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Sorry, Trump Lost(hurl alert)
National Review ^ | May 25th 2023 | JOHN MCCORMACK

Posted on 05/27/2023 4:52:00 PM PDT by Ennis85

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To: linMcHlp

I appreciate those links and I’m familiar with every one. Here is the evidence seems to have the largest database of info but is likewise the hardest to sort through.

And I’m glad to have and see those resources, but they in no way correlate to any action, or future plan by Donald Trump to do anything about it.

Has he ever even mentioned any of those resources that you are aware of? Not that I’m aware of. Best I can tell, he doesn’t even care one way or another if they even exist or not, much less be actively involved in their work, or Heaven forbid actually lead a project of his own. You know Soros has an organization that does that sort of thing, so does Mark Zuckerberg. Does Trump?

No Sir, when it comes to actual action, on investigating election crime, or more importantly cleaning it up, he is completely AWOL. It’s nothing more than a talking point, no matter how emotional and worked up he gets whenever it’s mentioned. My dad would have told me “well son you can’t just cry about something all the time. You have to either do something about it, or move on to something else so you don’t have to think about it, because no one wants to listen to a worthless crybaby all the time.”


61 posted on 05/27/2023 9:21:15 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe DeSantis wants to raise sales taxes by 23% as Trump claims in his big new ad?)
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To: Golden Eagle

I agree with you. I also have to say that he made a real effort to TANK the GA Senate races, and in that he prevailed. Plus, he is behaving idiotically to DeSantis, and now I am reverting to what I thought about him originally (and I am familiar him from his very first days in NYC), which is that he’s a buffoon. And this is what so many people, esp. women think about him.

I just don’t feel like he’s helping, and also sorry, but a lot of the covid over-reaction came from him. And he’s still at that in a lot of ways.


62 posted on 05/27/2023 9:24:23 PM PDT by jocon307 (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: Samurai_Jack
Go out and mass produce votes then harvest them better than the democrats do it.

They register felons, illegals, senile people in nursing homes, dead people, dogs, cats and imaginary people.

If you think you can beat them at this game of fake illegal voters, you are simply mistaken.

63 posted on 05/27/2023 10:24:56 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Golden Eagle
Trump does seem to have an out-of-office administration for addressing various errors on his part.

Meanwhile, I try to gather info.

For example, you might see my replies 59, 60, 61, and 62 at Kari Lake’s attorney: Evidence of rushed ballot verification warrants overturning 2022 election

Also, I am working up a list of the number of actual registered voters per state. This work requires online visits to the Secretary of State office for each state.

Otherwise, the statistics used by the media, by government, and many other organizations, are estimates based upon estimated information that is gathered by the U.S. Census. I'd qualify that, by saying, that a few organizations such as Judicial Watch and Heritage Foundation, probably have some reliable numbers/stats.

Some states offices have the information. Arkansas information is difficult to find, and they might do that on purpose. Because academics, the liberal media, and some organizations will use voter stats against a state - re the usual hammering: "chilling effect" and other slings and mud tossed from the left.

64 posted on 05/27/2023 10:35:49 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Golden Eagle
That said, Trump has had over two years, and $250 Million donated to him specifically to find out and present exactly what happened, and he has completely failed in conclusively proving anything illegal.

If you can't get a court to look at it, you can't prove anything. You blame Trump for our utterly garbage courts? They've been around long before him.

Ignoring the ridiculous courts and looking at the evidence directly, it is very clear that the elections in several swing states were completely rigged.

He never even really tried. He disappeared right after the election and went to work on his new website, where it’s apparent he believes just using a megaphone to whine into an echo chamber of disciples is more effective for maintaining control of his base than ever actually proving anything to the world at large.

Let me guess. You are on the DeSantis bandwagon? This stuff only makes sense if you want to believe that's what happened, but it makes no sense if you keep up with the reality of what happened.

But those that expect some actual proof, will continue to have just enough doubt that they don’t want to hear more whining about it,...

After all the numerous articles posted here on Free Republic have shown the proof over and over and over again, how can anyone that is on Free Republic still pretend that the evidence isn't massive and very conclusive?

95% of all military Ballots in Arizona went to Biden? Does that even make sense to you? That's like a Joseph Stalin election. It is false on the face of it.

The most damning thing besides Trump never providing any actual evidence, is that Trump hasn’t done a single thing to try to secure elections going forward,

And what is it you are imaging Trump can do about crooked elections in swing states? The people of those swing states have to do something, Trump can only urge them to do something, which seems to me exactly what he has been doing.

