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NASA now saying that a Dalton Minimum repeat is possible
Watts Up With That? ^ | Jul 28, 2009 | David Archibald

Posted on 07/29/2009 11:20:53 AM PDT by decimon

NASA’s David Hathaway has adjusted his expectations of Solar Cycle 24 downwards. He is quoted in the New York Times here Specifically, he said:

” Still, something like the Dalton Minimum — two solar cycles in the early 1800s that peaked at about an average of 50 sunspots — lies in the realm of the possible.”

NASA has caught up with my prediction in early 2006 of a Dalton Minimum repeat, so for a brief, shining moment of three years, I have had a better track record in predicting solar activity than NASA.

Hathaway-NYT

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: agw; astronomy; catastrophism; climatechange; globalwarming; science; solarcycle; sunspots
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1 posted on 07/29/2009 11:20:53 AM PDT by decimon
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To: xcamel; steelyourfaith

Dalton gang ping.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 11:21:47 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Bush’s fault. Conspiracy of Haliburton and Cheney.


3 posted on 07/29/2009 11:23:10 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: decimon; Genesis defender; proud_yank; grey_whiskers; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 07/29/2009 11:23:54 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: decimon

http://www.armageddononline.org/quiet-sun-dalton-minimum.html

dude, someone wrote a paper in 2005... but you were among the few!


5 posted on 07/29/2009 11:25:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: decimon

bkmk


6 posted on 07/29/2009 11:28:06 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: decimon

Wait! Can’t 0Dumbo just wave his hand and make sunspots appear?


8 posted on 07/29/2009 11:30:35 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Just your average Whitey bitterly clinging to my guns and religion! FUBO Racist Kenyan Usurper!)
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To: decimon
At the top of the article:
NASA’s David Hathaway has adjusted his expectations of Solar Cycle 24 downwards. He is quoted in the New York Times here Specifically, he said:
” Still, something like the Dalton Minimum — two solar cycles in the early 1800s that peaked at about an average of 50 sunspots — lies in the realm of the possible.”

At the bottom of the article:
Dr Hathaway says that we are not in for a Maunder Minimum, and I agree with him.

Huh???

9 posted on 07/29/2009 11:36:23 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: decimon

The entire “global warming” craze is an exercise in what seems to be massive amounts of zero critical thinking at all.

What happens if it warms up?

A few coastal cities flood.
It rains more, because warmer temps means more evaporation, and it’s gotta come down somewhere...
The farther northern areas of potential cropland open up for agriculture...

What happens if it cools?

the coastal cities that were ports find themselves a distance from the sea
Energy production plummets - Alaska, North sea crude..
MILLIONS - perhaps TENS OF MILLIONS of acres of current productive cropland turn to permafrost
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS - perhaps BILLIONS of people starve and/or freeze to death

Maybe I’m missing something here...


10 posted on 07/29/2009 11:37:24 AM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: decimon

You are spoiling Gore’s party.


11 posted on 07/29/2009 11:40:00 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: decimon

You mean this is a bad thing: http://www.spaceweather.com/ ?

Still remember when I showed that site to some libtards a while ago. Their respons? It was fake because NASA is owned by the oil companies. That’s when I called them morons and left.


12 posted on 07/29/2009 11:40:42 AM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: CedarDave
Still, something like the Dalton Minimum ... Dr Hathaway says that we are not in for a Maunder Minimum, and I agree with him.

The Dalton minimum was shorter and not as signficant as the Maunder Minimum. Kinda like the difference between a mag 7 and a mag 9 earthquake. Both are bad news, but the latter is vastly worse.

13 posted on 07/29/2009 11:41:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: InterceptPoint
You are spoiling Gore’s party.

Lesley or Al?

It's their party and they'll cry if they want to...

14 posted on 07/29/2009 11:46:32 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Quix; TaraP

Something about the Dalton Minimum for you.... (I think you were on some threads on the past about sunspots and stuff...)


15 posted on 07/29/2009 12:04:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: decimon

Means colder weather, the growing zones shifting south by about one zone, and crops losses in about a 30% range in the next decade... from what I read about it before...


16 posted on 07/29/2009 12:06:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: dirtboy

“We still don’t quite understand this beast,” Dr. Hathaway said. “The theories we had for how the sunspot cycle works have major problems.”

Funny how Hathaway, whose job with the gov’t is to be their ‘expert’ on the sun, admits he hasn’t a clue about how it works. On the other hand, Al Gore, who isn’t an ‘expert’ on anything, and James Hansen, the gov’t ‘expert’ who preaches the AGW mantra, are completely sure of their unproven theory, based on ‘computer models’. The word for them I think is ‘hubris’


17 posted on 07/29/2009 12:13:10 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: decimon

Wonder if the spotless Sun is contributing to a tropical stormless planet?

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/


18 posted on 07/29/2009 12:20:19 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: dirtboy

Yes, but if you have a major volcanic eruption, as you did with Tambora in 1815, then all bets are off.


19 posted on 07/29/2009 12:21:57 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: wolfcreek
Wonder if the spotless Sun is contributing to a tropical stormless planet?

That's something not much mentioned. Nearly August and not a hurricane in sight.

20 posted on 07/29/2009 12:39:36 PM PDT by decimon
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