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Evangelization, Vatican II, and Censorship
Crisis ^ | August 15, 2017 | Eric Sammons

Posted on 08/15/2017 10:30:05 AM PDT by ebb tide

Evangelization can be frustrating. After 25 years evangelizing in my personal life and in official roles with the Church, including as a diocesan Director of Evangelization, I know this well. Few Catholics, of course, would be surprised that evangelization can be arduous. They may be surprised, however, at the way censorship in the Church poses a threat to evangelization. The little-known truth is that certain viewpoints, even though compatible with Catholic theology, are censored both by the institutional Church as well as many orthodox Catholic organizations—viewpoints that directly impact the success of evangelization efforts.

When the word “censorship” comes up, many people think of tyrannical authorities brutally enforcing censorship rules. Books are burned, people are arrested, and the masses cower in fear of retaliation if the wrong words are said or printed. Totalitarian governments and censorship go together like Fr. James Martin and the rainbow flag. But another form of censorship is more prevalent today, what I would call “soft censorship.” This type of censorship is enforced by keeping certain information and views from being published in official news outlets, mocking and vilifying anyone who holds to “wrong” views, and ignoring reality when it doesn’t conform to the official narrative. Soft censorship is rampant in the mainstream media and university campuses today, but those aren’t the only places it flourishes. Soft censorship is also at work within the Catholic Church.

Evangelization, however, cannot thrive in a censored environment. Evangelization means bringing people to the truth, and freedom is necessary for truth to flourish (and we know that conversely the truth will make people free). Topics that impact evangelization must be debated in a free and open way. And no event has had more impact on Catholic evangelization, and the modern Church in general, than the Second Vatican Council. Yet it is the topic of this very Council that is the most heavily censored within the Church.

Seeking the Truth Wherever It Leads
If an entirely objective social scientist were to study the Catholic Church in the second half of the twentieth century, he would see one fact staring him straight in the face: the Church experienced a precipitous decline in the Western world during that time. The data clearly indicate a church that was booming and adding new members and new vocations at a healthy rate in the 1950’s became a church that was losing members and vocations faster than it could count them by 1980 (and that decline has continued essentially unabated since then). This decline began in earnest shortly after the end of Vatican II. Any good scientist knows that correlation does not equal causation, yet sometimes correlation is due to causation. Thus, if one wants to know the causes of the failure of Catholic evangelization in the second half of the twentieth century (and continuing into the twenty-first century), he needs to consider all possible factors. For example, the reasons for this decline might include many outside factors, such as:

But an objective observer would not look only at outside factors; he would also consider internal factors, including:

One thing an objective social scientist would not do is exclude certain possibilities a priori. The possibility that Vatican II and its teachings are a major cause of the Church’s evangelization failure—something unthinkable within the institutional Church—would be considered among all possible causes.

Acceptable Interpretations
Today there are only two acceptable interpretations of Vatican II and its impact within the Church: the Official Line and the Orthodox Concern (I’m not including the liberal interpretation that Vatican II was Step One toward “getting with the times” and essentially morphing the Catholic Church into the Episcopal church).

The Official Line comes from bishops and Church outlets like diocesan newspapers, parish bulletins, and even Vatican documents. The Official Line posits that Vatican II was largely uncontroversial, and in fact embraced by Catholics worldwide. It also suggests that the Council ushered in a new springtime that led to booming parishes and on-fire Catholics. If you listen to the typical bishop today, you’d think the Catholic Church is only days away from fulfilling the Great Commission, thanks to Vatican II. If someone thinks the liberal interpretation is fantasy, it is no more so than the Official Line.

The Orthodox Concern acknowledges the existence of problems in the Church that began in the 1960’s. But Vatican II is not to blame; no, the Council was simply coincidental to those problems, or perhaps even prevented them from being worse. Any post-Vatican II problems in the Church are due to the decline of the culture or a poor implementation of Vatican II. But nothing, absolutely nothing, can be laid at the feet of Vatican II itself. It was just minding its own business when crisis hit the Church. This, in fact, is the interpretation I clung to for many years.

What will not be found in either of these interpretations is the view that perhaps Vatican II itself has fundamental problems; problems of ambiguity and perhaps even erroneous teachings. Anyone suggesting these ideas, even mildly, is immediately consigned to the arena of kooks and tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists, or worse, Latin-loving Traditionalists! This perspective is not voiced in official Church outlets or even most orthodox-leaning publications. Anyone who questions both the Official Line and the Orthodox Concern is treated like a pro-lifer at a university’s diversity day: beyond the bounds of “dialogue.”

Suppressing the Truth
Let’s consider why both the established viewpoints refuse to entertain questions about Vatican II itself. I think there are two primary reasons, plus an additional one for those who subscribe to the Orthodox Concern viewpoint.

