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What, Indeed, Is the Quran?
Crisis Magazine ^ | January 9, 2018 | Rev. James V. Schall, S.J.

Posted on 01/09/2018 8:36:32 AM PST by ebb tide

January 9, 2018

What, Indeed, Is the Quran?

Rev. James V. Schall, S.J.

Most people know that the Quran (Qur’an, Koran) is the holy book of the Muslim religion, hence of about a fifth of the world’s population. But knowing this much, we still must grasp the peculiar nature of this famous book, if, indeed, because of its origins, it can be called precisely a “book.” If we ask just when this book was written, or even, who exactly wrote it, we soon run into difficult issues.

First, we have to ask: “What do Muslims think the book is?” Then we have to ask: “What does it look like considering the empirical and historical analyses of its origins and content?” The effort to understand what the Quran is becomes doubly difficult because Muslims themselves will not allow any investigation into, or questioning of, its original sources if it contradicts what the religion insists that it is, namely, a direct revelation from Allah, the Muslim name for what it calls “God.” Any significant divergence from the classic Quranic text will be met with the accusation of blasphemy, which can result in serious legal and even penal repercussions.

“As for the way in which Islam considers itself, two consequences follow,” the French historian Rémi Brague has written:

(1) No religion preceded Islam, which is the religion of Abraham, of Noah, and even of Adam. Islam has therefore inherited nothing and owes nothing to anyone. (2) … The holy books of the other religions (the Torah, the Gospels) are not the prefigurations of the Quran, but, on the contrary, they are distorted versions of an original message that essentially coincides with it.

The only way Islamic scholars could account for the obvious antiquity of the Old Testament—whose stories are constantly rewritten into the Quran—was to claim that the Quran was already written by Allah before the writing of the Old Testament. Indeed, it was “written” in the mind of Allah before creation itself. With no evidence to support such claims, however, the Old and New Testaments in Islamic thought were presumed to have been mysteriously rewritten by Jews and Christians to exclude Muhammad’s name and teachings that were said to be in the original text from Allah.

A second problem arises because the text of the Quran, as we know it, was not written or put together as a single opus until decades after Muhammad’s death (632 A.D.). In addition, the organization of the text has no internal logic. It is pasted together according to the length of the passages, not their chronology or meaning. Here is how Samir Khalil Samir, S.J. put the matter:

Once the official version (of the Quran) was published and disseminated, the khalif Uthmän (d. 656 A.D.) ordered the destruction of all other versions. Hence, the ‘uthmana’ version realized on the khalif’s initiative is the Qur’än we have today. It is a result of a compromise between the seven huffäz, who often differed one from another. Therefore, it is impossible to assert with any degree of certainty that a particular section of the Qur’än is the authentic statement truly pronounced by Muhammad. The original revelations were made over a period of eight thousand days between the years 610 and 632, and no human being could pretend to have such a perfect memory to recall, after many years, the exact words heard only once.

In other words, the text of the Quran, which is said to have come directly from Allah through Mohammed, was put together in such a way that it could not be verified. Most of the original texts on which it was based were destroyed so that the final text could not be re-examined in the light of its composition. However, at least some of these cast-away texts have been located and are under study.

The Quran is said to have been written in pure Arabic. Its literal origin, so it is said, was in the mind of Allah who passed it unchanged directly through Muhammad to mankind. Technically, Muhammad had nothing to do with the basic content of the Quran. That belonged to Allah. Hence, it was considered unchangeable. The book contained Allah’s detailed instructions about what to believe and about how men are to live. It includes promises of rewards for so doing and punishments in Hell for not following Allah.

But “What sort of a ‘book’ is the Quran?” It turns out to be something that is not so easily explained. On request, anyone can obtain a free copy of the Quran from several easily found on-line Muslim sources in just about any language. It is found in most libraries. It can be purchased on Amazon or in bookstores. But once we have a copy of the Quran in our hands, what is it that we actually have?

Many claim that, if we do not know Arabic, we will not really get its true meaning. The Quran itself says that we have to be properly disposed to read it even in Arabic. If we do not understand it, it is our fault. The book is intended to be the final revelation of Allah to mankind.

As we noted, the Quran is said to predate all other scriptures, including the Old and New Testaments, even though it came in time after them. Just how and why this predating is possible constitutes one of the dubious aspects of the claim of the Quran to be what it says it is. If Muhammad lived in the seventh century A.D., how on earth could he have known Abraham, Isaac, and David?

