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Portland Restaurateur David Machado Will Close All of His Restaurants Permanently
Eater ^ | May 22, 2020 | Alex Frane

Posted on 05/24/2020 6:12:04 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

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To: DannyTN
And in looking at the charts some more, it appears to me you are intellectually lazy re: your post.

Take for example the drop in restaurant traffic. I would expect you to consider that traffic started to decrease in large part due to the stories about COVID-19 that were being reported by the media. Weren't there stories that COVID-19 was highly contagious and more lethal than the flu? Could that not had *anything* to do with the decrease in traffic? No? Yes?

Instead you are saying that the economy was tanking before the COVID-19 lockdowns as if COVID-19 was not a factor.

Like I said, lazy.

41 posted on 05/24/2020 7:33:51 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: mrsmith

“a restaiuranteur will be able to basically come right back after bankruptcy.”

Nope. Losses already exceed future profits. Dead business.


42 posted on 05/24/2020 7:34:58 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Yep. Too bad he chose Portlandia.


43 posted on 05/24/2020 7:35:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: DannyTN
I'm making the point that mayors and governors who issued lock down orders aren't responsible for all of the economic damage. There was already lots of economic damage as consumers reacted to the virus occurring prior to the lock down orders.

You should have stated that along with the charts.

I think a strong case can be made that the lockdowns have had a serious negative effect on the US economy.

44 posted on 05/24/2020 7:35:52 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: Fury

Did I really need to explicitly say that the economy was going down due to COVID?

The point was that the economy was tanking due to COVID prior to the lock downs.

Y’all want to lynch the mayors and governors who issued lock down orders. Economy was taking prior to the orders.


45 posted on 05/24/2020 7:38:37 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: nwrep

This is so sad.

I’m so sick of this China Damn Flu ChiComChitShow.


46 posted on 05/24/2020 7:43:58 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: DannyTN
Economy was tanking before the lock downs.

B.S. - Knock it off.


47 posted on 05/24/2020 7:48:06 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Hambone 1934

This whole thing is not by happenstance . . . . https://nationalfile.com/fauci-photographed-with-soros-and-bill-gates-father-who-was-head-of-planned-parenthood/


48 posted on 05/24/2020 7:48:06 PM PDT by Maudeen (The Rapture . . . Separation of Church and State)
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To: DannyTN
Chart showing the stock market tanking long before the first lock down

The stock market began to tank immediately after our politicians on the Hill found out about the Wuhan Virus. They began selling millions of shares of their stocks. Our representatives' stock brokers saw what was happening and they bailed.

49 posted on 05/24/2020 7:51:53 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: CheshireTheCat

I’m sure governor Bi-Karen will regard this as a victory of sorts.

Open up safely and swiftly!


50 posted on 05/24/2020 7:52:01 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: CodeToad

Someone who successfully runs a service and is put down by a situation like this is yet very creditworthy to succeed at that service when demand returns.
What’s better for his landlords?
Can they make more money renting to someone else?
I assume present losses will be ‘adjusted’ by negotiation or legally.

But at the heart- he’s proven he can do it.


51 posted on 05/24/2020 7:52:22 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: DanZ
I would guess you have little knowledge of everyday economics or capitalism

I guess you have very little knowledge of what was going on in January. Bite me.
52 posted on 05/24/2020 7:58:35 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat; DannyTN
Completely ignore this troll Danny maybe he will find someplace else to spread his fear mongering!! He just can NOT admit to himself he was DEAD WRONG about this virus!{

Stating an opinion and being wrong is one thing, but what this guy is doing is completely different. He is actively pushing a narrative, and is quite clearly ignoring all of the logical arguments. I don't mean he isn't understanding or accepting the arguments - I mean he is literally ignoring them. That is usually one of the surest signs of a troll.

Now, in addition to the fear-mongering he's been doing with the virus stuff, he's trying to push the idea that the economy was collapsing anyway in order, apparently, to further push a demoralizing narrative. It's pretty darn obvious.
53 posted on 05/24/2020 8:13:25 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Jane Long
The economy was tanking due to COVID before the lockdowns. Is that more clear?
54 posted on 05/24/2020 8:16:24 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Shouldn’t a clown like you be posting over at DU?
You’ve been wrong since the beginning of this bullsit.
Stop polluting this board.


55 posted on 05/24/2020 8:19:41 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: DannyTN

The rate of decline post lockdowns was far more drastic and the bounce back would have happened much sooner without all of these lockdowns. The decline in revenue in the first half of much was painful but it fell off a cliff once the lockdowns started. The daily data for the hotel industry was eye opening (I’m an exec in the industry). Our revenue was down 5% in the first half of March and down 40% in the back. The industry as a whole was down 15% in the first half of March and down 90% in the back.


56 posted on 05/24/2020 8:21:42 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: CheshireTheCat

Portland is filled with Socialists but it is also filled with very good restaurants.
This is bad news for Portland residents.


57 posted on 05/24/2020 8:25:57 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: DannyTN

“Chart showing airline traffic plummeting before the lock downs.”

What is shows is that peop0le freely started taking steps to reduce risk BEFORE the state governments got involved. REASONABLE steps, unlike the stay at home orders that followed!

The stock market, BTW, ANTICIPATES FUTURE PROFITS. It is not based on current, today’s date earnings!


58 posted on 05/24/2020 8:26:20 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: DannyTN
Y’all want to lynch the mayors and governors who issued lock down orders. Economy was taking prior to the orders.

Are you actually trying to sell the codswallop that the lockdown orders didn't have an additive affect to the fear that already existed? It's obvious to any thinking human being that the lockdowns magnified the economic downturn by an order of magnitude.

Go sell stupid somewhere else.

59 posted on 05/24/2020 8:31:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (If you see me wearing a mask ... don't assume I'm wearing it for Covid-19.)
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To: Drew68

That ship sailed weeks ago with the decisions to penalize those states with lockdowns greater than 2 weeks.

Early on the metaphor was “domino-effect”; I would argue the correct metaphor is “snowball-effect”.

Most people have no idea the damage that’s been wrought and are unable (or unwilling) to see the forest through the trees.

It’s going to get worse...MUCH worse...before it improves.

I hazard “Great Depression II”


60 posted on 05/24/2020 8:34:08 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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