Utah Baby Names (That distinctive name that says, "I'm Mormon.")

The Utah Baby Namer ^ | Wes and Cari Clark

[BibChr]

Blah blah blah, dodge dodge dodge.

So here's the score:

Factual contents: ME = 1 GRIG = 0
Germane response: ME = 2 GRIG = 0
Lazy Dodges: ME = 0 GRIG = nothing but

Lovin' that Mormon logic (and other oxymorons).

Dan

[Grig]

And AlGore says he won the election.

[BibChr]

(Getting out calculator.) Let's see... that's zero... plus zero... carry the zero....

Still zero!

Dan

[Wrigley]

In NMM, it equals 200.

[Pahuanui]

Lovin' that Mormon logic (and other oxymorons).

Someone who claims to be an adherent of Christianity, whatever the flavor, would do well to consider the inherent absurdity of criticizing someone else's flavor on the basis of logic.

[BibChr]

Mormonism is another "flavor" of Christianity like arsenic is another "flavor" of chocolate syrup.

Dan

[Pahuanui]

Mormonism is another "flavor" of Christianity like arsenic is another "flavor" of chocolate syrup.

Mmm-hmmm. Way to utterly, consciously miss the point, champ.

[A.J.Armitage]

The early Mormon "prophets", in addition to being racists, had a collection of female sexual partners. That's a harem. You cannot deny that.

A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach. (1 Timothy 3:2)

But hey, what did Paul know? He didn't have any wives. No "exaltation" for him!

[A.J.Armitage]

Heresy is nothing to be light hearted about.

[A.J.Armitage]

LDS doctrine is not contridicted by the LDS understanding of the Bible

Do you "understand" there to be a missing "more than" in 1 Timothy 3:2? Hey, maybe it's in that special version of the Bible you Mormons have.

Or Romans 9. Do you "understand" Paul to have been writing on "yes means no day"?

[restornu]

chuckle chuckle you talk from your impure thoughts!

[Grig]

Pretty sad when the only way you can cook up a 'win' is to appoint your team as scorekeeper. Since you seem unable (unwilling is more like it I bet) to recognize opinion, factual content, germane response except when it suits you, as well as your own duck and weave, I'de say Hellen Keller would keep score better.

I have no doubt you are right now mentaly composing your reply and deciding on what manner of schoolyard taunting to put in it this time. Don't waste the effort, save it for someone who cares a flying fig about what you think instead.

[Grig]

"Heresy is nothing to be light hearted about."

It's heresy to give a kid a weird name? Geez, I must have missed that part of the Bible.

[BibChr]

Okay, so that's zero, plus zero, plus zero, plus zero. Total?

ZERO!

Still without a syllable of substantial response:

As I have often said, I would have much more personal respect for the Mormon who said, "Oh, no doubt about it: you can't believe what the Bible teaches, taken by itself, and Mormonism at the same time. They are mutually exclusive. I just like Joe." (I feel the same about JW's and RC's, for the record; just change the source authorities.)

You up to that sort of honesty? Or are you beating the "Yep! Yessir! There is and only can be but one God — AND one day we'll ALL be Gods! Yep! Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone on the basis of the finished work of Christ alone — AND I have to add my good deeds to it in order to be saved" drum?

Dan

[Grig]

I somehow rather doubt you care one bit about knowing what the LDS understanding of the Bible is for any verse.

[CARepubGal]

Tapestry of Polygamy (check them out if you can get past your prejudices) helps women (girls really: married at 11 or 12 then kept pregnant) with little education, no family support (blood atonement is still openly practiced in the polyg communities) and saddest of all, no help at all from the LDS. The last is really bothersome since polygamy was legitimized by JS and is the doppleganger of his modern successors.

[drstevej]

You consider Mormonism just another flavor of Christianity? How about the Branch Davidians? How about the Unification Church? How about the Aryan Nation? How about Christian Science? Just alternate flavors.

Why shouldn't logic play a part in the assessment? Why shouldn't biblical assessment be done? Our LDS friends say if the bosom burns you must not spurn. They know they are right because they know they are right.

I say, be noble and compare Joseph Smith and Bringem Young to the Bible and let the chips fall where they may. Acst 17:11.

I say that any book that is demonstrably a funerary notice but is palmed off as the writings of Abraham describing a Counsel of Gods residing nigh unto the planet Kolob should be not only rejected, but exposed.

I say a religion that makes up ordinances that give people false hope is not neutral, it is spiritually dangerous.

Proxy baptisms, celestial marriage, Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother generating spirit babies waiting mortality, second chance salvation after death... An this is just the beginning. Turning sinners black, convenient revelation lifting polygamy and opening the priesthood to blacks to avoid cultural and legal problems, chocolate rocks used to translated Reformed Egyptian golden plates into King James English....

This is clearly another flavor (another gospel). Baskin and Robins offers 31 flavors, but they don't serve toejam flavor ice cream. Just wouldn't be right.

[CARepubGal]

LOL! So true!

[Grig]

As predicted, nothing but more childish taunting.

Like I said before, you present nothing but old straw men that have already been given substantial responses many times over. [You do know what a straw man is, don't you?]

Since you don't care about that, and you have this delusion that nobody can honestly hold an opinion contrary to your own, I really don't see any point in going over it yet again. A brick wall would be more reasonable to talk with.

You also seem driven by some egotistical need to 'score' but wake up and realize that it isn't a game, and you can't taunt me into some childish fight. I can see your passion is for the fight itself, not for the truth.

If you somehow miraculously convince me that you are sincere and have become reasonable, then I would gladly take the time to go into detail, but getting me to think that way of you won't be easy given the behaviour I've seen from you do date.

If you are so desperate to know exactly how those 'contridictions' you list are distortions of LDS theology without making the effort of becoming a civil human being, go look it up at one of the many fine LDS apologetics sites around. I have better things to do than try to reason with the unreasonable.

Of course, the fastest way to prove you are not sincere or reasonable beyond all doubt is to post a reply making the false and illogical claim that since I will not go into detail, that I can not, especialy after I point that out to you like I just did.

[Grig]

"and saddest of all, no help at all from the LDS"

You think the church should have a band of polygamy police or something? The church has no civic authority or power to punish other than disfellowhip or excommunicate.

Just what do you think the church should be doing that it isn't?