If we ask a research scholar “What is the Bible?” he will give us a long explication of the available sources from which the Bible was fashioned. He will not so much care about what it says or means. He will want to know how it was put together from these fragments and texts that we still possess. The Bible, in this sense, has been and continues to be meticulously worked over so that we know as best we can the authentic “text” of Scripture. This textual work is conceived as supportive of, basic to, a valid reading and understanding of the content of Jewish or Christian revelation.

When it comes to the Quran, we run into the fact that it was not put together in its present form until decades after Muhammad’s death. There seems to have been many full and partial versions of Muhammad’s words floating about the Arabic world in his time. This variety of texts could cause trouble for a revelation that was, in its own wording, final and unchanging. The khalif Uthman, as Samir Khalil Samir pointed out, decided to produce a “definitive” edition. After conflating into one all the texts deemed authentic, the khalif ordered all other copies of the Quran to be destroyed.

Evidently, however, some of these earlier versions have survived in Yemen and other places. A group of German scholars for a number of decades now have struggled, against the bitter opposition of many in Islam, to produce a definitive critical edition of the Quran, one that would take into consideration these variant texts. The fact that, up to now, a critical edition of the Quran does not exist is something of an academic scandal. But it is understandable when we realize that the very lives of those who come up with any questioning of the validity of the Quranic text are threatened.

What is the problem here? Basically, it is this: It may turn out that the text of the Quran is little more than a hastily gathered collection of unrelated texts put together after Muhammad’s death. This origin would mean that the Quran cannot be what it claims to be. Hence, we have the bitter opposition to having the Quran examined carefully for its unity or coherence.

But if we look on the Quran from the Muslim side, we can more easily see the problem. Here in the seventh century A.D. we suddenly have in our midst a revelation that maintains that it is the last and final revelation of Allah. The book contains dozens of stories and instances that are clearly taken from the Old Testament. We find ourselves with Adam, Abraham, Noah, David, even with Jesus, and Mary. To the normal observer, the Quran must have learned about these people and events from the Jewish and Christian scriptures. Yet, if this historical origin is shown, then the Quran was merely a confused effort to rewrite the scriptures already in existence. Besides, Muhammad is nowhere to be found in either the Old or New Testament.

Unless some thesis can be developed whereby the Jewish and Christian scriptures are wrong, we have no reason to give any credence to the Quran. The solution was supposedly found by claiming that all mention of Muhammad that originally appeared in the Old and New Testaments was later excised by Jews and Christians from their scripture. The Quran was not only older than Abraham and Adam, but older than the world itself. It was as it now exists already in the mind of Allah. The Quran thus is a re-write of the scriptures to clarify what they originally said. There is, of course, no textural or archeological evidence that anything like this rewriting ever happened. But since it is fundamental to the Muslim conviction that it must have been that way, it is defended in a way that allows no examination or opposition.

Another basic problem with the Quran has been implicitly granted by Muslim scholarship and tradition. Many basic passages in the Quran contradict each other. At one time Allah says this, at another he says the opposite. Normally, this contradiction would be enough to discredit the whole enterprise. But what happened intellectually and historically in Islam was the acceptance of the fact that Allah could contradict himself. Will (voluntarism) not reason was at the basis of everything. If Allah was not able to contradict himself, he would not be all powerful. We would blaspheme if we denied him this absolute power.

If one thing is right, say the jihad, in one time but not in another, what are we to believe? The Muslim thinkers developed a theory that the last statement in time was the one that was binding. Thus, in the Quran itself the pious Muhammad that appears early in Mecca is quite different from the warrior Muhammad who later appears in Medina. It was from the Medina Muhammad that the wars of Islam against the rest of the world originated. But the wars of Islam are not just wars.

One of the remarkable things about Islam, of course, is its holding itself steady over time to the mission that Allah sent his followers on—namely, to submit the world to Allah and his law. Islam is still true to this universal mission. If we cannot believe that this abiding purpose over time is possible or indeed in effect, we cannot understand the history of the world as it has faced Islam since Muhammad sent out troops from Medina.

