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How to Build Up Your Life from Nothing.
Metallicman ^ | Posted update 6-3-2019 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 06/02/2019 7:06:48 PM PDT by vannrox

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To: vannrox
If you get on welfare, or food stamps to help get fed, the moment you get a job, of any type, it is pulled out from under you.

That can't be parsed.

You're hopeless - in more ways than one.

G'Nite!
41 posted on 06/02/2019 9:39:30 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: vannrox

Encouraging. Find a good church and find out your spiritual gifts. Very important.


42 posted on 06/03/2019 2:02:47 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (God Bless President Trump!)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Yes. I have to underline this thought.

Maybe everyone is laughing at you, and snickering at you behind your back. But, if you go to a church, you can find friends, help, direction, and spiritual guidance. And when a young man is in distress, he NEEDS that kind of Godly guidance.


43 posted on 06/03/2019 2:28:27 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: vannrox
Right off the bat, "There is some hurtle in the way"

Hurtle the turtle? I will now read the article to see if there is any there, there.

44 posted on 06/03/2019 3:08:42 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: outofsalt
Right off the bat, "There is some hurtle in the way"

Hurtle the turtle? I will now read the article to see if there is any there, there.

Well...

I actually lived in a van for a number of years.

Then he became a blogger.

45 posted on 06/03/2019 3:19:22 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: vannrox

Pretty long-winded screed to spread a few common sense tips through - most of us know how to get over them “hurtles”...


46 posted on 06/03/2019 7:21:19 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: alexander_busek
And failed miserably, because he was a terrible human being!

That doesn't matter in the least. There are lessons to be learned even from failure.

47 posted on 06/03/2019 8:36:55 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I heard a joke the other day that the CNN poll showed . . . No that was it. The CNN poll.)
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To: trebb
Pretty long-winded screed to spread a few common sense tips through - most of us know how to get over them “hurtles”...

Common sense to us but common sense ain't all that common anymore. We have high school graduates that are functionally illiterate, unable to balance a checkbook or to do basic house maintenance.

48 posted on 06/03/2019 8:42:11 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I heard a joke the other day that the CNN poll showed . . . No that was it. The CNN poll.)
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To: vannrox
I have no real issue with the main points of your essay, but am sincerely perplexed by your choice of the despicable, damnable "Fred C. Dobbs" as an exemplar.

He is obviously written (by Traven) and portrayed (by Bogart) as an almost entirely unsympathetic man of low morals. Even before the "gold fever" strikes, he is shown in one scene (where they talk about their plans once they strike it rich - Curtin wants to indemnify a widow and grow peaches, etc., while Dobbs leeringly tells of how he would go to a bordello) to be wholly different from the other two adventurers.

Significantly, he meets his end at the hands of "Gold Hat," who uses a machete to hack away at him like the snake he is.

It is impossible to view Dobbs as a character to be emulated.

Regards,

49 posted on 06/03/2019 8:54:23 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: vannrox
Great advice.

There is, however, one vital aspect of life that tops all these fine points you've made. A vital aspect of life you have not mentioned.

I've read your FReep page, and I'm sorry to see that you in fact failed at this most important issue of life. I guess that's why you did not even go there.

Marriage.

50 posted on 06/03/2019 10:35:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd ( Import the third world and you'll become the third world.)
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To: alexander_busek

Actually, if you follow the link and read the full article, showing the pictures, the GIFs, the embeds, and all the rest, you would see that the pictures of Dobbs was ONLY for illustrative purposes. He was not used as much of an example, other than to depict a person who is out and down on his luck.

The GIF’s such as “never give up” and “never surrender” are meant to encourage.

Normally, I only provide excerpts on FR to my essays. At that, I get a lot of squeal from trolls. But you can see how FR is not really able to convey anything other than the text content. In a way, it’s pretty sad, because it’s like going to a movie, and only listening the soundtrack, where all the visuals are removed.

I agree that Dobbs is a thoroughly despicable character. Yet, in the beginning of the movie “The Treasure of the Sierra Maudre”, he was a young American man down and out on his luck. It was that image, not the image from the later part of the movie that I wished to convey.

If you would do me a favor, please click on the link and just skim through the article to see all the pictures, GIFs and emdeds that the FR text editor removed. You will be able to clearly see that Dobbs was an illustrative example by way of his theatrical makeup.

Dobbs looked like the young men of today feel.

That is the purpose of using his imagery.


51 posted on 06/03/2019 4:21:45 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
There are many essays that I have written.

This one, in particular, was chopped to bits by the FR text editor. Note to self... only provide excerpts from now on. Otherwise, the article loses all content.

This essay was directed at what men need to do BEFORE they get married. It's all about that rough time in their life when they exit school and are just starting to find their way in the world. To some it might sound like common knowledge, but given what the modern American schools teach these days, I do believe that young men need direction.

Thus the essay.

I do have a post, actually a couple, on marriage, and you might find them enlightening.

The story about how I got married to my Chinese wife

Great wedding ideas from Chinese weddings

The important things that a man looks for in a woman

The two fundamental types of families and how they work

The importance of a family meal together

You are correct that the person you will marry with have an almost total influence on the life that you will live. Which is why I broke them out of this particular essay. You will also find that I have very old-fashioned and traditional ideas about marriage, family, and relationships. Many of which might be too annoying to the people on FR. The archo-femminist-conservative trolls would eat me alive for my singular beliefs.

I think that if you read any of the links you will discover that I hold being married to be one of the greatest and most important things that I have ever done in my life. However, it really has no place within this particular essay.
52 posted on 06/03/2019 4:38:03 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Marriage

There is no upside in marriage for man. None. And you can’t name one. I advise as many young men as I can to steer clear of it.

