and only the word of God:  photo godword_zps4quimivj.jpg
28 posted on 10/13/2015 2:24:54 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan
When you post such a disproven claim you belay your attempt at credibility.

If you show a clear verse that supports what the appiration claims let's see it or you've got nothing.

29 posted on 10/13/2015 3:03:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NYer
Factual?? It may have happened.

But what the appiration said it is not supported anywhere in the Word.

The Word tells us the false prophets will come from within. Fatima is one of those false prophets.

30 posted on 10/13/2015 3:05:28 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NorthMountain
Mohammedanism isn’t a religion. It’s a violent, murderous, totalitarian political ideology of satanic origin.

True dat.

But it is also called Islam and a Muslim religion.

And in that form, the Pope said that Catholics worship the same god that Islam (Muslims, Mohannedanism) worships.

Attribution available but most people are aware of this pronouncement.

31 posted on 10/13/2015 3:09:09 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus is The Word, the Sword of The Spirit is the Word of God--Eph 6:17)
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To: Syncro
The mohammedans claim to worship the one singular God creator of all that is. Jews also make that claim.

The mohammedans description of that one singular God is so drastically wrong as to be completely unrecognizable ... and it was inspired by demons.

Incidentally, Jews also worship the one, singular God creator of all that is incorrectly. They deny that God has a Son; they deny that Jesus was and is God. Yet few Christians would argue that Jews do not worship the same God as Christians.

Attribution available

No need. I know exactly where that claim comes from; I also read it in context. Most people have not done that.

I reiterate: Mohammedanism isn’t a religion. It’s a violent, murderous, totalitarian political ideology of satanic origin. It masquerades as a religion; some people even fall for that pretense.

32 posted on 10/13/2015 3:19:48 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: ealgeone

if you will post a clear verse showing to use only the bible only, lets see your clear verse that supports the bible alone, or youve got nothing.

(interesting, since there was no ‘bible’ till the catholic church under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, put the OT and NT together,at the council of nicea....

and please, dont play that game with me....the pic is perfectly legit, since all those denominations, claim as you do, that they use just the word of God....i.e. bible alone.....


33 posted on 10/13/2015 3:20:48 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: ealgeone

It’s not worth arguing over because the truth is they don’t really care what the Word says. If they did they would see the cross as sufficient and they wouldn’t be papists in the first place. They don’t judge their traditions by the Word, they judge the Word by their traditions. They don’t look to the Word for understanding events such as Fatima, they look to “church teaching.”


34 posted on 10/13/2015 3:23:16 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: NYer
This is an historical event that does not need to be qualified as a caucus. It is what it is .. factual, including the miracle of the sun.
Serious question: Did any of the local newspapers ever report on it? Did it ever get picked up by UPI or AP?
35 posted on 10/13/2015 3:23:24 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: raygunfan
The Fatima Fanaticism
36 posted on 10/13/2015 3:41:21 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama's Iran nuclear deal - The Devil is in the details.)
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To: eastsider
IT SOUNDS LIKE SCIENCE FICTION, or lore from the pen of Edgar Allan Poe. And the event may well have been written off as an illusion, but for the extensive news coverage it received at the time.

READ MORE

Good to see you in the forum! My current (soon to be former) pastor, is a strong advocate of social media. Hope and pray you are doing well!

37 posted on 10/13/2015 3:48:09 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: Old Yeller

yes, nothing like a link to uninformed former catholics.....like asking hitler for his view on jewish contributions to the world.....

if this is all you got....we catholics aint got nothing to worry about.


38 posted on 10/13/2015 3:48:44 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: ealgeone
The Word tells us the false prophets will come from within. Fatima is one of those false prophets.

If I understand you correctly, you are calling the mother of God a false prophet? You believe that the woman who bore Jesus Christ is a deceiver? Luke 1:48

39 posted on 10/13/2015 3:54:50 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer
Thanks, NYer! I knew you'd know!

I am doing quite well, thanks. Please know that you are in my daily prayers.

40 posted on 10/13/2015 3:56:05 PM PDT by eastsider
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