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Million Plus NJ Gun Owners Defy State Law, Refuse to Turn Over Banned Gun Mags
ammoland.com ^ | Dec. 14, 2018 | John Crump

Posted on 12/16/2018 9:14:36 AM PST by PROCON

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To: BitWielder1

"...I threw mine away, I didn’t know I was supposed to turn them in..."


The conventional wisdom is to not answer your door if the doorbell rings and you’re not expecting guests. That way you are not lying.

41 posted on 12/16/2018 10:10:45 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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“...does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home...”

Neither do shotguns, but that is not the point, nor is home defense the point either, nor squirrel hunting, nor...


42 posted on 12/16/2018 10:11:50 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: PROCON

Awesome.

Shall Not Be Infringed.

Non-Negotiable.


43 posted on 12/16/2018 10:12:41 AM PST by TADSLOS (My favorite essential oil is bacon grease.)
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To: PROCON

Another way to bilk the taxpayer.


44 posted on 12/16/2018 10:13:12 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Retain Mike
The right protected by the Second Amendment is "to keep and bear arms." "Arms" comprises the entire firearm, including the magazine.

If the Gestapo can arbitrarily restrict the capacity of the magazine to 10 rounds, it can restrict it to 9. Or 8. Or 5. Or to a single shot. No more magazine-fed firearms at all.

Continually restricting the aspects of a firearm -- magazines, ammunition, parts -- or enacting burdensome taxes, is de facto denial of the Second Amendment. It's the coward's way of sneaking in the back door.

46 posted on 12/16/2018 10:19:12 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Hot Tabasco

That’s true.

Or the undercover LEO could arrest the possessor on the spot.

Selective enforcement of the law is the easiest way to cow the peasants.


47 posted on 12/16/2018 10:23:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: PROCON

You are seeing a million conservative voters becoming criminals. I guess it is true, if you make guns illegal only criminals will have guns. Stroke of a pen and a million new criminals, kinda cool.

Sounds like the Dem plan is working as hoped.


48 posted on 12/16/2018 10:31:31 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: PROCON

Of course. what did the commie-Demo-SorozNazi dictator party bosses expect, anyway?


49 posted on 12/16/2018 10:33:20 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE) Is)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Hot Tabasco; IronJack

"...arrest the possessor on the spot..."


What a tragedy it will be for some unfortunate man or woman in that state totally unaware of the new legislation.
They will think they are visiting the range to have fun and will find themselves heading to prison for a few years missing thousands of dollars.


50 posted on 12/16/2018 10:35:06 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: PROCON

They’ll destroy them or mail them to family or friends out of state first ,LOL


51 posted on 12/16/2018 11:02:17 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: PROCON

IIRC, There is an exception in the law...for pre-owned guns.


52 posted on 12/16/2018 11:05:36 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: PROCON

Just as the concept that law abiding citizens should not fall prey to non-law abiding ones when it comes to weather or not concealed carry should be allowed, neither should the non-law abiding be able to have more ammunition capacity than the law-abiding citizen. And, magazines are not accessories, they are essential to the functionality of a semi-automatic firearm.


53 posted on 12/16/2018 11:18:10 AM PST by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: PROCON

What kind of utter scum-of-the-earth would vote for a Demonicrat NJ governor who would sign a bill like this?!?


54 posted on 12/16/2018 11:18:27 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Sacajaweau

"...exception for pre-owned guns..."


Dana Loesch covered this very unfortunate New Jersey legislation.
Age of manufacture is of no impact.
If one has a Beretta, Glock, or SIG from 1998 (for example) with 12-round magazines, that person is still a felon.


55 posted on 12/16/2018 11:25:19 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: PROCON

“In Jersey anything’s legal as long as you don’t get caught”


56 posted on 12/16/2018 11:42:16 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Reno89519

So if anything over 10-rounds are prohibited, most police agencies are violating the law. Since the Sig P-226 is a favorite among agencies and they come standard with a 15-round mag.

I hope the legislature has allocated the funding to replace these mags since the law goes by potential capacity and not what is in the mag.

Sounds like what our department did when they upgraded to .357’s back in the 70’s. People complained so they made us carry .38spl in the Smith’s. Did that for years until we upgraded to semi-auto’s...Sig P226 9mm w/ 15-round mags.


57 posted on 12/16/2018 11:42:51 AM PST by offduty
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To: MarMema

you’re right, it was maryland:

Maryland’s ‘Red Flag’ Law Turns Deadly: Officer Kills Man Who Refused To Turn In Gun

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/11/05/fatal-officer-involved-shooting-in-anne-arundel-county/


58 posted on 12/16/2018 11:45:23 AM PST by Bob434
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To: offduty

The law exempts department-issued weapons and magazines but NOT LEO privately owned weapons and magazines. And as I doubt most LEOs only have department-issued weapons and magazines, they are all violating the laws they are tasked to enforce. Thus, if there is to be any enforcement, start with them first!


59 posted on 12/16/2018 11:46:22 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: Bob434
NY’s ‘safe act’ was brought, but SC refused to hear it i believe- if i remember right they said it was a state issue-

Your memory is most likely inaccurate since the SCOTUS rarely announces the reasons why it refuses to take a case. Sometimes the reasons have nothing to do with the merits of the case; sometimes the concern is that case could produce a bad precedent. Indeed, if I recall correctly, the NY Safe Act case, if cert had been granted, would have gone to the SCOTUS after Scalia's death, but before the appointment of his replacement, and in all likelihood, the Court would have voted 4 to 4 to affirm the lower court decision, and effectively bar challenges to the Safe Act at a future date.

60 posted on 12/16/2018 12:20:23 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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