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Electric Space Weather Baffles Scientists
Thunderbolts.org ^ | 11/19/2007 | Michael Goodspeed

Posted on 11/20/2007 3:36:08 PM PST by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 11/20/2007 3:36:09 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: AndrewC; commonguymd; Eaker; Fractal Trader; Fred Nerks; jeddavis; LeGrande; Lokibob; ...
Astronomers puzzled again when confronted with electrical phenomena in Space... PING!

If you want on or off the Electric Universe Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 11/20/2007 3:37:29 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Swordmaker

Has to be a side effect of Global Warming!


3 posted on 11/20/2007 3:43:23 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Swordmaker

“3) The Sun is not powered by some mysterious, internal “nuclear furnace”, but rather externally by electric currents flowing along the arms of the Milky Way.”

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*opens up physics book*

Uhhhhhhh.


4 posted on 11/20/2007 4:00:30 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: Swordmaker

1) The earth, like all of the planets, is a charged body.

2) The Sun has an electric field, and it interacts electrically with the planets.

3) The Sun is not powered by some mysterious, internal “nuclear furnace”, but rather externally by electric currents flowing along the arms of the Milky Way.


The net charge on each planet, and the sun, is zero.
The electric field is neutral, but the magnetic field crosses the entire solar system. Charged particles move along magnetic flux lines, some are positive and some are negative and they sum to zero.
What powers the sun is still assumed to be nuclear fusion which may be so but may not be the whole explanation, and what forms the various planetary magnetic fields is an assumed dynamo effect from the core, but that does not hold up.


5 posted on 11/20/2007 4:06:00 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Swordmaker
Sounds like an astronomer obsessed with Nikola Tesla.
Makes for a good theory on how UFOs can travel through space.


6 posted on 11/20/2007 5:06:09 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Swordmaker
the Earth as a self-repairing,

The nut shell

Someone please let Gore know that the icecaps of Mars are melting at a much faster rate than earths = I'll contribute to a one way ticket...

7 posted on 11/20/2007 5:19:59 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: RightWhale
The electric field is neutral, but the magnetic field crosses the entire solar system. Charged particles move along magnetic flux lines, some are positive and some are negative and they sum to zero.

"Sum up to zero..." or so the astronomers claim... but they have no proof.

"Charged particles move along magnetic flux lines..." Are you absolutely certain of that? Or are the charges separated into charge separated double layers... as we see can form in all plasmas we work with on Earth and that are scalable? Perhaps the magnetic flux lines are there because there are charged particles moving?

What creates your magnetic flux lines? Are they just "there" or are they the artifacts of moving electrons... as are all magnetic fields?

"What powers the sun is still assumed to be nuclear fusion ... " A fusion powered sun does not explain how you get from a 6000º surface to a multimillion degree upper atmosphere by "convection".

"...but that does not hold up..." That's the problem.

8 posted on 11/20/2007 5:53:39 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Hunterite
*opens up physics book*

I've read the physics books, too.... I used to tutor in Physics. (several decades ago). What we have are theories of what powers the sun. One of the serious problems of a Fusion powered sun is where are the Neutrinos? To account for the lack of a sufficient number of neutrinos the latest tweak of the theory is that two thirds of them change into something else before they reach very far... like to the Earth. Why is the solar surface FAR cooler than the solar atmosphere? Why do we see what to all extents and purposes objects on the sun that are identical to birkeland currents we see in plasma laboratories here on Earth... electrical currents of separated charges in plasma sheaths. The one great failure of modern cosmology is in its ability to PREDICT what we will find... while the electrical theorists have made prediction after prediction that have been found to be correct. The proof of a theory is in its ability to make predictions based on that theory... if you can't you throw it out and start over.

9 posted on 11/20/2007 6:00:49 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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“What powers the sun is still assumed to be nuclear fusion ... “ A fusion powered sun does not explain how you get from a 6000º surface to a multimillion degree upper atmosphere by “convection”.

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All the scopes see is increased temperature on surface, which means released energy. A telescope see’s released energy (photons). A radio scope sees released energy (electromagnetic waves). When you look at the sun you are see’ing released energy, not the energy itself.

http://www.sasked.gov.sk.ca/docs/physics/u4b2phy.html

LATENT HEAT:

“The specific latent heat of fusion is the quantity of heat energy released when 1 kg of a substance solidifies (i.e. fuses) without changing its temperature. (liquid to solid)

The specific latent heat of vaporization is the quantity of heat energy needed to vaporize 1 kg of a substance without changing its temperature.” (liquid to gas)

I would imagine that the hydrogen plasma on the surface of the sun would release energy similar to Latent Heat of liquid to gas, or solid to liquid. I don’t know much about plasma. Its the fourth state of matter.


10 posted on 11/20/2007 6:02:54 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: Hunterite

OH! I just thought of a good one. STEAM from a pot of boiling water, both at exactly the same temperature, releases energy faster then the boiling water itself (scalds you more).

EH EH EH EH!

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11 posted on 11/20/2007 6:10:23 PM PST by Hunterite
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OR!

In the corona the electrons from the hydrogen atoms are seperated by greater distances (plasma), so when the electron (and then a miracle happens) jumps back closer to the nucleus it releases a higher energy photon.

C’mon, how complicated can it get, were dealing with just hydrogen.


12 posted on 11/20/2007 6:14:34 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: Swordmaker

It’s Uranus.


13 posted on 11/20/2007 6:17:54 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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Re: just Hydrogen

Any element can form a plasma... just get it hot or charged enough.

Electrons in a plasma are disassociated from the nucleus and can be thought of as free electrons, easily moved through the plasma which is what makes a plasma a good conductor.


14 posted on 11/20/2007 6:47:23 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Swordmaker; 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
Thanks Swordmaker.
 
Catastrophism
 
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15 posted on 11/20/2007 7:25:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Re: Steam and water at the same temperature.

Your thesis that you will be burnt worse from the steam than the water shows you haven’t stuck your hand boiling water. There is more mass carrying the energy in the water, ergo more energy. The steam has far lower mass. Think about getting hit by white hot sparks from a sparkler as opposed to grabbing the sparkler itself. That will get you third degree burns... The spark won’t burn you.


16 posted on 11/20/2007 7:49:07 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Swordmaker

bmflr

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo


17 posted on 11/20/2007 7:51:14 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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Is intrade.com a scam?


18 posted on 11/20/2007 7:58:06 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: Hunterite

Intrade is a prediction market. One thing prediction markets are better at — their only bias is whether someone can make money trading the futures contracts. They have proven to be better indicators than polls.

The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ | November 8, 2007 | Brad Warbiany
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts

Posted on 11/08/2007 12:21:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum


19 posted on 11/20/2007 7:59:46 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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