First, bad theology: many believe that since Ecumenical Councils are guided by the Holy Spirit, nothing erroneous or even harmful can come from them. Yet this is a distortion of true Catholic teaching. The Holy Spirit protects the Church from error, but he does so only under certain conditions: no official teaching of the Church, whether it comes from a pope or an ecumenical council, can contain error if (1) it’s in the area of faith and morals; and (2) it’s to be binding on all the faithful. But popes and councils can be ambiguous and unclear. Both popes and councils can even be erroneous when teaching in matters outside faith and morals or when not presenting a teaching as binding. The protection of the Holy Spirit only covers official, binding teaching, not every word produced by popes and councils. So it is not contrary to Catholic theology to suggest that an Ecumenical Council is ambiguous or erroneous.

Institutional bias is another reason questions regarding Vatican II itself are censored. The Church and its supporting institutions have heavily invested themselves on the idea that Vatican II was beneficial to the Church. We are a “Vatican II Church.” To question that is to put a deep-seeded worldview in peril. How things have “always been done” is a powerful force in any institution, and to rethink Vatican II would require a complete reevaluation of most of the Church’s current practices and ideas. Too much is invested by both those in official Church circles and the orthodox Catholic market to do that. So any conflicting views are silenced and ignored.

Another reason exists for those of the orthodox persuasion to avoid the topic of Vatican II itself: financial support. If an orthodox organization questioned Vatican II, its speaking engagements and invitations from parishes and dioceses would disappear. Most such organizations exist to reach out to the mass of pew-sitting Catholics, but those opportunities would dry up faster than a Baptist during Prohibition. Better to keep quiet any concerns or even publicly embrace either the Official Line or at most the Orthodox Concern.

Being Set Free
Censorship in the Church is not restrictive to Vatican II; it also touches on other aspects of the Church’s life. Aside from Vatican II, perhaps no subject is more censored within the Church than debate about the teachings and practices of our current Holy Father. This should not be surprising, since in many ways Pope Francis is the incarnation of Vatican II, and the lines of debate are similarly drawn. But a healthy institution allows—and even encourages—internal debate and discussion, and Pope Francis himself has noted that he believes debate and constructive criticism to be healthy. Strong institutions do not seek to censor views that might question how things are run, but instead welcome ideas for improvement and self-criticism, even if those ideas might undercut existing assumptions.

If the Catholic Church is to be successful at evangelization again, it must be open to a full-range debate, including debating previously untouchable topics. The only topics off-limits are those that have been definitively settled, such as the doctrine of the Trinity or the immorality of abortion. An open debate might make us uncomfortable, it might make us uneasy, but it’s essential. Souls are at stake.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; vcii
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1 posted on 08/15/2017 10:30:05 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The Council was totally unnecessary, and should never have been called.

The two most destructive actions:

1) Uglification of the Mass (Novus Ordo)

2) Abandonment of memorization (in U.S., Baltimore Catechism) The “catechetical collapse* was a CHOICE.


2 posted on 08/15/2017 11:04:53 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Nothing is going to improve until VII is reexamined and rejected almost in its entirety.


3 posted on 08/15/2017 12:01:29 PM PDT by livius
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To: ebb tide
Up until Amoris Laetitia, I probably fell into a combination of the "Orthodox Concern" group mentioned above ("The Orthodox Concern acknowledges the existence of problems in the Church that began in the 1960’s. But Vatican II is not to blame; problems...due to...poor implementation of Vatican II") + purposeful misinterpretation of ambiguity in the documents, like what's happened with Amoris Laetitia.

In the past 16 months I've changed over to "Vatican II itself has fundamental problems; problems of ambiguity and perhaps even erroneous teachings." Bishop Anthanasius Schneider helped with his opinion that the Council was NOT infallible, one of the reasons being that they themselves said it wasn't. He has suggested a syllabus of errors be created. If that's done, in addition to that, whatever ambiguity exists in the documents needs to be tightened up, like the dubia cardinals want to do with Amoris Laetitia. Or ditch whatever documents are adversely affecting the Church altogether.

I also never had a problem with the Novus Ordo. But, in light of the destruction I've realized in the past 16 months that it's caused, I believe we should return to the Extraordinary Form. And I agree with Arthur about the Catechism.

4 posted on 08/15/2017 12:06:47 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: BlessedBeGod; All

The beauty of Francis is the fact that he is waking up so many Catholics.


5 posted on 08/15/2017 12:16:31 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: BlessedBeGod
He has suggested a syllabus of errors be created.

I think Pope Blessed Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors is as applicable today as it was in 1862. Francis is full of it with his "god of surprises".

The Syllabus Of Errors

6 posted on 08/15/2017 12:30:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Regarding Amoris Laetitia, I think Pius IX’ listed errors #65 through #68, display the heresy of the former.

65. The doctrine that Christ has raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament cannot be at all tolerated. — Apostolic Letter “Ad Apostolicae,” Aug. 22, 1851.