65 posted on 05/27/2023 10:44:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Golden Eagle

bkmk 2020 election and vote fraud investigation by Trump is un-organized and lacking in accurate details


66 posted on 05/27/2023 11:09:47 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: DiogenesLamp
If you can't get a court to look at it, you can't prove anything.

The courts all told him, one after another, over and over, you can't contest an election until the election is decided, and you have actual damages that you can show which give you legal standing. Yes I know to the average layman that doesn't make sense, but that is the law.

Ask Kari Lake. When the same issue recently came up in Arizona (because Trump hasn't done squat to help fix the problems there), she told everyone that she had to wait until the election was officially decided before she could file her lawsuit, which she then did as soon as legally possible.

So what did Trump do, once the election was decided (Jan 7)? He took the $250M that had just been donated to him to contest the election, and went off to Silicon Valley to build a new website, instead.

After all the numerous articles posted here on Free Republic have shown the proof over and over and over again, how can anyone that is on Free Republic still pretend that the evidence isn't massive and very conclusive?

Sure, I've seen a lot of stuff, already stated in this thread twice I have evidence of my own that's right there on my FR homepage and has been for 2.5 years now. But none of it came from Trump. He's not done a single thing to quantify and present anything himself, and more importantly, he clearly has no plan to do anything about it in the future either.

Sure, he'll wave his hands in the air during some rally and say we should only allow same day, in person voting, but that's the same empty promise he made back before 2020. Didn't help then and it won't help now.

95% of all military Ballots in Arizona went to Biden? Does that even make sense to you?

Doesn't sound legit to me. So what has Trump done about it? You do know that it is very important to start investigations quickly, while the trail of evidence is hot, not still be complaining two and a half years later while having done nothing.

The people of those swing states have to do something, Trump can only urge them to do something

Ridiculous. You don't know about George Soros having his own political storefront organization and boots on the ground in every swing state? Zuckerberg too, unfortunately guys like that have just outsmarted and outperformed Trump, who is all talk. Yeah he's a good talker, but talk is cheap, too. And the same old message gets old after while. Show me some progress on securing elections, not just the victim card all the time. He put mostly crooks in office while he was there anyway, so no wonder it got stolen.

67 posted on 05/27/2023 11:15:32 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe DeSantis wants to raise sales taxes by 23% as Trump claims in his big new ad?)
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To: Golden Eagle

Correction:

Trump does NOT seem to have an out-of-office administration for addressing various errors on his part.


68 posted on 05/27/2023 11:17:58 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

I just updated my Tagline. It’s definitely something everyone should consider when looking at who to trust into the future.


69 posted on 05/27/2023 11:26:24 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: Samurai_Jack

That won’t work in the key cities.

And the RINOs were part of it, so who’s going to help beat the game in Trump’s favor?


70 posted on 05/28/2023 12:36:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Jim Noble
Biden got 306 votes out of 538 in the only election that mattered.

It took a boatload of fraud to get there.

71 posted on 05/28/2023 3:42:28 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: Ennis85

Could the NR be any worse? All the smug with all the wrong with all the undermining of Americans.


72 posted on 05/28/2023 3:47:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Golden Eagle

“I made it clear that I believe something was at least odd about the 2020.”

Something was odd. Ha, ha... I don’t believe standup would be a bad career choice for you.

First, you must not be paying attention. Have you not seen what the FBI and DOJ are doing to both suppress and destroy anyone that questions the elections? Locking people up for years for peacefully walking through the capital. Destroying anyone’s life that dares goes against the narrative. Sending the IRS to destroy them when they can’t lock them up? But I guess the less you know the better you’ll sleep.


73 posted on 05/28/2023 7:34:35 AM PDT by BushCountry (A properly cast vote (1 day voting) can save you $3.00 a gallon.)
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To: Ennis85

It seems many of these Trump-hating political analysts wish to triple-down and go on record as being clueless morons.

They are still calling 2020 an honest election and anyone who doubts it a domestic terrorist.

If it wasn’t obvious from the way Biden hid in his basement while Trump attracted record crowds…

- or the way every motivated Democrat voter wanted Bernie..