53 posted on 06/03/2019 4:48:52 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock
There is no upside in marriage for man

My husband would disagree with you (as would I). Many, many men are extremely happy to be married. For families with young children, what better than to have a good marriage and raise your children together (as my #1 son and his wife are doing), he also would disagree with your assessment. I'm sorry you feel that way.

You would prefer men have children and not be married? You prefer men end up living alone instead of having a loving wife for companionship? Makes no sense at all to me.

54 posted on 06/03/2019 4:53:54 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl
My husband would disagree with you (as would I).

Ha ha! Your husband would not disagree with me. He just does not let on. So give me one, just one upside that being married holds for your husband. Not an upside for you. An upside for your husband. Just one.

55 posted on 06/03/2019 4:59:07 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: ozarkgirl
Many, many men are extremely happy to be married.

They really are not. They are tolerating it because they realize they made a mistake and they are just riding it out because they are creatures of the status quo. Or they are afraid of losing everything if they split.

For families with young children, what better than to have a good marriage and raise your children together (as my #1 son and his wife are doing),

A man is fully capable of raising well adjusted children on his own, if that is what he chooses. And he gets to keep his freedom, autonomy, and money.

he also would disagree with your assessment. I'm sorry you feel that way.

I know you are sorry I feel that way. As a woman, you do not want the gravy train to end for the sisterhood. But I’m here to turn this franchise around.

56 posted on 06/03/2019 5:21:22 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

My husband and I are Christians, he would not respect a cheap woman who just wanted to play around. I make more than he does so don’t give me that about a woman in it just for money. I was divorced before and he got just about everything and he was having an affair, I did not fight him for possessions and he is most likely a millionaire now or close to it. You are one bitter man probably caused from one nasty woman, perhaps you need to develop a better taste in women. And I’m afraid with that attitude, you’re probably not going to get the interest of the cream of the crop when it comes to women.

1) Security
2) No need to keep running around - a regular sexual partner
3) Help at home with responsibilities - mowing, gardening
4) A companion at events
5) Companionship
6) Dinner
7) Someone who has your back when the world seems out to get you
8) Someone to bounce ideas off of


57 posted on 06/03/2019 5:55:45 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: alexander_busek

Oh, one more thing.

Know your audience. Most people under 25 years of age, have no idea who the Dukes of Hazzard were, John Wayne, Soopy Sales, they have never heard of Led Zeppelin, Yes, or Traffic, and think that the movie “Inception” is classic old-time Science Fiction.

The odds that they would recognize Dobbs, his role, or the movie role that he portrayed is minuscule.

People like you and I, sure we know who he is, and what he represents. But, you know, this essay isn’t written for us. We have already gone through the hard knocks school of life.

This reminds me of an episode from the 1980’s sit-com “Who’s the boss”, where Tony Danza had an opportunity to make up a television commercial. It was cute, smart, funny and attractive, but turned off his target audience. For he forget the most fundamental lesson; you write for a specific audience.

Posts on FR do not target LGBT activists. Just like the lies bantered about on CNN are designed to feed the liberal fanatics. FOX has a target audience and they cater their editorial narrative towards that demographic.


58 posted on 06/03/2019 6:03:28 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: ozarkgirl
You are one bitter man probably caused from one nasty woman,

Nice try throwing out a red herring to discredit a very rational point on my part. Not going to work. I’m not bitter , and no, no one “hurt me” LOL!

1) Security
2) No need to keep running around - a regular sexual partner
3) Help at home with responsibilities - mowing, gardening
4) A companion at events
5) Companionship
6) Dinner
7) Someone who has your back when the world seems out to get you
8) Someone to bounce ideas off of

But thank you for proving my point. You’ve literally listed no upsides for the man. These are all upsides for the woman. Security? No. That’s for you. No need to keep running around? Again that’s more of a you thing. Companionship? A guy doesn’t need marriage for companionship or sexual partners. Dinner ? I don’t even know what that means. A single guy can get his own dinner. And the last thing a man needs is someone nagging him which is what the last two points are really all about.

Sorry, I have steered many young men away from throwing their lives away and I will continue to do so. Not better. Happy, very very happy.

59 posted on 06/03/2019 6:09:35 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

Oh my gosh, you think if it’s an upside for women it’s a downside for men? Ouch, all those are upsides for both of us. Yeah, i’m beginning to understand why you have a problem with women (hint - it’s not the woman). You are a true misogynist.

I hope you’re not trying to convince Christian men to birth babies out of wedlock, it’s not God’s way and it’s not good for the kids. It was a better world when children were raised by both parents in the same home. I’m sure I won’t convince you. Check out the statistics after divorce, the man (at least used to) did much better financially than the woman.

https://www.jameslafevor.com/survives-divorce-better-men-women/ An article in Psychology Today reports that men crave relationships and marriage as much as women. Men are often happier in their marriages than women, men enjoy greater financial wellbeing and health from marriage than do women, and divorce is associated with worse physical and mental health for men.

I pray you cease trying to convince young men not to marry. My oldest son highly encouraged friends of his to marry and when the neighbor who lived down the street was going to marry his live in lover, my son convinced him to move into their house and not live with her until they were married. He has a beautiful wife, wonderful children and I’m very proud of them. They did it right. They honor each other. Marriage can be a beautiful thing for both sides. Again, I won’t convince you but don’t let your hard heart ruin people who might have a chance at happiness.


60 posted on 06/03/2019 6:23:16 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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