66. The Sacrament of Marriage is only a something accessory to the contract and separate from it, and the sacrament itself consists in the nuptial benediction alone. — Ibid.

67. By the law of nature, the marriage tie is not indissoluble, and in many cases divorce properly so called may be decreed by the civil authority. — Ibid.; Allocution “Acerbissimum,” Sept. 27, 1852.

68. The Church has not the power of establishing diriment impediments of marriage, but such a power belongs to the civil authority by which existing impediments are to be removed. — Damnatio “Multiplices inter,” June 10, 1851.


7 posted on 08/15/2017 12:44:23 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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Evangelization can be frustrating. After 25 years evangelizing in my personal life and in official roles with the Church, including as a diocesan Director of Evangelization, I know this well. Few Catholics, of course, would be surprised that evangelization can be arduous. They may be surprised, however, at the way censorship in the Church poses a threat to evangelization. The little-known truth is that certain viewpoints, even though compatible with Catholic theology, are censored both by the institutional Church as well as many orthodox Catholic organizations—viewpoints that directly impact the success of evangelization efforts.

You know . . . I was actually hoping against hope that the author would deal with the issue of how the Catholic Church ridicules traditional ideas of Biblical authorship/authority and how it promotes evolutionism and brands any flirtation of any kind whatsoever with creationism to be inherently Protestant, un-Catholic, and heretical.

I should have known better. Apparently evolution and higher criticism are two things all Catholics at all points of the spectrum believe in.

8 posted on 08/15/2017 1:01:19 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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[Condemned:] The prophecies and miracles set forth and recorded in the Sacred Scriptures are the fiction of poets

Wow . . . what trailer park was this redneck born in? The Vatican's going to have to scrub its web site before someone gets the wrong idea![/sarcasm]

9 posted on 08/15/2017 1:05:00 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: ebb tide
65. The doctrine that Christ has raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament cannot be at all tolerated. — Apostolic Letter “Ad Apostolicae,” Aug. 22, 1851.

???

Which of the following two statements does the syllabus condemn:

A) Christ has raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament.

B) Christ has not raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament.

10 posted on 08/15/2017 1:10:36 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You and your one trick pony are getting tiresome.


11 posted on 08/15/2017 3:00:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The syllabus is a list of errors, but I guess you ignored that, being so focused on your pony.


12 posted on 08/15/2017 3:02:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The two most destructive actions: It's a Protestant "mass", lifted whole-cloth from the Book of Common Prayer. We're told that Annibale Bugnini convened a "consilium" unsurprisingly comprised mostly of protestants, who sweated and strained to create a liturgy everyone could agree on. Not true at all. The Book of Common Prayer is hardly a secret. Look it up, and you'll find the Bogus Ordo right there, almost word for word. Here's the link for the Book of Common Prayer: http://www.episcopalchurch.org/files/downloads/book_of_common_prayer.pdf Now, for those who doubt what I have said, see for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APybNbpm4K0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioix3uJyJmA Ask yourself why the Church would cast aside the liturgy that nurtured our forebears, built magnificent, awe-inspiring churches and cathedrals, and fostered saints, whom we so deeply admire, only to replace it with an already-existing protestant service.
13 posted on 08/15/2017 3:13:25 PM PDT by CMRosary (Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
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To: NorthMountain

These syllabus of errors can be confusing. You have to remember that what is written is being condemned. Therefore the Catholic Church condemns the belief that Christ has not raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament.


14 posted on 08/15/2017 3:21:54 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv
Therefore the Catholic Church condemns the belief that Christ has not raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament.

And even that bears a second reading! :D

15 posted on 08/15/2017 3:37:49 PM PDT by CMRosary (Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
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To: livius
Nothing is going to improve until VII is reexamined and rejected almost in its entirety.

And a true Catholic pope will make this happen.

16 posted on 08/15/2017 5:04:21 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: ebb tide
The syllabus is a list of errors, but I guess you ignored that, being so focused on your pony.

Hence my supplying the word "Condemned" in my quotation and then sarcastically remarking that Pius IX must have been a Fundamentalist Protestant for condemning such things. I even marked it as "sarcasm."

You don't seem to see such things, do you?

17 posted on 08/15/2017 5:24:02 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: ebb tide
You and your one trick pony are getting tiresome.

Too bad.

The Catholic Church's utter and complete silence on these issues (even so-called orthodox conservative individuals, publications, and organizations) is even more tiresome.

18 posted on 08/15/2017 5:25:27 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Not from someone who claims the Catholic Church denies Genesis. You quoted Pius IX yourself? What’s your beef with him?


19 posted on 08/15/2017 5:27:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: piusv

Stated differently, Rome teaches that Christ HAS raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament.

Thank you for the clarification.


20 posted on 08/15/2017 6:15:01 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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