- or the fact that Biden supposedly got 10 million more votes than Obama ever got…

- or the fact that people actually went to jail or even killed for protesting the stolen election…

- or the fact that 120% of registered voters mailed in ballots in key swing state Democrat strongholds and Republican poll watchers were blocked from observing the vote count - etc, etc., etc.

Isn’t it at least obvious now that the election was stolen?

These so-called journalists are going to hell if there is one.
They are supposed to be our watchdogs - exposing government corruption - exposing the truth.

Instead, they lie to protect the corruption.

By “they”, I mean the MSM and the social media trolls that come on platforms like FR and spread the same lies.


74 posted on 05/28/2023 8:40:16 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: Golden Eagle

That’s total BS.

The candidate’s job is to get the most votes and win - President Trump did that in 2020.

It’s not his job to enforce honest elections or to prove they were not honest - that’s the job of We the People - and we let him down.

We’ve been electing wimpy or corrupt representatives for decades - now all three branches of government are filled with crooks and weaklings.

Calling election fraud “irregularities” and then blaming it on the one man who has the courage to fight back - that’s really weak.


75 posted on 05/28/2023 8:53:45 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: Golden Eagle

So your position is that Trump lost because Rudy didn’t publish Hunter’s child porn?

(letting your side win “fair and square”?)


76 posted on 05/28/2023 8:56:57 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGA-AaA)
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To: Golden Eagle
The courts all told him, one after another, over and over, you can't contest an election until the election is decided, and you have actual damages that you can show which give you legal standing. Yes I know to the average layman that doesn't make sense, but that is the law.

And then afterwards, they said it was too late to do anything about it. Catch 22 from our rotten idiot courts.

Sure, I've seen a lot of stuff, already stated in this thread twice I have evidence of my own that's right there on my FR homepage and has been for 2.5 years now. But none of it came from Trump. He's not done a single thing to quantify and present anything himself, and more importantly, he clearly has no plan to do anything about it in the future either.

By "Trump" I assume you mean people working for him? I don't see Trump gathering up evidence. Even so, I would think Trump's people would just have to let others gather up the evidence because the scope of the evidence is beyond the ability of any small group of people. It has to come from people in each state where there were problems.

Doesn't sound legit to me. So what has Trump done about it? You do know that it is very important to start investigations quickly, while the trail of evidence is hot, not still be complaining two and a half years later while having done nothing.

That piece of information didn't come out until the Cyber Ninjas audited Maricopa County Arizona. How was Trump supposed to find out about it in time to do anything about it? This was the Arizona legislature authorizing the Cyber Ninjas to look at the bullsh*t from 2020 is how we found out this little tidbit.

I'm getting the impression that you just don't want Trump, and that is driving most of your thinking.

77 posted on 05/28/2023 9:00:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: enumerated

Trump solicited donations for “election security” in December 2020, and an amazing $250M came in that one month, more than he was getting while campaigning by far.

Yet he took the money and ran in January 2021, the day after January 6.

He’s responsible for that whether you want to give him a pass or not. Our elections are still broken and that money was spent on other things. Nor does he even have a plan on what to do next. Other than “out vote the cheating” that he calls for at rallies. Ridiculous on all counts.


78 posted on 05/28/2023 9:16:18 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: DiogenesLamp
And then afterwards, they said it was too late to do anything about it. Catch 22

Completely false, Trump didn’t lift a finger after January 6 when his loss became official, and he finally had legal standing to contest it. He took the $250M he had just collected supposedly for that very purpose and split.

It has to come from people in each state where there were problems.

Clearly, but $250M is an enormous sum that should have been more than adequate to set up shops like Soros has. Or hire people like True the vote, I bet their yearly budget is a fraction of that. He did nothing, and still doesn’t even have a plan other than “out vote the cheating” which is doomed to fail. Again.

How was Trump supposed to find out about it in time to do anything about it?

What has he done since then is the question everyone is avoiding. Because the answer is obviously nothing.

I'm getting the impression that you just don't want Trump, and that is driving most of your thinking.

I was a huge supporter of Trump for years here on FR, even prior to 2016. The reason why was because he told the hard truth and got things done. Now he doesn’t do jack and just runs his mouth. Check my tagline for recent examples.

79 posted on 05/28/2023 9:30:00 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: Golden Eagle

If you deny the 2020 election was stolen, or blame President Trump for it - you just aren’t seeing clearly.

I suspect you see things clearly enough, but for whatever reason, you want to discourage Trump support at every turn.


80 posted on 05/28/2023 9:53:08 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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