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Did the ROMANS discover America? Radical theory claims sword found on Oak Island suggests....
Daily Mail ^

Posted on 12/19/2015 12:11:17 AM PST by wille777

Researchers, led by Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, claim they have evidence that Roman ships visited North America 'during the first century or earlier.'

Their theory centers on the discovery of what they believe to be a Roman sword on Oak Island, off Nova Scotia.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; ancientnavigation; canada; godsgravesglyphs; hoax; moneypit; navigation; novascotia; oakisland; roman; romanempire; shipwrecks
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I don't doubt that ancient Mediterranean peoples could have made it across the Atlantic. But you would think something would have been found.
1 posted on 12/19/2015 12:11:17 AM PST by wille777
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To: wille777

It doesn’t look like any Roman sword I’ve seen. It appears to be bronze, Romans made their swords out of iron. I suppose it could be ceremonial or something, but then it could be fairly modern. Or just a fake.


2 posted on 12/19/2015 12:21:56 AM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: wille777

It doesn’t mean the Romans brought it there.

Could have been brought by Vikings.


3 posted on 12/19/2015 12:22:08 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Hugin

They must have read your post because now the article says it’s a ceremonial sword.


4 posted on 12/19/2015 12:28:26 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping........! :)


5 posted on 12/19/2015 12:29:08 AM PST by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) - Nah. Drake's Drum is Beating strongly.)
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To: wille777

Now if they had found a pizza oven...


6 posted on 12/19/2015 12:32:23 AM PST by twister881
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To: wille777

I like that show. Basically everybody was at that island at one time or another...I am still waiting to see when the Sasquatch were first there.


7 posted on 12/19/2015 12:46:42 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (I am all for making liberals bear food.)
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To: Tzimisce
It doesn’t mean the Romans brought it there. Could have been brought by Vikings.

Bronze hasn't been milspec for bladed weapons since the age of Ramesses III.

8 posted on 12/19/2015 12:50:48 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: wille777

The secret died with them.

When Chris came along, he made a permanent record and now look at the place...


9 posted on 12/19/2015 1:02:45 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy" Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Hugin

No expert here but the dude on the hilt/that ‘is’ the hilt sure looks Greek/Roman in style. And the Romans liked short swords so I suppose it’s possible.

As to the actual arrival circumstance, I’d ‘guess’ loot from a Viking haul that arrived via said Vikings.


10 posted on 12/19/2015 1:16:59 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“As to the actual arrival circumstance, I’d ‘guess’ loot from a Viking haul that arrived via said Vikings.”

For more than fifty years now I have wondered why in the world anyone should be surprised to find there had been numerous pre-Columbian contacts between the Old World and New World cultures going back into the Paleolithic periods.

I like the story about the Carthaginian and Israeli sailors who voyaged from the Sinai, around the Cape of Good Hope, northwards through the Atlantic Ocean, and were shipwrecked in the Gulf of Mexico by a hurricane. Succeeding generations were integrated into an ancient tribe of Amerindians, who were compelled to migrate from Florida to Oklahoma, where 20th Century professors claimed to discover they were using an ancient form of Hebrew language and religious ceremony with an origin story describing their shipwreck.


11 posted on 12/19/2015 1:31:38 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Tzimisce
Could have been brought by the Vikings

There's been speculation that besides the Vikings, with well establish forays into eastern North America, that Irish and Portuguese seamen also got to North America. I wonder if at some point DNA will settle the speculation that those who remained joined native tribes.

12 posted on 12/19/2015 1:36:45 AM PST by grania
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To: WhiskeyX

There is an excellent book called “1421” the year the Chinese discovered America.


13 posted on 12/19/2015 2:00:31 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Roman swords did not have hilts like that. They really didn’t have them at all.


14 posted on 12/19/2015 2:05:23 AM PST by Fai Mao (I've been wrong before)
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To: crazyhorse691

Sasquatch visits were so long ago that everybody has forgotten the dates but it is well known that the Sasquatch buried a fabulous treasure beneath the Aztec treasure ... which is just above the Roman treasures which is just below the Templar treasures ...


15 posted on 12/19/2015 2:47:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: wille777

There is a theory that the copper mines on the UP of Michigan were mined by someone other that the locals as the total amount of copper estimated to have been removed is larger than the known use of that metal by the locals by many orders of magnitude. However, the estimated amount roughly corresponds to the copper amounts used in Europe during the Bronze age ...


16 posted on 12/19/2015 2:51:37 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Actually the hilt looks more like a Celtic style. Celts have a long sword that has that kind of hilt/pommel configuration from history. But I haven’t seen a short sword with one. Could be before they started making longer blades. It isn’t roman as they preferred a more half moon style hilt with rounded pommel. Greek maybe... Perhaps the “sea peoples”? Don’t know enough about their origins to guess honestly.


17 posted on 12/19/2015 3:03:45 AM PST by Lazarus Starr
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To: Tzimisce

Vikings were the ones who had knowledge of big open water.


18 posted on 12/19/2015 3:16:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Lazarus Starr; Fai Mao

I could easily be wrong but that hilt, to my eyes, looks like every Roman/Greek statue I’ve ever seen. It’s pretty artistic and detailed and that was a Roman trademark beyond the man’s physical details.

If it is indeed ceremonial, the size wouldn’t really matter as it wouldn’t be battle oriented.


19 posted on 12/19/2015 3:17:56 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: wille777

The term ‘discover’ means, at least to me, finding AND making use of what you discovered. I prefer, in this and all other pre-Columbus finds, EXCEPTING the Native Americans / First Nations, the term ‘encountered’, indicating accidental and ephemeral.

So how many ephemeral encounters were made on the Western Hemisphere? Given prevailing winds, ocean currents and the ability of hardy people to survive long periods of deprivation, I’d say a LOT! We are talking about pre-history to the late 15th Century.

Still, even though the Norse did make it for centuries at Greenland with a time at Newfoundland, it is still and only Columbus that made the permanent Discovery!


20 posted on 12/19/2015 3:18:11 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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