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Are the Alps growing or shrinking?
Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres ^ | Nov 5, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 11/05/2009 11:20:48 AM PST by decimon

Correlation between mountain growth and climate

The Alps are growing just as quickly in height, as they are shrinking. This paradoxical result could be proven by a group of German and Swiss geoscientists. Due to glaciers and rivers about exactly the same amount of material is eroded from the Alp slopes as is regenerated from the deep Earth's crust. The climatic cycles of the glacial period in Europe over the past 2.5 million years have accelerated this erosion process. In the latest volume of the science magazine "Tectonophysics" ( No. 474, S.236-249) the scientists prove that today's uplifting of the Alps is driven by these strong climatic variations.

The formation of the Alps through the collision of the two continents Africa and Europe began about approximately 55 million years ago. This led to the upthrusting of the highest European mountains, which probably already achieved its greatest height some millions of years ago. At present, however, the Swiss Alps are no longer growing as a result of this tectonic process.

Swiss geodesists, who have already been measuring the Alps with highest accuracy for decades, have observed, however, that the Alp summits, as compared to low land, rise up to one millimetre per year. Over millions of years a considerable height would have to result. But why then are the Alps not as high as the Himalayas? Researchers from the GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences were able to calculate that mountains eroded concurrently at almost exactly the same speed.

"This mountain erosion cannot even be determined using the highly precise methods of modern geodesy" explains Professor Friedhelm v. Blanckenburg from the GFZ. "We use the rare isotope Beryllium-10, which develops in the land surface via cosmic radiation. The quicker a surface erodes, the fewer isotopes of this type are present therein". Therefore, von Blanckenburg, and the GFZ geoscientist, Dr. Hella Wittmann, have analysed this "cosmogenic" isotope in the sand of the Swiss Alps rivers and, thus, in the direct products of erosion.

How does it come about now that the Alps erode at the same speed that they rise? "Here pure upthrusting forces are at work. It is similar to an iceberg in the sea. If the top melts, the iceberg surfaces out of the water by almost the same share" explains von Blanckenburg. Thus this paradoxical situation with the Alps that through wind, water, glaciers and rock fall, they are being constantly finely eroded from the top but on the other hand, regenerated from the Earth's mantle. This phenomenon, even if already postulated theoretically has now been proven for a complete mountain range for the first time.

Thus, the Alps are constantly rising, although they have been deemed "dead" in a tectonic sense. Instead of plate forces it is the strong climatic variations since the beginning of the so-called quaternary glacial before approximately 2.5 million years, to which mountain slopes in particular have been reacting so sensitively. This holds the Alps in motion.

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism

1 posted on 11/05/2009 11:20:48 AM PST by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Peak compensation ping.


2 posted on 11/05/2009 11:21:47 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

This article just confuses me. If I would have wrote it, I would have put my name as unknown, too.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 11:30:35 AM PST by bigheadfred (Anybody seen my whetstone?)
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To: decimon

Of course they’re shrinking! It’s really, really cold up there!


4 posted on 11/05/2009 11:40:26 AM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: decimon

Redistribute the ALPS!!!


5 posted on 11/05/2009 11:42:28 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: decimon

Yes.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 11:43:43 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: bigheadfred
This article just confuses me. If I would have wrote it, I would have put my name as unknown, too.

I think I see your problem... In very simple terms: You add from below and take away at the top. Get it?

7 posted on 11/05/2009 12:21:54 PM PST by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: bigheadfred

There’s two forces at work here.

Erosion, the wearing-down of mountains, is easily understood. Mountains start eroding the minute they are formed.

The uplift is due to “glacial rebound”, though it wasn’t explained too well in this article. In brief, all the former glaciers that sat on the Alps weighed them down; now that they are melting (and thus weigh less), the ground is “springing back” (albeit very slowly), like a chair that has been sat in awhile.

A similar situation occurs today in Hudson’s Bay, which is still rebounding from the last Ice Age (about 20,000 years ago).

BTW, this process also really complicates figuring out where ancient sea-levels were.

More: http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacial_rebound


8 posted on 11/05/2009 12:33:13 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: decimon; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; 75thOVI; aimhigh; ...
Thanks decimon.
 
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9 posted on 11/05/2009 3:16:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

I watched a documentary on the Himalayas not too long ago. They are growing by 1/2” (approx) a year. The plate they sit on is continually shoving them north and east.

The Earth is alive. And it HATES second-guessers, like Gore and his ilk.


10 posted on 11/05/2009 3:20:45 PM PST by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for ForgotenKnight, my army hero grandson.)
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To: decimon
I don't understand how the weather is accreting minerals on the top of these mountains to make them taller, nor do I understand how the weather could subvert the bases of the mountains to force them upwards.

My take is that one of the above is happening, but frankly, this author does not make the situation clear.

11 posted on 11/05/2009 3:38:43 PM PST by ConservativeMind (I love it every time a criminal dies at the hands of a victim.)
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To: Moltke; canuck_conservative; decimon; SunkenCiv
I'm just griping, people. I understand the concept fine. It is the wording that I take exception to.

The Alps are growing just as quickly in height, as they are shrinking. This paradoxical result could be proven by a group of German and Swiss geoscientists. Due to glaciers and rivers about exactly the same amount of material is eroded from the Alp slopes as is regenerated...

Just griping...

12 posted on 11/05/2009 4:22:49 PM PST by bigheadfred (Anybody seen my whetstone?)
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To: ConservativeMind
I don't understand how the weather is accreting minerals on the top of these mountains to make them taller, nor do I understand how the weather could subvert the bases of the mountains to force them upwards.

What I get from this is that the Alps are somewhat analogous to an iceberg. They are neither growing nor shrinking due to any tectonic forces and so are floating on the soft mantle of the earth as does an iceberg in the sea.

As weather erodes, not accretes, the exposed mountains they lose weight. With lesser weight they are forced upwards as is an iceberg when it loses weight to melting.

If I have it right then this condition would be peculiar to the Alps. Most other mountain ranges would be experiencing different forces causing them to either shrink or grow.

13 posted on 11/05/2009 4:30:20 PM PST by decimon
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To: bigheadfred
I'm just griping, people. I understand the concept fine. It is the wording that I take exception to.

I'm more accepting as I realize that someone had to work down a complicated subject to some few words.

14 posted on 11/05/2009 4:34:37 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

All righty then. (nothing ventured, nothing gained) I may be on a slippery slope here, but I’m a gonna equate “accepting” with happy. If you’re happy then I’m HAPPY! :-)

Besides, all this upthrusting wears me down...


15 posted on 11/05/2009 4:52:38 PM PST by bigheadfred (Anybody seen my whetstone?)
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To: bigheadfred
If you’re happy then I’m HAPPY! :-)

There ya go, Fred. Let a smile be your umbrella.

16 posted on 11/05/2009 5:13:29 PM PST by decimon
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To: bigheadfred

Oh, OK...you do have a point there.


17 posted on 11/06/2009 1:27:33 AM PST by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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