The Quran cannot be changed or “reinterpreted” and remain what it is. Wherever its text is read, it will inflame not a few souls, usually young men, to take up the mission of subjecting the world to Allah. The Quran is not just a book to read. It is a book that sends men into the world with a flaming purpose. We may have a difficult time understanding this fact, but that is our problem.

The Quran is a book that tells us of the life and mission of Muhammad, the prophet. The book specifically denies that Christ was the Son of God or that there is otherness in the Godhead. Yahweh and Allah is not the same God. In the Quran, Christianity as such is simply rejected as having no validity. It need not be totally suppressed if its members accept second-class citizenship and pay a tax. We may not like to hear this teaching, but no good Muslim, unless he is trying to deceive us, has any doubt that Allah is exactly as he is described in the Quran. The Quran is a book about man’s complete submission to Allah. It will gladly overturn the world to make this submission prevail. It will only fail if it is prevented.



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To: ebb tide

It’s the collected ravings of a murderous, psychotic, pedophile.

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21 posted on 01/09/2018 9:30:23 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: ebb tide

Allegedly it was dictated to Ol’ Mo by the angel Gabriel. In a cave. I contend you don’t go into a cave to hear the Word of God. If any of this happened, “Gabriel” was an impostor. An expert liar. Who could that be?


22 posted on 01/09/2018 9:32:09 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: bk1000

the guy was a mental case to begin with.....hearing voices long before he went into a cave.


23 posted on 01/09/2018 9:33:45 AM PST by caww
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To: agrace

The very least Francis could be doing is raising theological questions on the assertions made in the Islamic codex (which is their code of observance and behavior) known as Sharia, Beginning with this question
http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm
Instead of equating their bizarre concepts of what a Monotheistic Creator is and requires with what Judeo/Christian beliefs are. While they in the belief that they are following God’s command are ruthlessly murdering and torturing non believers and destroying their edifices.
In days gone by people like this were burned at the stake.


24 posted on 01/09/2018 9:33:52 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The book is what gave license to a degenerate to indulge his perversions.


25 posted on 01/09/2018 9:36:08 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: ebb tide
There are exceptions, but The Bible is often quite critical of its characters, time after time revealing the forgiving nature of God, and even praising those outside its tenets (Deut 4:19 & Mal 1:11).

The quran, OTH, is damning of anyone not accepting of islam. No compromises. No forgiveness.

islam itself means "submission" to allah. Israel means to "struggle" with God.

I prefer the struggle.

26 posted on 01/09/2018 9:36:47 AM PST by onedoug
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To: ebb tide; ptsal; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; ...
FWIW....an article no longer available online from the Wall Street Journal (Internet archive empty as well) tells more about the koran, as it was posted on the Infidel Bloggers Alliance blog:


27 posted on 01/09/2018 9:38:09 AM PST by wtd
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To: ebb tide
Besides, Muhammad is nowhere to be found in either the Old or New Testament.

One interpretation of Revelation is that the False Prophet sn Muhammad.

People who follow the Bible become better people excelling in good works. People who follow the quran become evil murderers.

Thank God most muslims are hypocrites who don't practice their book of lies. For example, I was once in Japan with an Afghanistan cabinet minister who spent his time with whores.

28 posted on 01/09/2018 9:39:32 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: ebb tide

It was a practical joke played on the Arabs by the Jews that went horribly wrong.


29 posted on 01/09/2018 9:39:45 AM PST by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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To: bk1000
An expert liar. Who could that be?

Indeed, according to the Koran, Allah is the 'Master Deceiver'. We know who that is.

30 posted on 01/09/2018 9:44:57 AM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: ebb tide

A book on evil.


31 posted on 01/09/2018 9:48:49 AM PST by mulligan (The)
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To: agrace

Revelation was written around 94-100 AD. Mohamed lived in the 600’s AD. The Bible was finished 500 years before Mohamed was conceived.


32 posted on 01/09/2018 9:51:31 AM PST by chuckles
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To: ebb tide; ptsal; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; BTT
The "Gates of Vienna" blog posted an interesting analogy of the Koran with this recent contribution:


33 posted on 01/09/2018 9:56:12 AM PST by wtd
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To: ebb tide

The Quran is a book that tells us of the life and mission of Muhammad, the prophet.

