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Violent Past: Young sun withstood a supernova blast
Science News ^ | May 23, 2007 | Ron Cowen

Posted on 10/27/2013 6:03:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Martin Bizzarro of the University of Copenhagen and his colleagues set out to determine the amount of iron in the early solar system. To do so, they measured nickel-60, a decay product of iron-60, in eight meteorites known to have formed at different times during the first 3 million years of the solar system. The meteorites that formed more than about a million years after the start of the solar system contain significantly more nickel-60 than do those that formed earlier, the team found.

In a neighborhood of young stars, only a supernova could have produced iron-60, the parent of that nickel. In contrast, all the meteorites, regardless of age, contain about the same proportion of aluminum. That element doesn't require a supernova source. These findings drastically revise a 30-year-old story line for the origin of the solar system, the researchers say in the May 25 Science. In that scenario, a supernova triggered the collapse of the ball of gas and dust that became the sun. But the new data suggest that the sun had already formed about a million years before the supernova explosion. The sun acquired its aluminum at birth or immediately afterward, Bizzarro says. The fact that all the meteorites had about the same amount of that element suggests that its source was a copious wind expelled by a massive star. The star had to be about 30 times as heavy as the sun, Bizzarro's team calculates. Within a million years, that behemoth -- which would have resided only about a light-year from the newborn sun -- went supernova, driving grains of iron-60 into the sun as well as into surrounding material that would eventually form planets.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenews.org ...


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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


1 posted on 10/27/2013 6:03:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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The Sun: A Great Ball of Iron?
Science Daily
Posted on 07/17/2002 11:33:32 PM PDT by per loin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/718067/posts


2 posted on 10/27/2013 6:07:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: samtheman; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...

Thanks samtheman.


3 posted on 10/27/2013 6:07:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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The Sun: A Great Ball Of Iron?
July 17, 2002
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/07/020717080229.htm


4 posted on 10/27/2013 6:09:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Could the shock-wave have triggered planetary formation?


5 posted on 10/27/2013 6:12:21 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: SunkenCiv

So our sun is a tenacious survivor who withstood a supernova and kept on trucking. I think that’s cool.


6 posted on 10/27/2013 6:15:57 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: null and void

Possibly.
But it could also force the clearing of accretionary materials.


7 posted on 10/27/2013 6:18:22 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: SunkenCiv

8 posted on 10/27/2013 6:19:36 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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Dang, that was fast.

http://www.gotnewswire.com/news/violent-past-young-sun-withstood-a-supernova-blast

Here’s where I found the excerpt:

http://www.hotspotsz.com/Violent_Past__Young_sun_withstood_a_supernova_b__(Article-4816).html


9 posted on 10/27/2013 6:20:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

... so now the search is on to find that went supernova so long ago - look for a nearby neutron star ....


10 posted on 10/27/2013 6:22:39 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Yardstick
1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:2 - And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1:3 - And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 - And God saw the light, and it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.

So, the cosmos was without form, Big Bang created light, long after a local star went supernova for MORE light, and the resulting caused the solar system to form; fish were formed before man, man came about in God's spiritual image having the capacity to think and understand good and evil, and our human nature leads us to choose what is selfish rather than think first of others. Science again runs parallel to Scripture.

11 posted on 10/27/2013 6:22:54 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: 50sDad; Darksheare

Clearing the accretionary materials would move us from living in the midst of a solar illuminated mist to clear daylight sun and clear dark nights...


12 posted on 10/27/2013 6:28:09 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void

And if such a blast was a contribution to LIFE BEARING planetary formation, it would also explain why we arn’t falling all over radio signals from other species...life may be rarer than we thought.


13 posted on 10/27/2013 6:36:38 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: SunkenCiv
An astronomer with the name Bizzarro? Call me a skeptic.
14 posted on 10/27/2013 6:42:56 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: SunkenCiv

“It’s source was a copious wind expelled from a massive star”

So aluminum was made when Bette Middler farted. Who knew?


15 posted on 10/27/2013 6:45:17 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 50sDad

Yup. Similar to the old “passing star pulled enough matter from the sun to form planets being a rare event and that’s why it’s so quiet” explanation.

I think BIG moons are rare, and therefore no tides and therefore no high tidal pools with the variable concentrations of salts and organics sweeping trough favorable domains.

Or who knows? Maybe we are awash in signals propagated by other than electromagnetic waves?


16 posted on 10/27/2013 6:51:58 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: SunkenCiv

is the iron in our blood from a supernova?


17 posted on 10/27/2013 6:55:37 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: null and void; Darksheare

Or, the material out of which they were made could have arrived that way, being ex- of the supernova. There’s a link above to the “iron sun” topic and the underlying article (which isn’t linked at the topic, oddly) which suggests another scenario, which is that our Sun is itself the leftovers of the earlier star.


18 posted on 10/27/2013 7:04:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Yardstick

Takes a lickin’...


19 posted on 10/27/2013 7:04:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: null and void

> Maybe we are awash in signals propagated by other than electromagnetic waves?

That was Thomas Gold’s take on it.


20 posted on 10/27/2013 7:06:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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