Thanks Islander7.
Posted on 09/17/2013 4:23:06 AM PDT by Islander7
A town dating back more than 2,000 years has been discovered on the northwest coast of the Sea of Galilee, in Israel's Ginosar valley.
The ancient town may be Dalmanutha (also spelled Dalmanoutha), described in the Gospel of Mark as the place Jesus sailed to after miraculously feeding 4,000 people by multiplying a few fish and loaves of bread, said Ken Dark, of the University of Reading in the U.K., whose team discovered the town during a field survey.
(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...
Excellent. Archeology proves the Bible again.
*ping of interest*
RE: described in the Gospel of Mark as the place Jesus sailed to after miraculously feeding 4,000 people by multiplying a few fish and loaves of bread
OK, which is it, 5,000 or 4,000?
“what difference does it make?” :-)
Two accounts. Don’t make me look it up. Might be two occasions.
RE: Two accounts. Don’t make me look it up. Might be two occasions.
Well, this article talks about the Gospel of Mark.
From the NIV (Mark 6:43-44):
“43 and the disciples picked up twelve basketfuls of broken pieces of bread and fish. 44 The number of the men who had eaten was five thousand.”
I wonder when the other occasion was?
The Gospel of Mark records both as separate instances. Mark 6 and Mark 8.
I remember a radio station in San Diego reporting that astronomers discovered a comet and predicted it would strike the earth in 100,000 years killing the planet and all inhabitants. A woman called in a panic saying she hadn’t been listening closely. When would the comet strike? The DJ responded with 100,000 years to which she replied, her panic subsided, “Thank God, I thought you said 10,000 years!” So I can see how accuracy is important.
FEEDING THE 4,000. Mark 8:1-10
MARK 8:1-10
8 During those days another large crowd gathered. Since they had nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples to him and said, 2 “I have compassion for these people; they have already been with me three days and have nothing to eat. 3 If I send them home hungry, they will collapse on the way, because some of them have come a long distance.”
4 His disciples answered, “But where in this remote place can anyone get enough bread to feed them?”
5 “How many loaves do you have?” Jesus asked.
“Seven,” they replied.
6 He told the crowd to sit down on the ground. When he had taken the seven loaves and given thanks, he broke them and gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people, and they did so. 7 They had a few small fish as well; he gave thanks for them also and told the disciples to distribute them. 8 The people ate and were satisfied. Afterward the disciples picked up seven basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. 9 About four thousand were present. After he had sent them away, 10 he got into the boat with his disciples and went to the region of Dalmanutha.
also in Mark 8: 18 Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? And don’t you remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?”
“Twelve,” they replied.
20 “And when I broke the seven loaves for the four thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?”
They answered, “Seven.”
21 He said to them, “Do you still not understand?”
If the archaeologists can find some bread crumbs, that could clinch the identification of the site as Dalmanutha.
Biblical-Era Town Discovered Along Sea of Galilee
http://www.livescience.com/39661-biblical-era-town-discovered-sea-of-galilee.html
What more is there to say? This stuff is nothing more than affirmation of Biblical history.
In high school, a Religion class was required, and the book we had as students combined religion and history. I’ve never forgotten that class, or the overall lesson I learned: One cannot separate geological history from theological history.
I wish I had that textbook today...
https://bible.org/seriespage/feeding-4000
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Contrasts Between the Feeding of the 5000 and the 4000. (Some think it is the same, but that is not possible. Matt and Mark record both.) |
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5000 |
4000 |
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at bethsaida |
decapolis |
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sat on the grass |
sit on ground (no grass mentioned) |
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Jesus wanted rest before |
Jesus traveling before - no mention of rest |
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afterward there is a storm |
no storm |
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multitude from nearby |
multitude from a long distance away |
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Jewish |
Gentiles |
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5000 fed |
4000 fed |
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with him 1 day |
been with him 3 days |
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5 loaves and 2 fish |
7 loaves and a few fish |
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Not enough money |
Can’t find enough |
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different word for basket (hand basket) |
(big basket) |
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remain: 12 basketsfull |
7 basketsfull (not tied to Israel’s number 12) |
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found in all gospels |
found only in Matt and Mark |
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Jesus mentions both : 5-12, Mk 8:20 |
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More at the link
additional:
Dalmanutha: Archaeologists May Have Found Biblical Town
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3068950/posts
Pretty cool! The more that is found, the more confident I am that folks who discount the Old Testament just refuse to accept history.
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