Actually the Rev is wrong on a number of points:

The koran is just the words of allah and his messengers to Mohammad; The life and times of Mohammad are in the other 4 mussulman holy books - the Hadiths and Sunnahs chronicle the life and sayings of Mo: Talibari, Muslim, Isaq and Bukhari. Hadiths are Mohammed’s word to his followers. The Sunnahs are the history of Muhammad and his motto (sic) was “Kill, kill, kill”.

Perhaps the Rev needs to actually read what is in the koran and the other four books to understand exactly what Mohammad was saying the koranic suras really mean as all practicing mussulman do. Had he done so, he would have learned that the First Given Half of the koran is largely plagiarized from the Bible and the Torah.

Further the Second Given Half is the last words of allah and as such it is Islam - Mohammad specifically voided the first given half for that reason - also because while the First Half was operative Mohammad had only about 150 followers.

With the Second Half urging the deaths of all who aren’t them (especially Jews), Islam took off, murdering its way across North Africa (turning the former Bread Basket of the Ancient World into semi-arid desert), then moving on to the ME and into India, up to Europe where it introduced slavery, destroying Classical Christianity and most of the Classical works of Rome and Greece.

Until Christians across the world and the Catholic Pope (as well as the politicians that run the countries that are not already lost), wake up to the truth of Islam that it is not some later-date form of Christianity, the whole of Western Civilization teeters on the brink of extinction (and if the mullahs that run Iran have their way all of humanity will become extinct).


34 posted on 01/09/2018 9:56:44 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: chuckles

Mohammed was not conceived. Satan appeared on the desert and he squatted and took a dump and he called his scat “Mohammed”. To finish the job, Satan farted and breathed life into his creation.


35 posted on 01/09/2018 9:58:02 AM PST by VietVet876
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To: ebb tide

It’s very interesting that no Muslim can discuss Islam without criticizing Christianity..but the reason for this is found in the Koran.... The Koran is vicious about all other religions..... Due to ‘its dualism’, it has a good word in the beginning about the Jews and Christians, but in the end, the dualism prevails and the Koran”s second view is brutal...... It demands that it, and it alone, determines the truth of all other religions. But the Koran does not stop with religious criticism, but it always includes political persecution of other religions.

The Koran also dictates that all other religions must politically submit in this world. Islam is not just about religion, but ‘politics’.........The Koran is a political text that contains only negative, pejorative, hurtful, insulting words for the non-muslim.

This is clearly evidenced when Mohammed attacked the Jews of Khaybar ... he first called them to Islam. When they rejected this call they were attacked, crushed and made dhimmis...... It was in this vein that bin Laden called America to Islam before he attacked on September 11, 2001 .

So the call to Islam can be from care and concern or it can be a prelude to death by jihad. Such is the dualistic nature of political Islam and the Koran.


36 posted on 01/09/2018 10:13:27 AM PST by caww
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To: mulligan
Mao was responsible for the deaths of 77,000,000 people, Stalin killed about 62,000,000 and Hitler was responsible for the deaths of 21,000,000.... And for the last 1400 years those who imitate Mohammad and follow the Koran have killed over 270,000,000 ........in the name of Mohammad who Islamists hide the murders utter atrocities behind the screen of their imagined God Allah.
37 posted on 01/09/2018 10:20:27 AM PST by caww
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To: ebb tide

Islam is the original pirates code. Business is profit by raiding, looting and murder. Sex? Its up to the man. Anything? Its up to the man. Politically? Pirates are to rule the earth. The “religion” is just a beard for global pirate control.

Screw the pirates!

It’s much like the H>A code. You can jack anyone, they have no rights unless they are a fellow angel.

With that being said, is the HA a religion?


38 posted on 01/09/2018 10:28:54 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: ebb tide

kindling ?


39 posted on 01/09/2018 10:29:29 AM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: ebb tide

...It may turn out that the text of the Quran is little more than a hastily gathered collection of unrelated texts put together after Muhammad’s death....

-Big Mo was illiterate and could not write any notes.
-Big Mo’s last “revelation” was written down and placed under a pillow. Big Mo then croaked. Sadly, a sheep ate that scrap of paper.
-Years after Big Mo died, folks far and wide committed to memory Big Mo’s revelations. Sadly, a certain battle went badly for the mooselimbs, and most of those memorizers were wiped out. To prevent conflict and arguement, four guys got together to create the final version of the Koran, them burned all the remaining scraps of paper.

Summary at the six minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91AM7665cbo


40 posted on 01/09/2018 10:56:57 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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